McDaniels Wants to Talk to Cutler Before Trade

WhidbeyBronco

I would take number….3, as well. And this is why.
Lets talk about this meeting that Josh wants to have with Jay, one-on-one. He said that he wants to speak with Jay one-on-one, before Denver will consider any other alternatives. Why would this happen if Denver does not plan on keeping Jay and solving this problem out? You got the entire media saying that Jay’s days in Denver are over. But are they really? Josh is obviously still trying to mend this. He would not ask Cutler to have another meeting with him, and ask him which team he would love to be traded to. He wants Jay as his QB, as well as the rest of Denver. And think about this:Is this meeting between Josh and Jay a forceful act of Bowlen? Bowlen has only made one statement on this situation to the media, so do you think that he told Josh that he better go have a one-on-one meeting with Jay, and make sure he gets it solved? Bowlen could have easily told Josh that he has to solve this with Jay or there will be punishments. You just never know….But what could very well make this true is that what else could this meeting possibly be about? And Jay is under contract for three more years. He knows that if he gets out of Denver, he will most likely go to Detroit, or Cleveland. And I would bet my left nut that he does not want to play for either of them. So, for what my opinion is worth, I think when Josh and Jay get this meeting, with no Bus Cook, Josh is going to tell Jay everything that he wants to hear. I really think now, its not an option. There are no deals that would get us a QB that has anywhere near the skill set of Jay. All the talk is Brad Quinn. But is he the answer? No. It took him a couple of years to finally get some starting time in over Derek Anderson….The one season wonder. And they only reason why Quinn got put in their last season, is because they would get money if he took 50% of the snaps that year, or something of that sort.
And Jay has stated that he will attend the mandatory stuff, as soon as that all starts. This next meeting between the coach And Jay will be the one that gets everything resolved. (knock onwood)

And Bowlen fired Shanahan because the lack of wins. He did not fire one of the best football minds to have another coach come in and wreck his team. He hired McDaniels to win football games, and take this team to levels it has not been to in a couple of years. How do they do this? By keeping Jay Cutler. They both know it. Jay knows it. Bowlen is not going to take draft picks for Jay, and start all over again. He wants to win, and wants to win now. Losing anymore is not an option. Everyone knows that the only way Denver truly takes all their potential to the max is by having Jay and Josh on the same page, connected at the hip, winnning games.

Gregg Boot

Tell me one quarter back out there that would be a realistic chance of us getting, that is better, or even as good as Cutler? Think about that, than you tell me. Ya the NFL is a business like everything else. In any business, you always keep your best employees, right? Well guess what. He is that employee that you definitly want to keep.

I have not ran a business, but I would say that the smart thing to do is to keep all of your good employee’s over your bad ones, correct? You would rather fire someone who does not, or can not, help your business out in the best of ways. And you want to keep the employees who you know will try their best and give you the results you want. Correct? And I’m sure that Jay Cutler gets filed under the type of worker that will give you results.

Joe; any employee who’s mouthing off to the brass is going to get his bell rung; your never above the law mi amigo. I say shut up and show me. I get tired of people talking all the time; if someone questions your skills then take it to the field. I’m no player in the NFL, but when I get challenged I don’t go Hollywood and cry foul; everyone gets dished. The best way to deal with adversity/character questioning is going out and getting it done consistently… period! i didn’t get to where I am in my career by calling out who wronged me; I brought it to them with results. the guys not a bad QB, but quit the TO act and get to the business of showing us your worthy.

And If McD care this much about Culter… Get you ass on an airplane to Nashville STAT. That in itself would mean something to Cutler.

Nicole
Thank you! I really think this will all get settled out. I still have a good feeling that Jay Cutler will be in a Denver Bronco uniform next season.

McD lied… My question is so what? Every coach lies , players need to be lied to and be told how great they are when in reality their marginal. During Free Agency is when teams lie the most to potential signee’s. Please get over this crap that “OMG he lied , OMG OMG OMG ” Thats the only thing that in this situation is childish.

I like McD , I like his attitude. I dont prefer Cutler’s pouting but thats just me. Funny Cutler wasn’t that upset when Dre Bly was let go, Winborn, or Webster. Considering he plays for his “teammates” that was strange.

McD is a badass he will get this fixed, with or without Cutler.

Bus Cook’s in Buffalo, though its likely for Scheffler.

If its true that McD doesnt want draft picks for Jay than i think it will be hard for any team to offer enough. The lions could offer the #1 overall but then the broncos would have to spend 30mil guarantee on an unproven rookie. Might as well give Jay that money. Assuming McD even wants Brady Quinn the browns could offer him and rogers but i have heard that cleveland would take a huge cap hit. If this trade happens it will probably take 3 teams to get it done. If the Roy Williams trade got the lions a 1st, 3rd, and 6th than i think Cutler would be worth more than that. Cutler is a franchise QB and if McD is not interested in draft picks its gonna be hard for a team to trade enough for Cutler’s services. Cleveland is the only team that could offer a QB replacement so i think they will be the only serious suitors. But i still think it will cost Cleveland more than they would be willing to spend. i.e. Quinn, 5th pick, late rd pick. If a team offers up enough it would be a monster deal… the more i think about it… there is a good chance Cutler stays in denver. A lot of teams want Cutler but few could actually afford him.

@nicole: i’m with you that we only got one side from mcd (and probably a distorted story from cook and “sources”). but i do believe as you say, mcd seems kinda surprised by how things are blowing up, which goes back to him not understanding the sensitivity and not handling things correctly from the start. i disagree with you about mcd and bowlen being able to talk to cutler if they really wanted to: i don’t think it’s a good option for the coach or bowlen to be running to TN to bow at cutler’s feet. that sends the wrong message to the team. if mcd and bowlen are leaving messages for cutler that he’s not returning (which is believable considering cutler’s consistent history of petulant behavior), then there’s nothing more the front office can do other than manage the media/fans (which they are mostly choosing not to do).

i think it’s telling to step back and think about who can fix this quickly. cutler can fix it by agreeing to talk to his bosses and accepting the reality of NFL business practices, but he won’t. his bosses can fix it by kissing cutler’s butt, but they won’t. which of the two sides is being unreasonable?

i don’t see mcd wanting to replace one hard-working but emotional gunslinger (cutler) with a slacker gunslinger (romo). i do like the thought of both texas teams being subsumed by broncos.

what’s crazy to me is why kc wouldn’t offer up cassell plus something for cutler. they could add a lot to the package and still end up way ahead given what they paid for cassell (some portion of a 2nd rounder).

i’m still hoping for some package deal for quinn/rogers. cutler is >> quinn for sure, and i’d rather have cutler sans this mess, but quinn is smart, hardworking, and has a personality and history that could handle the denver scrutiny.

If it is all about the money than why dont the broncos re-do Cutler’s contract. Give him a little extra booty for this season and if he makes the pro bowl again this upcoming year then he gets the big bucks this time next year. If cutler makes the pro bowl again and has a similar season i think he is deserving of a top 5 QB contract. He has the incentive for this year and if he performs well the money will be waiting for him in 2010. Cutler’s numbers should be huge in McD’s system and by this time next year we could have a 26 yr old 2 time pro bowler with a long term deal.

has any one noticed since shannahan left and McDaniels came the broncos organization has gone crazy.this never would have happened if shannahan wasn’t fired.i decided not to give up on the broncos when shannahan left ,but now if Cutler leaves i just might.

Dee?!!
“(dee) { 03.17.09 at Tue Mar 17 08:44 })

McD lied… My question is so what? Every coach lies , players need to be lied to and be told how great they are when in reality their marginal. During Free Agency is when teams lie the most to potential signee’s. Please get over this crap that “OMG he lied , OMG OMG OMG ” Thats the only thing that in this situation is childish.”

This is the vilest, most idiotic post from you yet! What? Utter nonsense! OMG! you’re losing your mind. “Jay’s pouting” (in what way is he pouting?) is worse than the lying coaches “need to do”?
Did you forget your pill this morning Dee?
Why can’t he just go ahead and lie to Jay and say HE’S good & we want him? That would fix everything. Oh wait, that wouldn’t even BE a lie!!! But he says it to tired cast-off free agents… What’s he really trying to do? antagonize Jay like Jay said?
You make the point that Mcd’s F$cking up! He doesn’t even bother doing his job with Cutler by lying to him! what a joke you haters are.

@nicole: you make a compelling argument about sucking it up and doing what it takes to win, and i agree with you that bowlen needs to step it up. however, i think both of us would agree that your strategy only works when wielded properly. al davis is the easy example of what happens when an owner falls in love with players and meddles in football operations, but even jones provides a great example of crippling a franchise by undermining the coach: last year with TO and pacman?

at the end of the day, we also have to consider that this isn’t just a win-at-all-costs business. IMHO alienating the fan base and creating ill will with a dysfunctional organization don’t get wiped clean with a super bowl win. i loved the shanahan years even with the dearth of success in the later years, because the broncos were a class organization that was always competitive. you can’t completely avoid questionable-character moments, like the handling of plummer, or the failed crazy projects like clarett, but generally the broncos under bowlen/shanahan were a team you could be proud of. for that reason, i do blame mcd for initiating the cutler situation, but i blame cutler more for being a petulant child and refusing to cure the conflict, when really he’s the only one at this point that can cure it, short of bowlen/mcd upending the chain of command to cater to a star.

SSC,
great post once again. Unfortunately, I must disagree a little more. This is a business of winning at all costs-because it generates revenue. Jerry Jones will try anything once, but he has the guts to correct it. He is clearing the roster for Shanahan to come and choose his own people. Yes, Cutler may seem a little immature, but you know what: Aikman whined too! He said what he felt on t.v. and that was it. He called out players and we ate it up! Jones isn’t Al Davis, he’ll never let the Cowboys fall into financial shambles, but you’re in the process of plying to win and if that means using the jet…so be it. Don’t let this guy leave, make both of them suck it up and get on with it because once Cutler starts playing, the juices will flow and things will happen. Remeber: Aikman and Johnson didn’t care for each other;in fact, Johnson told him “I’m your coach, not your friend.” But he also understood that Aikman was his ticket to where he wanted to go and he would later on say that he respected Troy and called him a legend. Johnson had learned the value of bending, but not breaking and along the way he and Aikman became friends. Don’t give this guy to another team, let them have at it and in the end you’ll have your very own version of the BIG3 (cutler,marshall, and mcdaniels). CALL CUTLER’S BLUFF AND GET HIM TO WORK!

Send Cutler to Detroit (if they’ll have him) and take that #1 pick off their hands. Let the little baby learn the hard way how good of a situation he was in when he puts ice packs on his kidneys every Monday morning next fall!… Welcome to Mile High Mr. Stafford!