And We Thought McDaniels Stammered…

McDaniels system doesn’t require a “franchise” quarterback. Continue to spend picks on D, build the best d in the league, and make a run like the Bears did a couple years back with the terrible Rex Grossman. We certainly have a better o in place then that team and I think McDaniels system could get a lot more out of Orton or any other decent QB for that matter then you guys think.

I don’t see why people think Mcdaniels screwed things up. I mean, we all know he wnated Cutler as his QB but it couldn’t work out, so he went and did the next best thing. I think we are gonna surprize a lot of teams this year. Orton is a great QB and a team leader. He has won in this league and has ALMOST proven himself. And i think McD can help Orton do just that!!

Jared, your laughing now but the season hasnt started yet. I wouldnt be talking so much crap if i were you. I cant wait till Broncos win the AFC West.

oh and here is another thing. this offense is gonna be more wide open for Orton. he has a far better group of receivers and O-linemen then he did in Chicago. Orton is gonna manage games alot better with the weapons he has available to him.

broncos and mc d are so roung.they know it everyone knows it.they just got rid of elway.jay didnt want to play for mc daniels .the one that broke up the nfls top offnce this year and the gratest ever.we did it all for criss and kyle what a major screw up i wont suport the broncos in any way.utile mc d. is gone.bolen give your broncos to shanahan.if you realy care about the broncos you will.i wonder what shanahan thoughts on all this crap.

joe who the hell is Troy Smith he was a beast in college and owns a Heisman trophy. From what he played in the preseason he has great potential and he has power in his arm. now what does Quinn have? yeah Brady Quinn couldn’t beat the 29th ranked Defense with Kellen Winslow, Braylon Edwards, Donte Stallworth and Jamal Lewis. Troy Smith receiving crop isn’t nearly as talented and I’m sure he beats with Cleveland’s D.

uh yeah Troy Smith does have a heisman trophy. which in the NFL translates to…….SHIT!! Troy Smith fell to the fifth round because he doesnt have the tools to play QB fulltime in the NFL. he is too short and too willing to run before making the correct reads. Heisman Trophys mean nothing when getting into the NFL. look at these guys:

Eric Crouch QB Nebraska. heisman trophy and drafted in the 3rd round by St Louis to play WR not QB.

Jason White QB Oklahoma. Heisman trophy winner and one time runner up to the heisman winner. not even drafted!

Matt Leinart QB USC. heisman trophy winner. do i really need to list the rest? and is now riding the pine.

Reggie Bush RB USC. heisman trophy winner and the most overhyped and highest drafted 2 down RB/slot receiver in the history of the NFL. afraid to run inside and is more of a receiver then anything.

Ron Dayne RB Wisconsin. heisman trophy winner and………..hmmm nothing else worth mentioning.

Danny Weurffel QB Florida. heisman trophy and………see above ron dayne.

OJ Simpson RB USC. heisman trophy winner. ok he was good….at murdering his wife and Ron Goldman.

my point is the Heisman Trophy doesnt mean anything when getting to the NFL.

It’s about posessions people… Coach McD said it all. We were terrible, close to last in the division in drives of 2 mins or less. 32nd in Kick off returns. We were #3 in yards, but below average it points scored?? Especially in the red zone?? Winning QBs, with a good defense of bad, score in the red zone… period!!

When will we realize that is about pesessions…Quality posessions! Our offense put our defense is as many bad positions.

Calm down everybody. I believe that we keep our picks and solidify our Defense. If Kyle or Chris do not workout we can always trade up for a QB in next years draft, which will be the year of the QB anyway.

I am all for a Bears Broncos superbowl. Coach McD would tear Cutler apart in prep. Cutler has no work ethic. McD would eat him alive in game prep. Even though it’s meaningless, I forsee an blowout preseason game.

Tom~

Have you looked at the schedual lately. I think we are in for a rough season IF we can’t fix the defense. That in my eyes is the only weakness, and special teams. I much as i would like to personally punch JMcD in the face, you have to respect his offensive state of mind (and i’m referring to his BACKGROUND).

Life is full of changes. MOST of the time it’s a good thing. Take what you have and move on.

Kerry,
Yeah they all won Heisman’s but everyone you named won because of the system they were in. Ohio State doesn’t produce QB’s and has never been pass happy college, such USC or Florida. Yes he did fall to the fifth round because he was considered to short to play. But he is 6′, same size as Drew Brees. Got a cannon for an arm. I don’t know why you think he looks to run instead of making the reads? Is it because he’s black? He only rushed for 204 yards during his heisman year. I just made the statment that he out performed Brady Quinn in college and I would rather give up a 6 round pick for him instead a 1st round pick for Quinn. Smith was going to start over Joe Flacco at the beginning of last year before complications from tonsillitis. Also for every heisman bust out there, there are also the ones that did well, Barry, Eddie George, Tim Brown, Charles Woodson, Marcus Allen and I’m no way saying Troy Smith is in any of their leagues but he is also not Danny Wuefful, Jason White, or Eric Couch.

As for jchase8410, relax, this is a blog not a dissertation. Besides, it’s pet peeves not “pet peaves”.

We forgot about Gino Torretta & Andre Ware – Heisman means nothing in the NFL.

With five picks in the first 84 picks? we need to go D-D-D-D-O. We don’t trade up, we don’t trade down. Stay where we are, get three, possibly four starters to the defense for this year, because WE NEED IT. McD said it in that 20min radio interview, #2 in offense but we couldn’t score for shit. What do a bunch of yds mean if we can’t get 6pts at the end of a drive? Our schedule is rough, ROUGH, this year. It’ll be the first year of McD’s system aka growing pains. We need to move our defense from 29 to atleast 17-20 this year, and that is a huge jump for one year but possible with proper drafting. No one on these boards can say that they wouldn’t take dropping down to #12 – #15 in offense, which is probably going to happen anyway, if we can bring the defense up to 17-20. Its called balance.

Raji (if he’s there)/Jackson (if Raji’s gone), Maualuga (#18 HAS TO BE a linebacker), Chung (young hard hitting safety – 4.54 in the 40 at the combine) with the first three. Maybe Sen’Derrick Marks, DT/DE from Auburn for the third pick, but we can’t forget about Marcus Thomas to play DE in the 3-4 if we can grab Raji.

Kudos on the Marshall comments, I applauded him on Saturday. Took the company line and put his support behind the coach, “4500 and 25tds doesn’t mean anything if you can’t win.” How true. Is the man-child growing up? I dunno, but whatever he says and whenever he’s ready for action, Goodell is going to have a final say in how screwed he’ll/we’ll be in the first few games (hopefully four max).

rotoworld.com has a report from SI peter king that McD looked at tape of all 3 possible QB’s that were involved with trade talks (luke mccown, jason campbell, kyle orton) and he was most impressed with Orton. Simms will compete but its Orton’s job to lose…I like reading this because it supports the fact that we will not trade up to get a QB or the fact that we will NOT draft a QB early… Im happy with Orton and im sure that McD is too…I hope we dont take sanchez even if he is available at 12. I say we go defense early and often…If we do draft a QB i hope its in the mid to late rounds.

Sorry for the spelling error . . . It’s Brian Orakpo . . . not Orapko . . . I’ll probably make this same error again . . . Oops . . . .

mikebirty – i love baseball, but nothing compares to the 1st NFL weekend in September sports-wise. And with all this Bronco drama since December, all I want to see now is the new look Broncos, QB & Defense. Its going be a long and difficult wait for August.

We shouldn’t even touch a Qb this year. We have two #1 again next year, with the first one probably being anywhere from 5 (unfortunately) to 12. If there’s someone we need to have at QB next year we’ll have the picks to move up and grab him. As much as some of us want to drag him down, we have to give Orton a chance. He did START for a 9-7 team, and his stats should only be better with this huge upgrade in o-line and receivers that he has now. We have a QB comp for this year, if it blows up in our face and one of them can’t do the job, we have the 2010 picks to move up and get our guy. These are all the top QB’s who will be and most likely be declaring next year: Tebow, Bradford, McCoy, Dan LeFevour, Zach Robinson, and Jevan Snead. Four of these guys go in the first two rounds next year. We can wait on QB till then.

well i hope we get josh freeman he will be beter then cutler im an expert on qbs.i wanted cutler before he was drafted i knew he was going to be good.but without the broncos he will be nothing.its broncos who mess up big time.idoits mc d. and bowlen.if they get josh freeman ill fogive this hole mess josh mc d. started.josh free man is the best qb. in the draft this year,and he will be better then cutler.still stupid broncos brass got rid of are record holder.so to tell you we got rid of are best qb. ever.even better then elway.jay broke records.in his second year starting.im tierd of the broncos sucking every year.i want to be on a wining team.so im a bears fan know i threw away all my broncos stuff,and bought a teeshirt thats bears on it.basicly the same colers that i like.but ill bounce back to the broncos whan jay cutler is retired,and mc daniels is fired.or when josh free man goes to the broncos and starts to win games after mc daniels is fired.im a trater becuase im tierd of the broncos high school foot ball and desitions.no way win a super bowl in ten years broncos.and im not going to watch crapy football for a nother ten years.so bears you got a fan and someone who buys a lot of foot ball stuff.you got my money and suport.go bears and cutler,i hope broncos franchise goes under so they can leave pat bowlen cant wait until you relise that you mess up.give the franchise to shannahan.someone who show fan loyalty and wants to win.and not power trip becuase the denver fans like mike better.so sell the franchise to mike if you care about the broncos.new owner = better franchis.brady quinn sucks hes to short and has no arm stranth.broncos are doomed.so imn like cutler leaving a franchise that is falling.

YES THIER IS A RESON TO DRAG THIS OUT FURTHER.i want to let every one know howthe broncos are idiont.besides tring to get more fans no to suport the idiots that rep. the broncos.they destroyed the broncos.so thats why i bring it up and i wont let go intill f a g mcd is out of denver and bowlen sell.

i wish the broncos play bears this year so we could get are a s s kicked and show all you fans thet mc daniels sucks a s s and bowlen has alltimers.al davis woldnt trade cuttler shows how dunb the broncos are

That’s great thinking, you’d rather see the Broncos lose, than win? Hmmm…yeah, that makes sense. You do realize that every game the Bears lose gives us a better first round pick in 2010, right? When you use Al Davis as an example of what to do, then you know you’ve lost your credibility. Don’t worry about ass-kickings, we’ll be on the wrong end of a few of those from the NFC East and San Diego this year.

Roshon2411:

yeah thats it. i said Troy Smith runs first and throws second because he is black. gee you found me out sherlock. way to be a great detective. PFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTT!!! you are a moron. but you must be black otherwise the racecard wouldnt have come up at all. i could care less what color he is. the bottomline is he fell to the 5th round because he does not have the intangibles to play in the NFL. heisman trophy is the most OVERRATED piece of hardware on earth. and Smith was not starting over Flacco. the competition in Baltimore was an open competition. Smith wasnt named the starter for anything. not one single scout of analyst projected him to go higer then the fourth round and if he was so good teams would be lining up to trade for him. which nobody is. but im sure thats because he is black right? not because he actually isnt that good but because he is black. u mentioned above Smith looked good in preseason. yeah so what? so did Matt Leinart and what happened to him? oh yeah he rode the pine for the year. also a Heisman winner.

thats after 2 years ever herd of that.name one qb that has ever gone to pro bowle in his second year starting.name it hu.idiot.not even the grate elway.

I guess Royal, Marshall, Stokely, Scheffler, and Graham had nothing to do with Cutler’s stats, right? I guess Cutler would dropback, chuck the ball, and then sprint down the field to catch all his passes. That’s what it sounds like to me. Like he put all these numbers up on his own. Yeah, I think that’s the way it happened. Marshall neeeevvvvvveeeerrrr got any yds after the catch, right?

I’m wasting my time, I’m spent with this. Cutler’s gone, go cry about if you want………idiot.

ya ya ya truth hurts.every buddy in the nfl has resevers and runnig backs.so thier supposto catch the ball runn the ball evry ons so you piont is lame.every qb has those thing you see.not evry one does as good as cutler.what im tring to say is those play er are nopt that good just goo young talent thats all yoyu will see.thgeir not that good.jay made them look good.idoit to act like a as s.becuase thruth hurts.i wish i was rong but im not.grat qb make thier team look good.and team mates.jay cutler mobility is so good that line 2 rookies got total of 2 sackes in the whole year.rookie offince lineman made them look good.brandon marshall dropp shi tloads of passes still jay stood with him and threw the ball to him all kinds.so dont bemad at me be mad at the bronxcos and mc d.truthhurts hu.

Sickening. Absolutely sickening. Good riddance Jay. I wanted to believe in you, but you’re just a disappointment.