Broncos’ Bowlen, Ellis won’t guarantee McDaniels in 2011

Agreed Anthony… I dont understand what logic everyone is using to think firing McD will automatically make the team better. If we fire him now we're rebuilding for another 2-3 years under a new regime… and these same writers will bury Bowlen for firing him.

All McD is trying to do is win a mother f***ing game! Let's support our coach!

Why don't you just say that he said Mr Bowlen is moving the team to Belgium, even though it wasn't mentioned in the interview.
Nothing like reading into what a 'urinalist' says in a bye-week article.

How about we put a little of this on Orton instead of McDaniels…. I don't know I dig McDaniels' I think he is good for the team and I think if Kyle Orton would pull his head out of his butt, we might make some good plays. Pick up the D and get to rockin' that football down the field. OMG, please let us beat the chiefs! Im from KC but am a DB fan!

muahahahaha

Do you actually listen when he says “It all starts with me” after a loss?

Mr. Ellis, since you appear to be listening, understand that not all of what’s wrong with the organization is with the coaches and players. Here are a few suggestions that are all about going back to our roots.

Get rid of “Invesco” at the end of the deal and go back to Mile High Stadium… period.

Go to the ORANGE jerseys at home… permanently.

Make every Sunday ‘Orange Sunday’.

Create the best tailgating environment possible.

Crazy as it sounds, bring back the 21 century version of the Broncos Band.

Stop the ‘in-com-plete’ chant and have a fan contest to create the next tradition.

$2 buck hot dogs when the Broncos are ahead at half time (just thought I’d throw that in)

Provide a unique game experience for those in attendance that you can’t get anywhere else. Thinking of something similar to what NASCAR does with the headsets.

If Mr. B needs investors, trade the team publically, many of us would buy stock!

Sincerely

LLBF (life long broncos fans)

Not a big fan or McD and Orton sucks, but McD has drafted very well. Expecially on Def which was Shanny's achilles heel.

Like the 1st commenter said, I think this is Klis trying to stir the pot. I'm sure that he didn't ask Ellis if McDaniels is safe next year directly. It was probably along these lines of questioning “If the Broncos lose all of their games in the same fashion that they lost the Raiders game, will coach McDaniels come back next year as the head coach of the Denver Broncos?” to which, I'm sure Ellis responded something like this “I don't see us losing like that every week, but if we lost 59-14 for the next 8 straight weeks, then nobody's job including mine will be safe.”
To which, Klis will absolutely spin it to mean that McDaniels' job isn't safe. Why wouldn't he? Doom and Gloom sell just as good as Tits and Ass.

In this case however 59-14 is like stairing down the pipe at Rosie Odonnell and that don't sell, which is why McD's job should be question.

And I apologized for the visual.

Yes we are. I'm a season ticket holder (4 seats),and stadium parking, so it costs me thousands of dollars to watch us lose every year at home, but again, we're in this together. You'll never hear me say that I'm gonna turn in my tickets cause we suck. NEVER!!! I love your $2 hotdog idea. It will never fly, cause that would mean that they would almost have to lower rent to the shops cause profits would be less, but still, it's a great idea.
What I would do however, is do like Kansas City does with their tailgating… Just make it 1 huge single level lot. That way you aren't DIVIDED, you are all TOGETHER, which builds UNITY…. what a novel concept!

McDaniels isn't the GM. Brian Xanders is the GM.
The common misconception that drives me insane is that McDaniels is also the GM. Just because Shanahan was the “only voice” of the Broncos for 15 years doesn't mean that McDaniels is too. People lump them together in that regard, and it's just not fair. McDaniels sees players he likes and runs it by Xanders. If Xanders agrees that we should get them, he gets them. If they disagree, they work closely together and talk about why 1 thinks that player is a good fit and the other isn't. At that point, they either come to the conclusion that we should get said player, or not. You only hear about the players we get, you never hear about the players we don't get. For all we know, McDaniels wanted Merriman, but Xanders didn't. We will never know that. Same for Moss, same for dozens of other players.
You will only hear about the players they agreed upon, not the ones that they didn't agree upon, and thus are not on this team.
That's how Coach/GM should work. They should be unified and on the same page. If they conflict about everything, then we'd get nowhere and not have nearly the talent that we have.

Unless you personally sat in the room for any of these discussions you are throwing 100% opinion on the matter. Most people base their opinion that McD is the one running the show on FACT that Xanders had ZERO personal experience before being made GM. He was a contract man and the Goodmans made all personal decisions. What you described is how most GM relationships do work, but when you take a rookie gm who has never done anything remotely close to what is current responsibilities are, chances are also remote that he is running the show right now. When you also consider that Bowlen stated the Goodmans will remain as the gm when he hired McD, only to turn around and let them go it is pretty clear who is running the show. Another bit of evidence that McD had run-ins with Cutler, Marshall, Shefler and they all got shipped out. Xanders did not step in and say these are good players we want on our team you need to work out your differences and do your job and coach them up. Compare that to when Reeves had a run-in with Elway and Reeves got shipped out. None of us know how the relationship works but if you read between the lines it is pretty obvious.

Shall I break apart what you just said piece by piece? I think that will be the best way…
** you said**”Unless you personally sat in the room for any of these discussions you are throwing 100% opinion on the matter.”
*I say* This is true, but I am going on factual reports/interviews/press releases/conferences where it has been said that Xanders is the GM, McDaniels is the coach, and that they both work together to decide which players to be taken, and that they both have to agree on the players before they pursue them. This is 100% fact. There is no room for questioning it. Bowlen has said it, McDaniels has said it, Xanders has said it, and their coordinators/coaches have said it. You sir, are wrong.

**you said** “Most people base their opinion that McD is the one running the show on FACT that Xanders had ZERO personal experience before being made GM.” and also “What you described is how most GM relationships do work, but when you take a rookie gm who has never done anything remotely close to what is current responsibilities are, chances are also remote that he is running the show right now.”
*I say* This is true, but McDaniels also has zero experience being the head coach. So what makes you think that a zero experience GM isn't the GM cause he has no experience, but a zero experience Head Coach is not only the HC but also the GM? That makes less than no sense. You sir, just proved yourself to be a pure hate, with zero facts or even logical opinions to back up your hate.

**you said** “When you also consider that Bowlen stated the Goodmans will remain as the gm when he hired McD, only to turn around and let them go it is pretty clear who is running the show.”
*I say* You are correct. That means that Bowlen is running the show. He's the owner. That's his right. Hiring a GM is the owners job, and Bowlen decided to scrap the Goodmans and hire Xanders. It's his right, it's his responsibility. McDaniels didn't hire Xanders. Hell, McDaniels didn't really even know who Xanders was. It was 100% Bowlen doing that, and he did it so that there was a system of checks and balances between HC and GM. Bravo Bowlen, Bravo. You did good, cause I think Xanders has a great eye for talent.

**you said** “McD had run-ins with Cutler, Marshall, Shefler and they all got shipped out. Xanders did not step in and say these are good players we want on our team you need to work out your differences and do your job and coach them up.”
*I say* Bowlen told Xanders to trade Cutler. He didn't tell McDaniels to trade Cutler. McDaniels didn't tell Xanders or Bowlen to trade Cutler. BOWLEN SAID TO TRADE HIM!. Also, Cutler has proven to be worse than Orton, even though I think Cutler has more talent. Marshall bitched his way out of here, but guess what? I'll take Lloyd over Marshall any day of the week. I'll also take Thomas over Marshall any day of the week too. Guess Xanders knew what he was doing when he made Marshall expendable. Xanders, McDaniels, and Bowlen saw the talent in Lloyd, and then they drafted Thomas. Those were 2 brilliant moves, of which I don't think anyone can disagree with. I should say anyone with half a brain and at least 2nd grade football intelligence. Guess that doesn't apply to you though. Scheffler quit on the team. He flat out quit. The players in the locker room were pissed and didn't want him on the team. Coach wanted him gone, but again, the GM had final say, and he agreed, so off he went. This was not a McDaniels only move, as stated in many, many articles.
**you said** “Compare that to when Reeves had a run-in with Elway and Reeves got shipped out. None of us know how the relationship works but if you read between the lines it is pretty obvious.”
*I say* Reeves wasted a high 1st round pick on Tommy Maddox in the PRIME OF ELWAY'S CAREER! That is an all time bonehead move. You can't compare Elway to Cutler to say that McDaniels did the same thing. You just can't. Cutler has proven to be exactly 2 things… Turnover prone, and millionaire talent with a 2cent brain (ala Jeff George). Elway had already single handedly carried this team to 3 super bowls. Cutler has done nothing. So when Reeves not only wasted Elway's talent with his play calling, but also blew a 1st round pick to draft a QB to get rid of Elway, that naturally caused Bowlen to intervene. That would be like the Bulls trading Jordan the year before he started winning championships for Tony Starks. lol. That type of bonehead move can not, and should not ever be forgiven. Don't you even dare bring up Elway's name in any conversation regarding Cutler; and only bring up his name with McDaniels when you use it in the context that him and McDaniels are friends and he gives the coach input and attends practices/training camp because McDaniels has told him that he wants him involved with the team. KUDOS to McDaniels for recognizing that Elway may be retired, but he's still important to the Broncos.

Overall, I say that you are full of garbage, but I'm sure that everyone besides you that read your post already knows that. Good day sir!

good good stuff.not going to get on mcdummy today that cat gets me going.but i'am going to get of subject a little bit.do anyone think that it would be good for the broncos to get a few ex players who are loyal not just to the broncos organization but the city of denver.not to be a head coach but example. stink ( mark s ) for o line coach. al wilson lb coach also maybe tom j. terrel d running back coach.something to get the mojo back that ( broncos way of life ) I don't know just a thought i wanted to share. see what my fellow mile high people think.as always keep it real. this is broncos country!!!!!

If there was anything to this I think Klis would have printed what he asked in regards to McD being back next year and Ellis' actual response.

There's nothing new on it in the article today, either. Klis is trying to make some noise, I think.

We are in for another 2 to 3 years anyways. You really think McDaniels is going to turn this ship around next year? Perhaps, but not likely. Now imagine Champ Bailey is gone and/or Brian Dawkins. And toss in a green quarterback. I think the Broncos have seen their shadow and we got at least 2 more years. Hope I'm wrong, but I know where I would place my money.

Hey this team was headed in the wrong direction long before McD came in, it seems to me…just look at what happened in the bills game with Cutler in 2008 with an “easy” shot to get in the playoffs at home. If we hit some high seas turning the ship around, why would you throw the captain overboard?

Oye vey.

“I've tracked Kyle's career from high school,” Really? You need to get yourself a girl mate. McD has two drafts…..We drafted two lineman who are starting…..

And Pro Bowl cry baby -Rivers has never played in Den.

Damn! I'm gonna have NIGHTMARES!

I'll drink to that.

Hell, Costco has been selling a hot dog and a Coke for $1.50 for the last ten years… Com' on step Mr Ellis up you can spring for a $2 dog at half time.

haha, Brilliant!
I at most buy 1 nachos at the game, cause I just don't want to spend the ridiculous money that they charge. If they were to lower prices, then I'd spend way more money than I actually do, cause I'll actually feel like I'm getting something for my money.

Xanders is not the traditional GM, like Scott Pioli(sp?) in KC. He was hired AFTER McDaniels. I want a coach who coaches, I do not want the coach running the entire organization.

All we can do now is look at the puddle of crap the broncos are in and how to turn it around. Great teams are defined by their ability to dominate in the treches. Champ Baily Knowshown Moreno and Kyle Orton are very talented, but the Broncos will never win untile they shore up the lines with talent. Last offseason Casey Weigmann and Ben Hamilton departed last year leaving the broncos with serious holes and Mcdaniels did nothing to fix this problem and now the brocos average 4.3 inches per carry… Big Suprise! This season was never gonna end in playoffs, even with a healthy Dumervil. Mcdaniels pulled a Shanahan, but with the o line instead of the d line.

Hillis goes for 184 yards rushing today. McD should be fired that alone!!