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Published on 11/20/2011 at Sun Nov 20 08:36.
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Quarterback Tim Tebow #15 of the Denver Broncos scrambles away from Ropati Pitoitua #79 of the New York Jets at Sports Authority Field at Mile High on November 17, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. Tebow went on to score the game winning touchdown as the Broncos defeated the Jets 17-13. (Doug Pensinger/Getty Images)

After the embarrassing loss to the Lions, I wrote a pretty strong article exclaiming my feelings that Tim Tebow simply wasn’t ready to be an NFL quarterback, and especially proclaiming that I felt it unlikely he would be ready this season or the next. I fully expected Tebow haters to come and hate on me (they did) and take my words deeper than they meant (they did) but no one can deny that my point was that I didn’t think Tebow could consistently win.

Now, 4-1 is a pretty small sample size. Remember the 2009 Broncos that went 6-0. That record made the Kyle Orton haters (me included) doubt their opinions. If we take that record by itself, that team was pretty darned good. Of course, that record doesn’t stand by itself. It takes all sixteen games in a season. We can always drop a couple of outliers. The games where a team had a particularly good or particularly bad day tend to be deviations on how the team will truly perform. And as defenses get more film, things change.

So I’m not standing here before you today, so to speak, to proclaim that I’ve come around and joined the Tebow bandwagon. Not yet, anyway. I am still concerned that we are winning by luck and surprise and that neither of these two elements are keys to long term success.

I am certain that we are winning because our defense has awakened. Elvis Dumervil wasn’t himself for the first quarter of the season. Is anybody really surprised? The dude tore a pectoral muscle and was out of football for a whole year. And there were no OTAs and a shortened training camp. So of course he needed some time to get his football legs — or in his case, chest, I guess — back to form. But Ladies and Gentleman, Elvis is with us. And with Doom on one side and Von on the other, the opposing offenses are having trouble adjusting. Just when they think they’ve got an answer for both of these men, Dennis Allen is able to take advantage of a soft middle and…Ryan McBean or D.J. Williams can sneak through and get a sack. Or a hurry and maybe a knockdown.

Mark Sanchez #6 of the New York Jets recovers a fumbled snap in the second quarter against Von Miller #58 of the Denver Broncos at Invesco Field at Mile High on November 17, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. (Doug Pensinger/Getty Images)

Dumervil and Miller are beasts individually. As a duo, though, the whole is greater than the sum of their parts. So yeah, put me in the camp that credits a surprisingly resurgent Denver defense with the wins.

That said… I am much more impressed with Tim Tebow than I expected to be.

For one, I’m starting to doubt the accuracy issues a little. Yes, he’s missed some passes that he absolutely should make. But you know what I’ve noticed? When he misses those passes, it’s because he’s erring on the side of caution. He’s putting the ball where the defender can’t get it. So maybe his receiver can’t get it either. Maybe that’s a timing issue, maybe that’s an accuracy issue, and maybe that’s just Tebow playing that he’d rather punt the ball because he missed a pass than throw a pick. The exact opposite of Jay Cutler and Brett Favre. Maybe he still hasn’t learned the difference between open in college and open in the NFL. It’s a really fine line between open and picked off. That’s fair. I don’t know everything that’s going on there. It is, however, the most important area in the game that Tim Tebow has to improve at. And I’m not saying he has to become a 60% passer; his other important skills are such that maybe it doesn’t need to be that good. But he absolutely does need to be able to hit the simple routes. The bread and butter routes. Those passes mean the difference between three and out and six and eight play drives.

Not every drive has to score, but you can’t squander good field position and you can’t leave your opponent with good field position because you couldn’t move the ball at all.

Second, did you happen to see the post-game interview with the NFL Network guys? Near the end, Eisen asked Tim to walk them through the last drive. Sadly, they showed video of the last play of the last drive, so we only got one play but clearly they were hoping for more, and I think we would’ve got it. But even so, what we got was a very coherent breakdown of what the defense was doing. He whipped it out like he’d practiced, but who practices that kind of thing for the media? Football people rarely tell the media technical details about plays. They know that it’s above the heads of most of the audience. But there was Tebow on national television explaining, in football terms, what he saw on the field and which defenders were going which way.

I don’t need proof about how hard Tebow works. You can see that it’s part of the very core of his being. But right there, I think we saw it. It’s a glimpse of the kinds of things he knows he needs to do to succeed.

The question remains: Can defenses figure out how to defeat a Tim Tebow led offense? The Jets are one of the top tier defenses in the league. For 55 minutes, they had that offense shut down. But thanks to a stout defense, a little bit of luck, and one 95 yard amazing drive (that you can credit equally to the offense clicking on all cylinders and the Jets defense making boneheaded errors) that much-maligned offense came out and won. Tebow threw more again, but missed a few passes that we really need him to make. The defense isn’t going to hold every offense to 13 points. The Jets offense struggles and as much as the defense was dominant, it was also that the Jets are having some problems that allowed that to happen.

During that aforementioned 6-0 streak in 2009, many of the same questions were being asked. The defense was winning games because the offense couldn’t hold onto the ball. That’s great while it lasts, but defenses wear down. There’s a very real worry about sustainability. Just three games ago, all the Tebow supporters were talking about how bad the defense is. Maybe they heard you, but let’s be realistic: that defense is currently outkicking its coverage. We cannot expect dominating performances from them every time. And we shouldn’t. I expect competence out of them, and I expect our star players to step up and keep things going when things get tough.

I’ve been reading that Tim Tebow is so polarizing that there’s just no middle ground. Either love him or hate him. That it’s not about his skill that it’s about his religion. Well, both of things are wrong. I neither love him, nor hate him. I’m on the fence about him. I’ve always known he had the potential, but you have to be a believer to just assume that potential is going to turn into greatness.

And it’s not about his religion. I’d like to say to put the religion thing aside, but you can’t. As Crash Davis once said in (in my not so humble option) the best sports movie ever made, “If you believe you’re playing well because you’re getting laid, or because you’re not getting laid, or because you wear women’s underwear, then you are! And you should know that!”

Tebow believes he plays well because of his Faith. Well, he does. That’s the thing about sports at that level. If a player believes he does well because of something, whether it’s big and serious or trivial, but if he really believes…then he’s right. Because to do otherwise would be to doubt, and on the field, no player has the time for doubt. That split second hesitation is the difference between a successful play and a loss of yardage. Or a pick-six. So yeah. I believe Tim Tebow does well because he is a man of Faith, and I’m okay with that. It doesn’t matter what I personally believe, or what you, Pat Robertson or Richard Dawkins (no relation; and look him up if you don’t know the name) believes. What matters is what the 53 players in the locker room believe.

So after all this, what do I think? The sad fact is, I don’t know anymore. I honestly didn’t believe the team could simply be willed to win — and I don’t think that is exactly what has happened — but every time, it’s like something crazy happens, and the unbelievable happens. Because they believe that they can. And winning cures everything. At the end of the day, I just want my team to win. And they’re doing that. So I’m along for the ride. I’m trying not to think about the fact that we are currently half a game back from being the division leader. But try as I might, I can’t help thinking about it. There’s a lot of hope. But hope is dangerous, because while winning cures everything, there is absolutely nothing worse than getting your hopes up only to have them dashed.

So I’m going to remain doubtful, and hope that I am pleasantly surprised.

  • Boydy2669

    I am an atheist. This kid has got it, and will keep improving. People that know anything with out agendas all say it. Nice article man.

  • Carson

    this was a great article! nice. I am with you. I am doubtful, but HOPE to be surprised. Well said.

  • areferee

    “What’s love got to do with it” … Tina Turner

    Or in Tebow’s case…What’s love of the Lord got to do with it?  Probably everything!  I suspect it is his primary motivation for all that he accomplishes, on and off the field.  Nothing wrong with that.

    When it comes to the Broncos as a whole, there are the believers, the agnostics and the atheists…just like “real life”.  Nothing wrong with that either.  (Count me in as a member of the choir, because I have felt a lot more like singing lately.  4 and 1 will do that!)

    Where we go in the future as a team…(here again, just like real life) is a question and open for debate.  What you CAN’T question is the fact that the Broncos and their fan base is ALIVE again and feeling things like…faith and hope… and even LOVE!  (But enough about the Cheerleaders!)

    I don’t question a little healthy skepticism, like EHM in this article.  Just like real life, it makes for a better “Sunday Service”.  (Or Monday, or Thursday!)

    Yea, Verily!  GO THEE BRONCOS!

  • Charles Wilson

    Back when Doug Williams was QB for the Bay Buccaneers, a receiver stated that DW was hard to catch because he threw a hard ball all the time.  Coach John McKay replied something like:

    ” That’s OK, I understand that.  So we’ll have to get some receivers in here that will catch a hard thrown ball…”

    The article points out 2 important items: Tebow SEES and UNDERSTANDS what the defense is doing.  He puts the ball where he it cannot be intercepted.

    Mebbe he’s still physically growing.

    Remember though, the Denver Option Attack is an incomplete option attack made complete by being fitted into a multiple formation NFL passing scheme.  ‘N Tebow understands  it.

    Also remember that the word in the NFL is “H – O – A – P”, not “hope”.  As in, “Head On A Post”.  If you live by Hoap in the NFL, look to the acronym’s translation.

    TT may or may not succeed.  The TT experiment may come to a crashing halt when someone rolls up on his leg.  That’ll probably happen in the pocket, not on a run.

    There will be other Tim Tebows, they just won’t be paid 12 Million Dollars.  It’s the nature of the Option Attack, incomplete or otherwise.  The pool of available Option QBs is larger than the pool of NFL Passing QBs.

    I HOAP TT succeeds, but I have my own agenda.



  • Anonymous

    Andy Dufresne:
    That’s the beauty of music. They can’t get that from you… Haven’t you ever felt that way about music?

    I played a mean harmonica as a younger man. Lost interest in it though. Didn’t make much sense in here.

    Andy Dufresne:
    Here’s where it makes the most sense. You need it so you don’t forget.


    Andy Dufresne:
    Forget that… there are places in this world that aren’t made out of
    stone. That there’s something inside… that they can’t get to, that
    they can’t touch. That’s yours.

    What’re you talking about?

    Andy Dufresne:
    Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.

    Andy Dufresne:
    [in letter to Red] Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

    [narrating] I find I’m so excited, I can barely sit
    still or hold a thought in my head. I think it’s the excitement only a
    free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose
    conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope
    to see my friend and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it
    has been in my dreams. I hope.


    If you could ever tie these all time great quotes to football, it will be now.
    What Tebow gives many is HOPE.
    Remember, Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

    Maybe it’s hope that has our defense dominating. Maybe it’s hope that has our special teams being spectacular. maybe it’s hope that enables our offense to do things when the chips are down and we need a miracle. I think it would be a mistake to discredit the power of hope.

    I hope we keep winning. I hope Tebow develops into a great QB. I hope we make the playoffs this year. I hope.

  • Tom9798

    Good post, Pete.

  • Tom9798

    Nice article E.H.
    When one is prospecting, one hopes to find a diamond in the rough.
    They don’t come out of the ground perfect; they have to be turned, so one can see
    A different aspect of how the light shines through it.
    When one finds such, they would never think of giving it away.
    I’m thrilled TT is a Denver Bronco, and not on some other team.  From what I have heard
    And read, the whole organization from the Owner to the towel boy feels the same way.
    He will never be going to another team.  Whew . . .

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  • Anonymous

    The on coming draft is loaded with efficient QB and we will be foolish not to draft one.. Yes i am a supporter of Tebow but honestly this isn’t going to work for the long run.. stop drinking the kool-aid and watch the game.. maybe if Tebow learns to throw the ball with some accuracy i will change my mind set..   

  • Tom9798

    get on the bus . . .

  • Bry

    Great read EHM!

  • Bry

    Agreed. The FO needs to draft a QB this upcoming draft. It doesn’t have to be a high draft pick one, but we’ll be really short at the QB position at the end of the season. The guy doesn’t necessarily have to be Tebow’s replacement, but more for the competetion, and improving the team at every position you can.

    It will be interesting to see what the powers that be do in the off season.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent article that sums up how I think many of us feel.  I want Tebow to be the next coming of Elway and then some.  However, there are still enough  trouble areas to keep me from going full bore (not that is matter to anyone).

    IF he can improve his passing to a reasonable level then we have something special.  Like Dumervile, Tebow is a victim of the lockout.  Not making excuses for him as it sure didn’t seem to hurt Dalton or Newton, but he really could have used it.

    I will continue to take a wait and see attitude to observe how things progress.  Five weeks ago many of us agreed he needed to play to find out what we have.  Five weeks into it… we’re going to need the next six to hopefully understand.

    If the draft were tomorrow… I think you draft a QB.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t subscribe to insider, but what a teaser.  

    So what was the crux of the article?  I would guess he says they are adjusting and doing what they have to do around his strength’s to win games right now, but not really getting a feel for his long term development or where they need to head in the future.

  • Strawdog

    Without doubt the cleanest, most insightful piece I’ve read on young Mr. Tebow.  Very, very well done EHM. 

    I’ve been more on the positive side of the fence than you but not by much. No question he must improve his completion percentage, but two things give me considerable hope: 
    1) his career completion percentage in college was 67% (over 9,000 yards//88 TDs to only 15 INTs)…yes I know that’s just college but against the best CBs in the SEC that ain’t chopped liver.
    2) he had no off-season time or a full training camp to get his timing down with Decker, Thomas etc.   Considering that, as you say, he’s not missing Decker on those fly routes by much. 

    I too am not ready to declare victory on our QB position…but I’m lovin the potential.   

  • Strawdog

    Yes Anthony, you draft Robert Griffin out of Baylor…an athletic, run-pass, QB who will be a perfect back-up to Tebow. :)

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sold on the Broncos drafting a QB next year if Tebow continues to win and improve this season.  First of all we have Adam Weber, and it might be possible to bring back Brady Quinn.  I’m guessing there are not going to be any NFL teams willing to give Quinn a starting job, so he might end up staying here.  If he does leave, I think the Broncos should bring in an old vet to hold a clipboard and mentor Tebow.  If you draft a QB, it is just going to create more controversy. 
    If Tebow stinks it up in the last 6 games, well I guess you have to spend a high draft pick to have a plan “B” for next year.

  • Anonymous

    Great read E!

  • chard Montour

    Great writing! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again tho. These fourth quarter comebacks don’t just happen out of no where and there not just about faith. It’s play calling. You have to pay attention. You have to keep tabs on what the broncos did playbook wise through the whole game and compare it to what they did with 5minutes left in the fourth quarter. Be a football fan not just a bronco fan.

  • Cdub12344321

    Great read!!!!

    I beg to differ on some though, I understand alot of us are coming to the agreement that our defense is winning these games. I’m here to say hold your horses, because it’s been a couple games where we were behind by a reasonable score. So be it we’ve been that far behind before with other qb’s and it had gotten worse, before better the majority of the times! Resilance is a huge part of tebows game, rather it college or NFL he loves to rise above adversity. That what makes me respect him he will when at any cost!
    One more thing even though it’s off topic, but did anybody see reevis high tail from dodge haha and how are ya feeling about Harris sometimes he gives up ground, but he gains it back quick!

  • Davidl413

    Excellent article. Certainly one of the best I’ve read about Tebow so far. I’m in on Tebow, but I appreciate the cautious optimism shown here. I’m also convinced that his passing efficiency will improve. His passing success at Florida wasn’t a fluke. With his skill set, he will be lethal if he can get his passing up to 55% or so.

  • Robert Jay

    It’s unfortunate that some Bronco fans cannot enjoy a win when it happens.

    Former and current NFL players all say it’s tough to get a win, quite tough.  It must be disheartening to them to think that any win they do achieve is because of luck.  Why do they even play a game when a win or a loss is left up to fate?  Well, I suppose if they get paid a lot of money maybe they don’t mind.  Still, it must suck.

    Hopefully the Broncos get lucky and win another game this season.  I’ll be sure to bring a rabbit foot to the game against the Chargers.  I suggest you all do the same to increase our chances of winning!

  • Anonymous

    No matter what, we are drafting a QB and bringing one in as a Free agent, maybe we resign Quinn but we simply don’t have enough QBs on the roster.

  • Anonymous

    I’m going all in on Tebow and would like to give him another full season without the controversy of drafting another QB in the first or second round.  At this point we will be lucky to get the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft and in my mind there is less upside to that than sticking with Tebow for another year.  So far Tebow has outperformed EVERY other QB from his draft class and the only 2 QB’s from this past draft that I would (maybe) put ahead of him are Dalton and Newton and even at that I saw a TON of rookie mistakes from both of these QB’s yesterday that cost their respective teams the win.  I think having a full off season will do wonders for Tebow’s throwing and if we can focus our high picks on more defenders then we could have a top 5 D on our hands.  That alone will put us into playoff contention next year and will give us more time to see if Tebow can develop.  

  • Anonymous

    Rock on ref!

  • Anonymous

    Robert Griffin may end up being the second QB taken out of the draft. Personally, I think he is a better prospect than Andrew Luck. Wherever he goes, it will be to start.

  • Anonymous

    I believe I stated as much in another thread.  Catch-22.  Fox and McCoy have built an offense that Tebow can run.  They are not particularly confident in his passing ability so they limit his throwing.  Doing so limits the ability of Tebow to develop as an NFL passer.   

  • Anonymous

    Welcome to the idiots and haters club.

  • Monty

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  • Guest

    Tebow is winning games one after the other 3 in a row but i do have to commit Tebow does have to do a litle ajustng here and there but im a huge Tebow fan and gator fan hes my role model lets go Tebow (i am a Christian) i love Christ and God

  • aFan

    Great article, but I’m not as hopeful as you that Tebow’s accuracy or ability to complete the quick-drop-throw NFL passes will improve by the end of the season. He demonstrates the same problems today that he did in the Senior Bowl 2 years ago, struggles to take the ball from center, read the D and deliver an accurate quick strike. This deficiency is showing up in the 3rd convergence stats when teams blitz, and if the down distance is over 5 yards you gotta throw.
    As much as I enjoy the Broncos winning with the read option, I think that running this type of offense is really the coaching staff throwing up a white flag on Tebow improving as a passer. The FO will draft a QB next year. They almost have to since Tebow is the only one under contract after this season and I bet we go into TC with 4 guys: Tebow, 2012 drafted rookie, Weber (maybe) and a vet. 

  • Rutgersrule

    to all you tebow doubters!!

    ^^all about why tim tebow should be QB because all he does is WIN..great easy quick read for any broncos fan

  • Anonymous

    Tebow, Quinn, Adam Webber are not enough?

  • steve


    The first of many articles to be written on here by haters starting to admit they were wrong. It’s comical. Let it out fellas, doesn’t it feel good to be a convert, quick, get on the bandwagon before you feel left out!!!

    And I like how you don’t give up on the hate all at once, so just in case he has a bad game you can hop right off the bandwagon with all your hater buddies and they’ll still have you back. 

  • E. Halsey Miles

    Damn. You pegged me clean. I’m writing this because I’m hoping you’ll like me, “steve”. I don’t agree with you, so my opinion (which it is that, an opinion) is hate.

    I wonder what the correlation of people who think I’m a hater and people who think Fox News is telling them the truth is.

  • E. Halsey Miles

    Actually, I think because of the insight of people like you, I’m going to hop right back off the Tebow bandwagon. Oh wait, I wasn’t actually on the Tebow bandwagon, and I made that pretty clear, but I’m at least willing to let him prove me wrong.

    Honestly though, the people who are out there saying nasty things about John Elway on various places because he has the balls to tell it like it is aren’t the kind of people I want to associate with or be associated with. It’s makes me sick to my stomach.

    If I didn’t love the Broncos so much, I’d actually wish for 6 straight losses just to watch the blind Tebow supporters eat crow. Except I hate seeing the team lose, and I have nothing against Tim Tebow himself. Just the asinine people who happily abuse the rest of us because we don’t agree with them.

  • areferee

    Two questions in search of an answer:

    The “Duke” is proving himself just as effective in the front office as he was in front of the orange and blue at Mile High.

    When Pat Bowlen handed him the “keys to the franchise”, it was as good a move as signing McDaniels was a bad one.

    Elway could be driving around with the top down and a cheerleader on his lap, (notwithstanding the fact that he married one…and a Raider, no less), but instead, he is clearly hard at work, looking to improve the team at EVERY position and trying to drive us ultimately to the playoffs.

    His candor in response to a media question about Tebow is EXACTLY what he promised the fans as he came back on board…truth and transparency.  He had his detractors coming in as an NFL exec, but he is proving to everyone just how good he still is as a leader.

    It’s franchise first… and I think he has the “car” heading down a good road, even with having to dodge a few potholes.

         1.  Is there ANYONE on either side of Tebowing that can’t admit that the Broncos are recovering from the McHoody nightmare?

         2.  When we call ourselves Bronco fans, exactly whom are we supporting?  Dove Valley the building, or the people IN IT?

    (And yes, I do believe in dissent.  Positive and constructive dissent, not divisive and destructive!)

  • Monty

    You can’t be an objective critic of Tim Tebow. You either love him or hate him, no in between.

    (Not true at all, but that’s basically what each group believes, whether they recognize it or not).