John Elway on Peyton Manning workout: “A productive visit”

4years 93million get it over with, give him what he wants & be done with it.

Why don’t we just sign Flynn for less total money than Manning wants upfront and move on with actually building our team for the future. Bring in Stephen McGee too. There is a great 3 way QB competition going into preseason.

Manning threw for the 49ers earlier this week 
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7696945/san-francisco-49ers-worked-peyton-manning-week-sources-say

Because with Manning we have been assured in not so many words, to be the winners of the next 2-3 superbowls. Fox/Elway couldn’t make it any clearer that a pocket general is all they need to win the superbowl.
They’re making it happen as we watch… 

 I am starting to think the same thing Trog.  I wanted PM but after all this time, and factoring in the $$, it does seem the Broncos could arrange decent QB competition for this year.  Use the $ elsewhere. 

Not taking sides, but, can we really trust Elway? Wow, I just comprehended what I just typed, and I’m totally taken aback that I wrote it, but can we trust him?

How honest has he been in anything he’s said in regards to the QB position? He’s done nothing but offer up smoke and mirrors since this time last year, and apparently, there is no end in sight. Will signing Manning finally bring much needed HONESTY from our most beloved citizen? Will not landing Manning bring even more smoke and mirrors? Man, I want this over with. This must be what people feel like when they suspect their spouse of cheating on them. The emotional turmoil that I’m sure we are all feeling is gut wrenching and making me age far too rapidly.

It’s pretty simple really; either Manning wants to win a Superbowl, or he wants to land 1 last gigantic payday. There is no in between.

The 49ers obviously give him the best chance of winning, and that isn’t up for debate. They were 2 fumbled punts away from the Superbowl with Alex Smith as QB. Just imagine how easy they’d make it with Peyton Manning as their QB! The 49ers are the “no brainer” choice if winning was the priority for Peyton.

If money is his ultimate motivation for not retiring and sliding easily into a front office job with the Colts, or TV Personality, then the Titans are the “no brainer” choice for him. Bud Adams has made it perfectly clear that he won’t be outbid, not only in cash, but in incentives. If he picks the Titans, then he has “sold out” to the almighty dollar, which he doesn’t even need. It would be a pure greed move on his part.

Where do the Broncos fall in this song and dance? Fortunately, or UnFortunately, (depending on what side of the fence you reside), the Broncos are the “odd man out.” Now that the 49ers are in play, we no longer give him the best chance to win, so that eliminates us from that aspect of his decision. Bowlen also isn’t a billionaire oil tycoon, with all the cash in the world as well as team ownership to offer, so that also eliminates us from that aspect of his decision. This leaves us squarely in “limbo” when it comes to this courtship. What does the middle offer? Hell, I don’t know… maybe he has Tuberculosis like Doc Holiday and wants a dry climate. However, we offer neither a) the best chance to win, or b) the most money/incentives. Because of this, we effectively have in this poster’s opinion, zero chance of signing him. But hey, at least Elway and the gang had a fun trip to North Carolina. Hopefully they ate some seafood while out there so their trip wasn’t completely useless and a huge waste of jet fuel.

Maybe maybe not. But compared to Manning he is cheap competition while the rest of the team gets built.

We may however be willing to offer the most upfront money. I don’t think because of the Titans cap space they can beat us out upfront.

Because he won so many SB’s in Indy?

True. I have 1 more semester till I get my degree in accounting, so I’m sure he has his advisers telling him all about the time value of money. lol. So who knows. Until something is signed, anything is possible.

Are you being serious?  For all your talk about money you seem to forget that playing pro football is a job and every executive looks to make the team better.  If it makes you feel better to call that lying or being dishonest feel free to continue and be mocked.
Bud “don’t call me Al Davis” Adams can make whatever statement he wants about not being outbid but he still has the same constraints as every other owner, that thing called the salary cap.  Any talk of team ownership is pointless as well.  Taking the Tuxedos offer does not give Manning any easier road to the front office or TV than taking any other offer.  Saying otherwise is foolish.  Then there are the 69’ers with a system oriented coach.  Is Manning really going to sign with a team whose head coach has a tight fisted grip on offensive play calling?  
Whatever kool-aid it is you’re drinking, lay off for a long while.

Hey Peyton,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1OXe6r9uhgc#t=25s

 You seem to be the only one saying that I’m way off base. What part of anything I wrote is completely wrong? We can debate it, which I’m more than happy to do. Apparently Manning is perfectly fine working under Harbaugh, otherwise, he wouldn’t have worked out for him, let alone worked out for him first.

As for Bud Adams, he has the cash, which is what Bowlen doesn’t have. You see, (and you shouldn’t take on an accounting major with these things), there is a difference between cap space and cash. We have $50 of cap room, but that doesn’t mean we have $50 cash. When these signing bonuses, workout bonuses, still-on-the-team bonuses, other expenses like food, jet fuel, travel, etc… as well as when the weekly checks come due, THAT is where the cash aspect comes in. If Bowlen only has about $24 million in CASH, that’s all he can spend in guaranteed portions of contracts, or else the check he writes will bounce.

So you sir, are completely wrong when you say that Bud Adams can’t out bid us, because he can. I don’t know the bylaws of the NFL and the CBA, but I’m sure there can be some sort of future contract that Manning can sign that says when he’s done playing football, he will be offered stock or something in the team.

Again, if you want to debate about any of this stuff, I’m totally game. If you want to point out a single thing I said that is completely off base, please do, but make sure you are prepared to be called on whatever you are challenging. Until then, feel free to keep your head in the sand.
Good Day Sir….

I SAID GOOD DAY!!!!

You have got to be from another planet!  Manning not happy with publicity?  Where have you been the last 10 years+?  He is eating this up.  And not done yet!

 I’m starting to believe you. I think if he was, it would have happened already. Is he dragging his feet because he never was serious about the Broncos and was hoping that someone else would eventually appear? To which the 49ers did?

I’d be very happy with Flynn. I think Miami is going to make their big push for him over the weekend. We’ll lose out on the possibility of Flynn in a Denver uniform because Peyton wont be ready to pick a team until next Friday…even though reports are that it will be early next week. I’m not going to be holding my breath.

Well, he told the teams that he is looking at Monday or Tuesday to decide.

Every player is one hit away from ending their career.

 Contracts are broken every day by owners (and players).  What value does a lifetime contract have if they opt out of it before the lifetime is up?  Bud Adams has already given a lifetime contract before and that guy was only with the team for a year and a half before he was fired.

For an accounting major your not very bright on the subject.  You’ve grossly and incorrectly over-simplified payroll and the salary cap.  
You are totally wrong when you make the absurd claim that Manning is greedy and he has earned enough money so he should play for free.  Everything you’ve claimed is flat out wrong, period.
If you do not know the rules regarding pay in the NFL and the CBA you cannot make the claim that Adams can outbid anyone.  That has to be the dumbest response I have ever seen.  “I don’t know the rules but Bud Adams has more cash”, “I am sure there is something Manning can sign”.
Really?  Because Manning worked out for the 49’ers means he would gladly play for Harbaugh?  A simpleton my buy into that.  All that really means is that Manning was willing to meet with the 49’ers.  Even if the 49’ers had your precious Bud Adams money it does not mean he would happily sign with them. 
You continue to invent whatever fits into some moronic theory that makes you feel good.  Then you accuse anyone who disagrees with you of burying their head in the sand.
Here is a news flash that will obviously surprise you.  No team is entitled to the services of Peyton Manning.  Just because Manning has not made a decision does not mean that he is greedy or that he is creating a media circus because he wants to be the center of attention.  Saying so is what stupid ignorant people do.  There are other factors involved besides money.  Yet here you are dumbing things down to the only concept you are capable of grasping.  
What exactly are you going to call me on junior?  I you going to pull out the 5th grade “I don’t know but I’m sure that” again?  You’re not smart enough to see the non-logic but you’ll happily type away just to show everyone how smart you think you are.
Is being an accounting major supposed to impress me somehow?  If that is the game you want to play I’ll gladly toss out my 2 chemistry degrees and my math degree.  Since you insist on playing penis envy I toss in 5 years Marine Corps.  That would be 5 years Marine Corps infantry.

Does anyone know how are meeting with Jameel McClain went?! Cause I really want that guy!

Brilliant observation jd but not every player starts the season at the QB position at age 35, having sat out one year due to 2 neck surgeries combined with 2 prior making a total of 4. 

IMO I think Mr. Elway would have been better off staying mum. Don’t get me wrong, I love Elway but he needs to grow into his new role.  He hasn’t been kind to his current QB via twitter and other comments and I don’t think he has a lot of credibility in this situation either.  I don’t see why he felt the need to say anything about the situation.  Learn from SF. 

Jd, I really like you even though your points are alomst always wrong. But concerning your latest comments above, you can’t possibly be that naive. Have you followed Manning at all during his career.  He is a marketing Machine the like of which few in the NFL can aspire to equal.  He (or anyone else for that matter in this situation) has to create maximum interest to drive up $$.   Econ 101. In his case, yes, another ring is probably a motivating factor but he is still going to get paid for attempting to win it.  AND he is going to do it on his terms because he is PM.  No goofy theme.  That’s who is.  And he isn’t going to do something totally different at this point in his career like playing on grass, outdoors for half of his games where it can snow and temperatures routinely fall below freezing AND have to contend with sharing headlines at times with another hall of fame QB in a town OWNED by Elway. That last point is also learned in marketing 101.  Manning is not going to be number 2 to anyone.

haha! I am starting to think that he is Peyton’s wife because he sure knows exactly what he is thinking!