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Published on 11/12/2009 at Thu Nov 12 10:00.
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Denver Broncos quarterback Chris Simms talks to the media in April 2009. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)

Denver Broncos quarterback Chris Simms talks to the media in April 2009. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)

Woody Paige‘s latest column opines for a quarterback change, the long-time crutch of any fair weather football fan, and the most popular debate in sports. Unless you have a Peyton Manning on your team, the backup quarterback is always the team’s most popular player.

Until Monday night’s debacle, Kyle Orton was the talk of the town. One bad game later — ONE! — and Denver’s biggest sports columnist is calling for his head.

It makes me wonder if Woody had this article stashed away, waiting for Orton to falter so he could reiterate the opinion he gave in the offseason: Chris Simms should be the starter.

It also makes me wonder if Woody was disappointed it took Kyle this long.

Still, let us enter the madness that is Woody Paige, one of one-sided internal conversations and mudslinging and masterful spin-doctoring.

To give credence to his belief that Chris Simms should start in Washington, Paige transcribes a supposed conversation he had with a “large cheese at The Post.” Let’s see what this Cheddar had to say:

“Simms hasn’t played since early in the 2006 season.”

Good point, Mr. Cheese. It’s been three years since Simms saw real, meaningful game action. Woody’s response?

Orton only played three games in 2006-07 after being benched, following 15 starts in 2005, before the Bears went on to the Super Bowl. Simms has started 15 NFL games.

Now, Woody. Orton wasn’t playing or awhile, true, but he got the start after winning a quarterback competition in the 2008 offseason. Simms lost his quarterback battle. It also says nothing of the fact that Orton was preparing to play an NFL game against the world champs last week. Simms hasn’t had to deal with that type of pressure or preparation in three years.

“Simms is left-handed.”

So were Steve Young, Ken Stabler and Boomer Esiason, who took their teams to Super Bowls.

OTHER QUARTERBACKS WERE LEFT-HANDED TOO?! OMGWTFBBQ?!!?

I think what the Gouda was trying to say (and probably would have said if he wasn’t a figment of Woody’s imagination) is that moving to a left-handed quarterback affects a lot more than just the person calling plays, most especially the protection schemes. And it takes your most valuable offensive lineman, Ryan Clady, and neutralizes his most valuable asset: ability to protect the quarterback’s blindside.

With Ryan Harris reeling do you really want to trust Tyler Polumbus with that upmost responsibility?

“Yeah, but…”
Yeah, but Simms has a stronger arm.

Silence, imaginary argumenter! You cannot finish your imaginary sentence!

Orton’s lack of arm strength was revealed twice against Pittsburgh when he tried to make throws off his back foot and couldn’t get the ball to open receivers.

I know your head is already banging against your desk, just try not to split it open.

We. Do. Not. Like. It. When. Our. Quarterbacks. Throw. Off. Their. Back. Foots. Mmkay?

And, Simms can scramble better than Orton, who can’t get outside the rush, can’t run the quarterback draw and can’t throw back across his body.

Most of this is true, although again, that last point is not something you want from a quarterback.

Yes, the Broncos still have won six games — but he (Orton) is what he is — the 18th-best quarterback in the NFL.

Does Woody really think Simms is the 17th?

And Simms looked stronger in training camp than Orton, and better in the exhibition games (until he got hurt), and McDaniels thought so much of Simms he gave him more money to sign here than Orton makes.

Here come the downright lies, and my real reason for writing this article. Woody, you can be mistaken. Your logic can be foolish. That’s fine, it makes me laugh. But using your pedestal to deliberately deceive your audience is irresponsible.

Simms looked stronger in training camp than Orton.” How do you know that, Woody Paige? You weren’t there. Okay, you were there for all of maybe two practices. Maybe two. And when you were there, you certainly weren’t scouting the football team, you were looking for scoop. That’s fine, you’ve earned that, you’re a great writer who’s been around a lot longer than I have.

But I was there for every session. I stood out there with my notepad, furiously scribbling notes, like I’m sure you have dozens of times before I came along, and noted repeatedly that Orton out-played Simms (and I didn’t come into training camp believing Orton should be the de facto starting QB, either).

Simms may have a stronger arm (he does). Simms may be more mobile outside the pocket (he is). But he’s wildly inaccurate, even on his best days. His throws sail high repeatedly. There were a few practices (emphasis on “few”) where Simms’ flashy plays stole the day, but more often than not, Orton outplayed Simms in camp. Period.

…and better in the exhibition games (until he got hurt)…” In one exhibition game. Singular. Orton clearly outplayed him in preseason week two, the game Simms got hurt. He averaged 7.0 yards per attempt to Simms’ 6.3, threw two touchdowns to Simms’ zero, and one ill-advised left-handed interception that made Colorado roll its eyes more than pull its hair.

Your point is half right, but that’s it. In week one of the preseason, Simms clearly played better. But are we really going to make a switch at quarterback because of the first week of exhibition?

…and McDaniels thought so much of Simms he gave him more money to sign here than Orton makes.” Call him a spin doctor, call him deceitful, Paige deliberately tries to trick the less knowledgeable with this one. McDaniels signed Simms to a very-decent backup contract nearly two months before Orton ever came to Denver. Paige knows this, but spins it anyway.

He also knows there are a plethora of Broncos outplaying their contracts and getting paid worse than some backpups/lesser stars on the team. Brandon Marshall. Elvis Dumervil. McDaniels takes each contract independently for what it is; I have my opinions about paying players up front and “locking them down,” but Paige and I and you know the way things work in Dove Valley. Paige is the only one trying to trick people with it.

Simms can’t play any more awfully than Orton on the first drive and in the first quarter at D.C.

Actually, he most certainly can. If Woody had bothered to watch them play in camp, he would come to the same conclusion.

And if he’s terrible, McDaniels can return to Orton at halftime.

He just wants Simms to have a shot. If it doesn’t work, fine, put Orton back into the starting lineup. My response to Paige: Move to Cleveland. You’ll have plenty of fun covering a certain football organization there.

You don’t make personnel changes just because something isn’t working. You need to have an answer, and since the trade deadline has come and gone, that answer needs to come from within. Only if you truly believe that a substitution will improve the team — short-term and long-term — do you make the switch.

That’s why I’m not even a fan of the Russ Hochstein move at left guard — something isn’t working there, to be certain, but Hochstein has been far from stellar.

And despite what Woody would have you believe, Simms is not better than Orton. He wasn’t better in training camp, he wasn’t better in preseason, and Orton hasn’t done near poorly enough to warrant this type of discussion.

There’s only one problem with this sensible solution: McDaniels, who traded a quarterback, won’t have the inner workings to do it.

“Sensible?” Try nonsensical. You don’t run football teams by throwing mud against the wall and hoping it sticks.

And you won’t convince me that part of Woody’s positioning isn’t the fact that Chris Simms is a great, great interview compared to Kyle Orton. He’s an engaging fellow who’s a joy to cover while Orton is a bit boring.

It takes more inner workings to stay the course than hit the panic switch. Making moves is easy. Making the right ones is why McDaniels gets paid the big bucks.

I’ll take McDaniels’ inner workings over Paige’s every time.

Paige: Give Chris Simms the start at QB vs. Redskins [Denver Post]

  • jonkrause

    Kyle not ONE bad game, he didn't play good vs Batly or Cinny either. His stats:
    CINN >> 243 yards 1 TD 3 sacks
    CLE >> 263 yrd. 1 TD
    OAK >> 157 yrd. 1 TD
    Dallas >> 243 yrd. 2 TD 3 sacks
    NE >> 330 yrds. 2 TD 1 Pick (Hail Marry) and sacked twice
    SD >> 229 yrds. 2 TD 1 sack
    BAL >> 152 yards 0 TD 2 sacks
    PITT >> 221 yards 0 TD 3 Picks 2 sacks

    Those are not like the worst numbers, but they are just that “Not the worst numbers” but they are far from great, and after two weeks of poor play fans get mad. He needs to do good not have “Not bad” numbers, he needs to do good, or great, or he'll be thrown out of Denver. Washington is looked at as worse than they are, if I was MCD I'd run RIGHT at Deangelo Hall, but that's just me. I hope Orton can get back on track, GO BRONCOS!!!

  • Nick_Shadow

    I remember when Woody started. He has always had a way with words, good thing since that is what he does, but I have never taken anything he says seriously enough to research it, he makes enough gaffs that I catch, without digging into it the way the writer did. I am glad someone did, but frankly “Woody's World” has always revolved around Woody being clever as opposed to accurate, not worth the trouble.

  • http://broncotalk.net Kyle

    I agree, we need a great quarterback. Simms isn't it, though. Maybe Orton isn't either, but I've seen signs of greatness from Orton (98-yard touchdown drive vs. Patriots ring a bell?).

  • http://broncotalk.net Kyle

    I've now used Ortonary and Simmsensational, writing 2/3 of Woody's next column for him ahead of time. You're welcome, Woody.

  • steeplebomb

    Yes, the Broncos still have won six games — but he (Orton) is what he is — the 18th-best quarterback in the NFL.

    Does Woody really think Simms is the 17th?

    That right there says it all. Good article

  • http://www.broncotalk.net Josh Temple

    “And if he’s terrible, McDaniels can return to Orton at halftime.

    He just wants Simms to have a shot. If it doesn’t work, fine, put Orton back into the starting lineup. My response to Paige: Move to Cleveland. You’ll have plenty of fun covering a certain football organization there.”

    This had me laughing in the middle of the office. Good show old chap!

  • Joe Howard

    woody paige has diarrhea of the mouth. He stirs up whatever can be controversial for the coverage he gets.

  • Nicole

    I think it is obvious that Orton doesn't have the arm strength to throw past 15 yards…but that is what we have. I don't think the other quarter backs are going to do any better (although Brandstater's pre-season looked as though he may be good…someday, not today)…I think McD needs to re-think the offensive strategy, keeping in mind that the teams we play are not going to cover the long ball (since we don't have that play). Unfortunately, this is the same thing that happened to the Bills last year, Edwards seemed good, until everyone realized he couldn't throw over 15 yards…it makes defensive coverage pretty easy. Their season did not end well.

  • Nicole

    I think it is obvious that Orton doesn't have the arm strength to throw past 15 yards…but that is what we have. I don't think the other quarter backs are going to do any better (although Brandstater's pre-season looked as though he may be good…someday, not today)…I think McD needs to re-think the offensive strategy, keeping in mind that the teams we play are not going to cover the long ball (since we don't have that play). Unfortunately, this is the same thing that happened to the Bills last year, Edwards seemed good, until everyone realized he couldn't throw over 15 yards…it makes defensive coverage pretty easy. Their season did not end well.

  • Dynamicdave

    I agree. Kyle was forced to throw the ball against a very good D who knew the running game was dead. Blame the coach for running the ball up the middle, over and over again. Blame the coach for not making 2nd half adjustments. Read my article at Fan Huddle on this very subject.
    http://fanhuddle.com/denverbroncos/2009/11/11/d

  • Dynamicdave

    I agree. Kyle was forced to throw the ball against a very good D who knew the running game was dead. Blame the coach for running the ball up the middle, over and over again. Blame the coach for not making 2nd half adjustments. Read my article at Fan Huddle on this very subject.
    http://fanhuddle.com/denverbroncos/2009/11/11/d

  • mikebirty

    I couldn't even finish that Paige article when I read it. It was terrible.

    I say the Broncos go back to the days when the two QBs used to alternate drives when Elway was injured. Help me out with some names here guys – I think Maddox was one.

  • akbronco

    Woody is an idiot. that being said we still need to get a better QB. Kyle will be our QB for the rest of the year because changing him would not be good. Who would take his place?
    I keep hearing that it took Tom Brady two years to finally get McDaniels offense. That is all good if you really believe that Kyle is as good a QB as Tom Brady.
    Who the hell believes that? I like Kyle and the way he is a team guy and all, he is way classier and a better leader than the baby we had before but he is still not a top tier QB.
    Keep kyle running the show until we get a better QB, and mayb just maybe he can find a game or two where our offense out shines another team. Maybe be can find a game that we can score a TD before the half and maybe we can find a game that we can come back and win in the fourth quarter. We will find some of these games but we really need help at QB, we just don't have any at this time……..Kyle may fully understand this offense in two years, question is, can he execute that offense as well as Tom Brady? That is yet to be seen, but if I were a betting man I would say…….

  • robtink242

    With out a shadow of a doubt Orton's major weakness is his arm strength, that we can all agree on. His second weakness seems to be his mobility his mobility is causing our Oline to suffer badly. His third weakness seems to be his ability to handle pressure situation. That bugged me on MNF pressure came but if he handled it differently instead of panicking we win that game and against Balty.
    Hear me out i don't want Simms as starter either. What has Simms, Orton, and Bradstater share in common? They all have no valuable success in the NFL. Orton sucks and Simms hasn't played in so long I question what he can offer. I feel like if we are going to make a major change the rookie is the best choice. Going against a poor team like Washington.

  • herc_rock

    Shawn Moore.

  • herc_rock

    Woody has been writing that same article since '79!

    Bench Morton, we want Penrose!

  • TheTroglodyte

    Rob I agree with you. It is funny at how people are all pissed about Orton. If I could have guaranteed every Bronco fan we would be 6 – 2 to start the season but the two losses would have come back to back against Baltimore and Pittsburgh, there isn't a single fan that wouldn't have been happy with that.

    Brandstater has a real shot at being our qb of the future. A much better qb than Jay Cutler is or will be. He is semi-mobile. Has a great arm. Is smart and can stand in the pocket to take a hit. Most importantly he seems to be extremely coachable.

    Does that mean he will work out? Maybe he will maybe he won't. But the tools are all there.

    If we were to replace Orton, Brandstater IS our best choice. That being said, why in the hell would we do that? The running game is struggling and the offensive line is struggling. That is not how you break a rookie in by putting him in a horribly pressure filled situation to get us to the playoffs behind shotty line play, a struggling running game, and dialed up blitzes designed to confuse him that he has never had to face before.

    Leave Orton alone. Let McD figure it out because he will. And let Brandstater continue learning the game as a rookie should. He will get his shot to compete for the starting gig next year. He's getting great practice this year running the second team against our starting secondary in practice.

  • jonkrause

    Yeah I remember, that was a great drive, but even against the Steelers we were putting drives together, but we can't score passing touchdowns (or rushing for that matter) Orton needs to drive down the field, AND score.

  • jonkrause

    lol nice herc_rock

  • robtink242

    See the things Orton has problems with cannot be taught. I'm sure Mcd doesn't tell take the underneath every play. What ever happen in Chicago messed his head up. I think he's afraid of being bench or messing up. So he plays a safe game and cracks when the game is one dimensional. To be totally honest I don't know if the Broncos have time to fix his woes this season. Thats why i call on Bradstater against a poor team like Washington.

  • http://www.broncotalk.net Josh Temple

    Some say Penrose was a star it waiting. The Tom Brady of his day, if you will. Yep, a lot of history down that road….

  • dorothy

    hey i think orton deserves some respect he got us this far

  • postalmoose

    I love how now it is all Kyle Orton's fault. Time to check ourselves. The real problem is a piss poor offensive line that can't run block. The line is costing us by getting outphysicaled the last few games, period. No run game and teams know to blitz on passing downs and get in Orton's face. Now we know Orton isn't the most mobile guy so he isn't running out of the pocket but when teams blitz they cover man to man and Orton has no one to throw to. Teams are figuring out how to stop the offense and it isn't Ortin's fault. Until the line gets tough and starts blowing people off the ball and the running game gets in gear they will struggle. So get off Orton's back!

  • jacksback647

    Concerning Ortons major weaknesses ..yes, arm strength is weak, yes mobility is an issue, but his major weakness is the inability to shuffle down receivers and hit the open man!!! Orton is no Peyton Manning, but Manning has an average arm and no mobility but can read defensive coverage and spot and capitalize on the mismatches. Countless times Orton has locked on too early and either thrown into coverage he had no business doing or panicking under “phantom” pressure and throwing the ball away…and many of these situations there has been a tight end or a secondary reciever wide open. This is the NFL you dont make it without being physically gifted, what separates Orton is his short to medium passing accuracy, generally, and for his career pretty good. However I'm yet to see Orton throw the ball into coverage when the dbs arent set ,take a chance !!! Take Monday night Rothlesberger throws when Champs back is to him set up by the pump fake a throw if Champ were to turn around would have hit him in the chest but the timing was there and Rothlesberger wasn't afraid to throw the deep ball.. Mcdaniels needs to open up the offence period , perhaps a rough transition for Orton but at least we'll know whether he's the guy…

  • jonkrause

    Yes he does, considering the shoes he has I think he's actually done kinda pretty good.

  • robtink242

    most definitely agree with you. i saw a play when the Linebacker hit the A gap hard didn't went to far but Orton maid and stupid pass.

  • broncoNM

    My rule of thumb is if i ever agree with Woody its time for a routine check up…
    I think Orton would have to have a poor showing against the redskins and struggle at home against SD for this question to even hold water. For better or worse i think Orton is our QB this year and McD will make evaluations in the offseason and make a move if he thinks he needs to. I think the big question is “will Orton be our QB next year?”. It seems like there will be a lot of movement at the QB position next year (Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, Trent Edwards, Matt Liehart, Jake Delhomme, Jason Campbell, MIke Vick, Vince Young, David Gerrard, etc). Im not saying these guys are any better than Orton but McD may take a closer look at Orton and see if someone can handle the inermediate passing game with a better arm? We also have brandstater who has the physical tools and may just need 1-2 years to grasp the system and league. Although Simms has a better arm from what i have heard Orton has better accurracy which is really what this offense is based on. I have been impressed with Orton to this point but it is concerning that we dont even try to stretch the field… even off play action we usually only stretch the field 15+ yds. It is important to keep the opposing defense honest and go deep and get points quickly from time to time. But im not forgetting the TD Orton threw to Scheffler against SD… that was a well placed ball with pace. Im an Orton fan but in my heart of hearts i think we may need to persue an upgrade next year. Not to discredit the 6-2 start but in playoffs defenses like the ravens and pitt are the norm.

  • steeplebomb

    All good points. Its going to take a lot more than 2 mediocre games against top notch d units for McD to even consider a move. Realistically I see a win against the 'Skins (knock on wood), which should stave off this conversation at least for a while. I was really impressed with Tom B in the preseason. He's not there yet, but he's got major upside.

  • steeplebomb

    Exactly. You're offense can't rely on the quarterback to roll out and make plays every time the O line lays an egg. Its not consistent. You need a balance of run and pass plays. We had that the first 6 games and now we don't. Our run game has been completely shut down the last 2 games.

  • tywkent1

    Hi guys, I used to contribute to the defunct Denver paper. my name is tomk and I am probably the only Broncos supporter in Glasgow Scotland. I can't believe what I am reading. We have a new coach, a new system, new players etc. This all takes time to bed in. last year people were deluging the press with 'it will be 4-5 years to rebuild & be lucky to be 4&12. I think we are way ahead of schedule. Who would want us to be 2&6 and not 6&2. Leave Orton, the team and coaching staff alone & support them. We will hopefully end the season something like 12&4 and get to the playoffs. 8&8 wasn't good enough. So get behind our club and save the moaning for the bar. Remember, it must be discouraging if your own supporters slag you in public. My soccer team Rangers often describe the regular support of over 50000 as their 12th man. So Team Denver be positive! We see 3 or 4 games on TV each week. I haven't seeen a lot of super teams out there. Go Broncos and with a bit of luck on your sid who knows! ps Does anyone recognise the defense from last season? Cheers.

  • Tinman

    I say give Orton some props he still has a winning record. I want to know why isn't Hillis playing? Every one is down on Orton, but where has our running game gone. Hillis is a load and has fresh leggs let his Play!!

  • tinman1219

    I say give Orton some props he still has a winning record. I want to know why isn't Hillis playing? Every one is down on Orton, but where has our running game gone. Hillis is a load and has fresh leggs let his Play!!

  • johnelway

    The O-line is fine. The running backs are excellent. Denver may have some of the best young receivers in the league.

    The offensive problem is definitely “Ole Noodle Arm” Orton. He has completed less than 15% of his passes beyond 15 yards. That is a VERY telling stat. Orton can't stretch the field, therefore recent defenses have been playing 8 and 9 men in the box. NEWS FLASH no team can run against a stacked defense.

    Denver needs a quarterback that can throw beyond 15 yards and suddenly the running game will improve as well as the offensive scoring.

    Does anyone remember when Griese came in after Elway retired? Denver had great success running and passing because teams had to stay back an honor Elway's deep ball. Initially Griese did well until teams realized he couldn't connect deep. Suddenly the offense was anemic, couldn't run, couldn't pass short, and O-line broke down.

    Griese was no Elway and Orton is no Brady! McDaniels will never be able to open up his offense because Orton is too limited. As a result, the whole offensive attack collapses, Denver ends up going 3 and out consistently, and the defense eventually wears down.

    Solution to the problem: REPLACE ORTON! If Simms can't handle it then REPLACE Simms. Same story with Brandstater. Eventually McDaniels will find the QB to run his offense properly. Hopefully before our O-line, receivers, and running backs are shot.

  • steeplebomb

    You're oversimplifying it. The O line is not fine. Have you watched the last 2 games? Ben Hamilton has been a revolving door. Orton may have been getting lots of time earlier in the season, but he was running for his life the last two games. And our running backs are good but I wouldn't say excellent. The Broncos average 4.1 yards per carry, which is 18th best in the league. That's not excellent. Also, we had 27 rush yards against Pitt. I know they have the best run defense in the country but we should have gotten at least 3 times that number.

    I agree that Orton is limiting this offense. But it IS NOT ALL HIS FAULT. We know he can be effective in this offense because we've seen it! I would be just fine if the Kyle Orton from the NE game showed up every Sunday. If McD and his offensive philosophy have shown anything, its that talent at the QB position can be forged when given the right circumstances. Half of one season (really 2 games) is not enough time to judge with any certainty.

  • johnelway

    I would agree with you if Orton actually had more than one good game to his credit. I'll concede that Orton played well in the NE game but all of the other games he was very very average.

    He consistently misses receivers and seldom hits them in stride so that they can make a play. He has not had one accurate deep pass all season. Even when Denver was down against the steelers with only two minutes to go, Josh was calling screens, short passes, etc. not one shot deep, because he need it was pointless with Orton as his QB.

    Denver's running game needs a passing game to set it up. Orton holds on to the ball too long, he can't make his reads quickly and he locks onto the primary target. Teams only need to cover that one target well and Orton panics.

    Obviously Hamilton has not been good lately and Harris is injured but Orton actually complicates the situation by being a lame duck QB.

  • dogheadbrew

    We can gripe about Orton not outright winning games for us, but our last QB managed more INTs in one game than this one has this season and loose a close game to a mediocre team. Who cares how many yards and TDs he has. He's 6 and 2 with us. If he wins two more games this season, he has hit the high water mark set by the most optimistic of us preseason.

  • vince_mairne

    I think part of the problem is the play calling. Has McD given him the chance to throw deep? Last time I checked Orton doesn't call the plays. It's hard for me to believe that an NFL QB can't throw over 20-30 yards. Orton is doing fine. The defense is what is going to get us to the promise land!!!

  • Jackie

    I think Orton is a good game-manager type qb. He does what he needs to do to win games (well obviously except the last 2 weeks). Unfortunately, there are going to be days against great teams (like Pittsburgh) when managing the game is not enough. We need to find a breakout QB and draft him. I am not sure who at this point, but Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow come to mind.

  • DaTruth

    We have not scored more than 20 points (Browns and Raiders dont count) all season…Only one person is to blame when those dismal numbers are brought to light…THE QB….Can putting Simms at QB make our offense any worse, statistically speaking, we cant get much worse. It is at least worth a try.

  • steeplebomb

    Ultimately I agree. Ideally if Orton is to remain the starter his level of play will have to be higher than it has been. That being said, I do think that he has the potential to develop in this system. We'll see how things end up

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  • roshon2411

    O-line is an issue and has been for awhile. They’ve been piss poor in the red zone for years now and Cutler hid many of the flaws on pass protection.

    Having said that, Kyle Orton is clearly not the answer. I don’t think they should bench him but if the Broncos happen to lose to Washington…bring on Simms.

    Watching the offense, Orton seems to be holding the playcalling back. They opened up the playcalling with Simms and Brandstater more in the preseason than they have with Orton all year.

    I’m not big on stats but Orton has thrown two 300 yard games in his 41 career games. One against the lowly 0-16 Lions last year and and an OT game against the Pats this year. 300 yard games aren’t hard to come by in this league now-a-days especially when you throw the ball 40x a game.

  • Nbot

    Our o-line was built to be a “light” & mobile “zone blocking” unit….McD needs to use them as such. They are not built to do traditional run blocking, they need to “move”…

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