McDaniels Can Send Marshall, and the Broncos, a Message

so much anger

ok, i back mcdaniels until we play a game. mcdaniels we can only put our full trust in, until we actually see him coach a game. then its open season on him. that’s just my opinion on mcdaniels. remember guys, shanahan was a crappy g.m in situations too and he stayed here 14 years!

as for this, i totally agree kyle. i especially like what you said about the message he was sending. when you work for a business and you want a raise, you work your hardest and show more effort, not do the exact opposite. the nfl is a business isn’t it?

show professionalism and act like a man and you will get what you want. plain and simple.

guys, i’m just saying, keep it a football conversation not a bashing kerry conversation. there really is no point of it. he is going to go on with his “antagonistic” opinions (the light way of describing them) no matter what we all say or do.

I’ve been reading this blog long enough to know not to ever argue with Kerry haha!

But any way, I completely agree with you Kyle, I really hope McDaniels learned from his mistakes with Cutler and will sort everything out with this whole B Marsh mess. Losing B Marsh could definitely ruin our season, I couldn’t really see any trades being worth while for us.

Whatever happens with B-Marsh, I just hope that the zany off-season is a once-in-a-decade occurrence. I can’t stand that we have had a bigger soap opera than the hated Raiders these past few months.

Trade Kerry for cash!!!

kerry, and all other dudes, this is a football site, try 2 keep your opinions of politics, faith, and other stuff out of it ok
and watch the profanity!

Anthony, good points! Doubt he’ll answer you, though.

Joe H……I suggest we start at $1.
We can always work our way down. :)

I wish icould fire the idiots that got rid of Cutler and fixing to get rid of Broandon.What a joke i dont belive whats going on.Someone pinch me.Wake me up from this nightmare.

STRIKE,STRIKE,STRIKE.Its not the Denver Broncos no more.Its the Mc Bolen team noe,and it realy sucks.Move over Lions here come the Denver Mc. Bolens team.

Anthony,

You’re probably right, Marshall would have most likely asked for a new contract no matter what, weather it be McD, Shanny, or someone else as coach. But reason #1 could and most likely be blamed on McDaniels. If Shanny was here Cutler would still be the QB. Same would go if any of the other candidates were hired. I do think McDaniels could be to blame for Marshall seeking a trade though. It’s all speculative at this point but maybe, Marshall sees a sinking ship with some of the mistakes McDaniels has made in his first few months and thats not my opinion, even Bowlen admits hes made mistakes. I just think it’s a little easier to ask for a trade when the coach is a 33 year old inexperienced, first time Head Coach than if it was a tenured SB winning coach like Shanny. I do think if McDaniels really wants Marshall then he’ll stay, if he doesn’t then he’s gone.

Even though this will never happen, I say the Broncos trade Marshall for a 1st and a 3rd next year. I realize that he’s worth more than that, but the Broncos would then have 2 first round picks (again) and they can use one of them to draft a Heisman Trophy winner (Tebow or Bradford) or candidate (McCoy) and build this team the way it’s supposed to be built. They drafted a strong, powerful running back this year. They picked up some speed in the secondary, they’ve locked up their center and left tackle, and they’ll have a year of the 3-4 defense under their belts. Not to mention that McDaniels will have a year to plan for the QB of the future.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d810e4d5c/Broncos-report

The broncos need Brandon period. If we lose him 5-11 is as good as it gets. And we won’t even have that top 10 draft pick. Man, tough times in Denverland.

I’d let him sit, with all the cases he’s catching he won’t be able to afford to sit out much long.

As for Kerry, I’ve kinda become ammune to the negitivity, it use to be funny, now its just redundant, its hard to believe he’s actually a fan sometimes considering how much of the Broncos players/staff he hates. Nothing personal Kerry, its just the vibe you project.

What a second. What’s wrong with being 30+?

By the time you guys get to that age you’ll hopefully learn to ignore all the naysayers and complainers, and that engaging with them is a waste of time (although sometimes entertaining).

The naysayers and complainers will always be there in any situation that has risk or gray areas. Just human nature.

Guys kerry is a TROLL, do not feed the trolls.

Those who say that Jay and Brandon are the same situation for Josh are completely wrong. Jay (a QB) said he would not play for Josh. An unhappy starting QB is the worst. Even if he sits, he would be the biggest distraction. Denver had two courses ONLY, suspend or trade Jay. Bowlen made the right decision.
Brandon has NO leverage, plus WR’s are much easier to develop then QB’s. And Wiegmann learned also.

I love when everyone blames the coach for all these problems. Like the organization (Bowlen, Xanders, Ellis) are not going to be involved with the ‘what do we do’ discussion? DA I DON’T THINK SO.

Orton needs Marshall. Orton doesn’t possess the strongest arm in the world so he needs a big receiver who can catch short passes and turn them into big gains. Obviously I hope Marshall would learn to secure the ball but you have to admit the guy has nutty skillz once the ball is in his hands. It’s amazing how hard that guy is to bring down.

Nice points Dan,

I know all too well the dangers of the salary cap. My madden 09 franchise Broncos teams was ruined due to my lavish salary cap spending on high priced free agents who I later had to cut/trade due to lack of productivity.

I did win 3 superbowls in a 5 year span though, until I had to totally rebuild. =D

This team is going to have to spend money sometime.

Ask the Steelers, Giants, Colts, and Patriots how “star” receivers help get them and win a Super Bowl. Don’t take this comment out of context either. I’m not saying BMarsh is going to lead us to the Super Bowl but Super Bowl teams have stars at every postion. How many WR’s will it take to find his replacement. I don’t want to go through bums like Patrick Jeffers, Marcus Nash, Chris Cole, Chad Plummer, Travis McGriff, Leroy Fields, Muneer Moore, Kevin Kasper, Ashley Lelie, Herb Haygood, Adrian Madise, Triandos Luke, Darius Watts, Domenik Hixon. And those are just the WR picks back to 96′ You can go back farther. Shanny struck gold with his picks of Marshall and Royal and I was hoping to see them team up for years the way Rod Smith and Eddie Mc did.

MeOMy —

Since you asked, I’ll tell you why I’m down on the Broncos. n order of importance IMO (notice McD didn’t make the top 3)

(1) Schedule. The schedule is killer after week 4. It is entirely possible we could be looking at 4-5 losing game streak in October and November. The ONLY team we play after week 4 ’til Turkey Day that hasn’t been either a SB winner or a playoff team in the past two years is Washington and that’s a road game. I’d argue that our schedule is actually much worse than the Steeler’s schedule in 2008 and we have much less talent than the 2008 Steelers. The schedule is a huge problem.

(2) Moving to a 3-4 defense without a well-defined player for NT. In a 3-4, the NT is just as important as the LT and QB on offense. If you watched the Chargers last year, their NT struggled. Much was made of Merriman, but the problems started at the NT position. Without a good NT, a 3-4 scheme is VERY soft up the middle and the LB can’t get to the QB. We play in a division with outstanding talent at the RB position even on a crappy teams like the Raiders. If we are soft up the middle……whooo boy….did you watch the Packers last year?

(3) SD offense made a big leap last year on offense without their best player. I. Hate. Rivers. I personally will do a dance if he is ever permanently carted off the field after a wicked hit, but I will give him this: He carried the offense last year with little or no help from LT. He should have gone to the Pro-Bowl. Too bad the voting ended after Week 11 (or is it 12 not sure). Anyway, the Chargers have been a one-man show with an excellent defense. If Rivers continues to put up numbers like he did last year, they are going to run away with the division title by November. In the AFC, you have to win your division. The competition is too tough to count on a wild card spot, just ask the 11-5 Patriots. If Rivers has hit his stride and the front office in SD continues to select excellent/good defensive players, it will be very difficult for the Broncos to challenge SD in the next 2-3 years (barring some freak injury).

(4) Moving to a 3-4 defense with an average LB core. I’ gonna disagree with you here when it comes to the LBs in Denver. DJ needs to be on the outside; he’s just not mentally quick enough to be a middle LB. The guy we brought in for middle LB has been with the Browns his entire career and hasn’t exactly lit-up the league. In fact I saw one profile on him that said he was only a 2-down kind of LB since he was so slow. Not what we need. I believe the root cause of the defense disaster last year actually started 3 seasons ago when Shanny neglected to draft good LBs and started plugging in walk-on FA into the LB positions. We had an excellent core during the late 90’s and pretty good 2000-2004, then it just started falling apart and the rest of the defense went with it.

(4) New Coach. New Schemes on both sides of the ball. Even if McD had not dumped Cutler, the NE offense is complicated. The WRs make a ton of of adjustments at the line. The RB’s don’t just take a hand off and run. They are a big part of the passing game. It’s a big change from the west-coast-zone blocking the Broncos have run for 14 years. Any new overhaul like this needs time to gel and time to get the players.

(5) Lack of talent. IMO the keys in order of importance to a successful NFL team are: Talent, Coaching, Scheme and Luck. And I don’t want to hear how NE took a bunch of no-name players and became a dynasty. Brady is a fantastic QB. Vrabel is an outstanding LB. Patriots have been very smart with player selection. Drafting talented guys that fit the program and getting rid of guys who they knew were at the end of their ‘usefulness’. Don’t kid yourself thinking that NE is a bunch backups. They a very talented football team. I bet Cassell does very well in KC this year. Scan over the Broncos roster and ask yourself: “Which of these guys could start on ANY team in the NFL?” Answer: Darn, few. Clady, DJ (maybe), Champ (if he’s healthy), Hillis, Royal, our RT (whose name I can’t think of right now!)….. Any one else? Do the same thing with the Steelers, Patriots and SD and I bet you can come up with 10-12 players. That’s why those teams are in the playoff hunt and we are not. Shanny excellent coaching covered up a lot of warts on the roster.

I could go on but I think you get the picture….. 8-8 would be a best case scenario. I bet we go 2-4 in the division this year. Swept by SD, split with KC and the Radiers. I think KC is going to be MUCH better with Cassell and Haley. Edwards was an idiot and they basically had a ham sandwich at QB last year. That leaves CIN, CLE, DAL, NE, BAL, PIT, WAS, NYG, IND and PHI. I just don’t see 6 wins here. Assuming that If I’m right about the Broncos D-line that’ll be soft of the middle, we’re gonna struggle with any team that has a physical O-Line and/or a physical power RB (DAL, BAL, PIT, NYG). We *should* beat CIN and CLE, but I have a bad feeling about that CIN game. Maybe we catch DAL on a bad night. Doubt it. WAS is a possible W. Maybe PHI is resting starters late in the season and we pick up a cheapie W in late December.

It looks like a whole lotta losses and 4-12 or 5-11 season. I’d be thrilled with 6+ wins.

AtomicLeo Amen brother now we have someone talking with some sense here. You nailed it right on the head.