Why Try? F*** the Chargers, That’s Why

I wasn’t as angry at this game.. these Broncs honestly are just not that good.
I accepted that after the Faider game.

But.. to all of those Shanahan haters that come out of the woodwork.. we need to remember that we had 6 RB’s go on IR this year.. around 4 different safeties and all of our starting LB’s out.

No matter what happens Sunday.. neither team is going far in the playoffs. We are locked and loaded for next year.. a young team, 10 draft picks and half the injuries should take us far..

Merry Christmas!

Love the passion Kyle. We wanted a fight and we got one, in primetime. I just cannot believe this running situation, I am speechless. The exact moment I go “Pope seems like he can do somethings, alright” he is out. Defense needs to show some balls and Cutler needs to show the league who this team is. No more excuses, no more yapping about the Hochuli call, no more bitching and crying about Shan. This is it.

We have more then a few big wins on the road this year. I want to see some fight from the Broncos. F*** the Chargers.

Kyle, I can’t really believe I’m saying this, but, HERE HERE. I think you are incredibly right. Even if I wasn’t a Broncos fan I’d still hate the bitch ass Chargers. Go Broncos. Suck it up.

We don’t exactly deserve the division either…

I respect a lot of the players on that San Diego team. Even though LT seems to get injured the second the Chargers look like they’re losing, I still have a lot of respect for the guy. I think he has class.

But if there is one reason we should beat the Chargers, it is Rivers. Never before have I seen someone with so little respect fot the game. Taunting Cutler last year was enough, but when he did the same after the Colts game, the line was cross. You don’t do that to Peyton Manning, dumb***. You’re not even in his league. So please Broncos, beat the Chargers just so I can see the look on River’s face.

Beat the Chargers to make the playoffs, anything can happen.

Beat the Chargers so we can get some respect from the national media in primetime.

To be honest with you, I like it like this. Granted, I would give just about anything to have the division wrapped up before now. But it’s almost nice to know that if we win this game, the Hochuli call is irrelevant. You have your chance, Charger fans. If we win this, you can shut up.

So beat the Chargers, so we can finally wipe the smirk of River’s face, get San Diego fans to close their big mouths that are oddly similar to River’s, and so we can jump into the playoffs with some momentum and a little chip on our shoulder.

Beating the Chargers in a game like this would be a season maker for me. A chance in the playoffs is all we need, anything can happen. The experience for our rookies is invaluable. One more win Broncos! Then be competitve in the first round, and let the chips fall…WE CAN DO THIS!

That pretty much sums up my feelings: F*** the Chargers. Would you mind editing the post to put “F*** Phillip Rivers” in bold? Damn, I hate that guy.

wow. excuse making at its finest. “oh its the injuries fault” funny how when the Broncos win a game its “Despite the injuries and because Shanny is such a genius” Denver loses and its “oh this is a young team and full of injuries” come on!! stop the excuses!! before the injuries the team was terrible. especially the defense!! Champ is in there and the defense gives up 30 to Buffalo. are all of you politicians?? because you sure know how to pass the blame! stop with the excuses! this run of mediocrity is going to continue. HELLO?!??! anyone home?

Yeah good on you Kyle! F*** the Chargers. F*** the Bronco Haters. F*** everyone.

And merry christmas to you all.

I agree with PaulinVegas. The way I remember this season, other than “who the f*** is at running back now?”, will come down to Sunday’s game against the Chargers. And I fear that this Broncos team…particularly the Defense…has already given up. They’re too young, too inexperienced, and too beat up to make a statement now. These guys are getting scored on more than Paris Hilton at a Grey Goose party (heyooo…pop culture reference).

Still, what would this team be right now without Jay Cutler and the Shanahan offense? Quite frankly, they’d be the Lions. Here’s hoping to a defense-heavy draft….

The chargers lost games they should have won and so did the Broncos. I really believe that the team that deserves to win is the team who decides they want it the most. We all know the Broncos are capable of beating anyone. I just hope they believe it.

Our regular thanks go out to the resident Yanker, for his rant and making himself appear the constant, Thanks as always Kerry. As for me, I think we can do it, i agree that the Chargers are on a high that they didn’t really earn, they just fell into. I also think that we are not as bad as we looked over the last two weeks, but I have to say, win or loose this game i will be excited to see our draft picks for next year, and maybe see us make a big splash in the free agent market, not like in the past, but with one guy, one big time player, IMO that would be to go out and get Nnamdi Asomugha from the raiders, I know everyone keeps saying Haynesworth, but the Titans have big cap room just like us and they will lock him up. Nnamdi isn’t happy in Oakland and will be UFA this year, we can get this guy and maybe Rocky Bernard from Seattle, Big DT, shore up the rest with the Awesome drafts picks we will get and our D could be about as good as our top ranked O. the only thing we need to work hard to find will be a top tier RB (maybe a new strength coach or two) and we should be in solid shape.

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This works out for me pretty well. Mt sister got me tickets to this game for Christmas, and I would much rather go watch a game that is a must win for the Broncs. If they sat their starters to rest for the playoffs, it wouldn’t be as much fun. I am not expecting much, but if they can pull out a huge win in San Diego, I will be stoked!
If there was ever a game that we need to get to the QB it is this one. They need to punch Philip Rivers straight in his sh**-talking mouth as often as possible. Keep him guessing…throw some blitz packages at him, some line stunts, stop playing such generic defense.
Offense, if you can’t get a running game going, and the Chargers are dropping 7 and running free on the D-line, run some QB draws. Let Cutler be the running game too if needs be. Prater needs to get beat with bars of soap if he keeps missing field goals…or be replaced.
If Denver loses this game, they had better show up and at least make a contest out of it

I dont understand why Shannahan doesnt play scheffler more especially in the RED ZONE – he switches to 4 WR sets and it doesn’t work. WHY DO YOU HAVE A 6′-5″ guy that LB’s cant cover and is taller than most DB”S sitting on the bench? He is way under utilized.
Get him involved if you want to have any chance at beating SD

hey bucky,

the only morons are the ones who continue to blindly follow a medicore head coach right over the edge. you question my knowledge?? if you knew anything you would already know Al Davis has stated that Nnamdi Asomugha will be franchised. thus he wont be a UFA. duh!! and were not as bad as we loked over the last two weeks huh?? lets see..Delhomme torched us, they put 8 in the box and the Panthers ran wild. Trent Edwards hasnt played in a month and torches the defense. not as bad as we look huh? no we look worse. and you say shore up the defense with “awesome draft picks” HAHAHAHAHA. forget who is making those picks?? yeah Shanahan is doing that. hasnt had an “awesome draft pick” since Al Wilson. but now he is gonna have an “awesome Draft”??? PPPFFFTTTT! this is the same coach that traded for Dewayne Robertson over Shaun Rogers. who by the way is in the Pro Bowl. try posting some fact. simple drivel makes you the moron.

Can someone just ask the Broncos players to stop saying how much better a team they are than their winning opponents? First, it’s a little late to be saying it and, second, whether they are or not, they still lost.

Why hate on Rivers? Do you guys know exactly what was said betweehn Rivers and Cutler? For all we know, Cutler could have been running his mouth all game too. I like the fire of both QB’s. Rivers is actually a standup guy, he just has a great passion for the game he’s been playing all his life. Nothing wrong with talking smack during the game and to heckling fans. It’s an emotional sport for god sakes. At least he’s not a primadonna egotistical cancer like T.O.

Game in SD will be a good one, but I don’t see Denver winning.

Awesome draft pick in ten years he says…he’ll be here all season folks….

Since Al Wilson Karry?? please man, have you forgot WHY the broncos are in the place they are right now? Eddie Royal, Peyten Hillis??? ring a bell??

I hate the chargers and I hope we embarrass their ass in the backyard. I’m still so pissed that we lost that game. I was there FREEZING MY BALLS OFF… I can’t believe this crap. We looked so good after that opening drive. F*@#

I’m curious about something. If the Raiders and Chiefs are such cream puffs, how did the Broncos manage to lose to them by three and two touchdowns respectively?

Also, I’m curious why you think a team with a negative point differential would be more respectable as the division’s representative in the playoffs than a team that should they win on Sunday will only be 8-8 rather than 9-7 because of a blown call by a referee in an earlier head-to-head contest.

You seem very angry and perhaps that’s what clouded your judgment with regard to these and myriad other wrongheaded statements you made.

Now I’m pumped up Kyle!!!!! Whohooo go Broncos!

so tired of hearing all the excuses: we re young, injured, blahblah. what team is old? what team hasnt had injuries? pats arent making any excuses.

as far as qbs go i compared stats and its not even close.. rivers superior in every stat but total yds; and cutler seems to do just as much yapping as rivers.

in the end its all moot, even if the donkeys made it into playoffs you have to be on some serious meds to think they have a chance of beating indy, steelers, or my pats…remember 41-7 hahahaha

ps.

wishing all you an unhappy holiday in that: smog filled; crime ridden; 2nd rate town in the middle of nowhere….and bolts are going to give cutler and friends the beat downhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

This is highly inappropiate and overall extremely profane, however it might be the most accurate description of Philip Rivers… possibly ever. Courtesy of Drew Magary at deadspin:

I watched the Chargers play last week, and I think there’s a highly underreported story going on in the NFL this year. And that is that Philip Rivers is a douchebag. Big douchebag. HUGE douchebag. He’s the kind of fuckhead that wears Nantucket reds to a cocktail party and then pinches your sister’s tits. He’s the kind of shit-eating cockgobbler that throws Bacardi Silver peepee parties with JJ Redick. He’s the kind of guy who ends up working at an investment bank and spending his weekends beating his girlfriend as she tries to put herself through graduate school. I know the type. I live in Washington, okay? There are loads of these douches here, overcrowding the bars, rocking visors and running the Federal government.

Rivers is the kind of douchebag that, quite literally, stomps his feet when things don’t go his way during the game. As Ufford once said, “He looks like the kind of asshole who treats waitresses like shit, then stiffs them.” We should make this prick an honorary lacrosse player. Norv gets his fair share of blame for what’s going on in San Diego. But Rivers deserves equal ire. IRE, I say! You’re ruining LT with your inaccuracy and your cattiness, Rivers! And I’m calling you out!

In fact, I’m gonna give Rivers a new nickname. Rivers, from now on, your name is fucking Marmalard. Don’t like it? Well, go cry to the officials about it. It’s all you do anyway. Fucking Marmalard. Maybe you and Jimmy Clausen can go bowling sometime.

Why would anyone think that San De-f*****igo would win the m*****f*****g AFC West?????? Thats f#@kin stupid! All you dumb@#s

Good Kyles not f&#ked up with Charger-f#@*&g mania

I could not agree more. I hate phillis. Always will.

Broncos dont have a chance… EEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Norval “nutsack” Turner is the head coach of the chargers. This guy is a born loser. That is what he does. Everywhere he goes. Norval has taken a preseason super bowl contender to a 7-8 record. Why should we be scared of these guys.
This game could go either way but i will never predict any team coached by Norval to blow us out.

You guys are a bunch of idiots. I have been a 20-year bronco fan. This team sucks. Cutless sucks. Shenanagan is a loser. Chump is old and slow. I am sick of this team. Rivers is a damn good QB. We got a cocky, overrated, intercept-throwing punk. Hate to say it: Chargers will destoy us again because they own us and the AFC West.

Wow is that the best defence all the dolts fans can muster for that emotionaly unstable Q.B. Cutler talks smack to??? what ???? How many times has Jay run on the field of play to taunt another player or had words with a Fan,coach,or better yet needed to be restrainend from jaw jacking a Ref. L.T. even hates him,not as much as I do but still! So admit the facts he mave have some tallent but he is an emotionally stunted petulant child! Next how sweet will it be to go into S.D. and lay a beat down on them.(and watch Rivers have yet another on field tantrum) Im happy it came to this now the only thing thay had to hold onto for redemption of this season was ed H’s bad call now when its all said and done thay wont even have that AWSOME!!!!!!!!!

How about cry me a Rivers? got a ring 2 it!

Richard…did you not watch the week 2 game? Were there not 2 more chances to stop the broncos offense AFTER the bad call? You charger fans all hold on to a single play, but had the call gone your way, and SD won that game…would it be because the chargers are better? Absolutely not…you would have won because Jay messed up, not because of anything that a chargers player did. The better team won the game in week 2. The same can be said of the outcome of Sundays game. The better team on Sunday will win.

I am a die hard Bronco fan. But seriously. We suck. Jay Cutler is only 26 and he already has a double chin. He looks like a chubby little rich kid. Phillip Rivers should have got the Pro bowl. I got season tickets to watch the broncos lose all the time. they cant seal the deal. And quite frankly, I think the chargers are gonna kick their Turdholes,!Its better than me shelling out another 500 bucks to watch INDY do it at invesco. SCREW THE 2008 BRONCOS. WE SUCK!!!!

coloradocutler hahaha what a douche. maybe i should try an post in hebrew. iam a pats fan..hence boston duhh!!! who just happens to hate the donkeys, and their delusional fans. trust me every afc team fans want you to win sunday. we would much rather face donkeys than bolts. donkeys have a very good passing game the rest of the team sucks, and you all know it. thats not going to scare anyone in playoffs. last time i checked i didnt hear rivers claiming to be better than fouts, and at least he has been to the playoffs. cutler is a punk; marshall is a thug; and the rest of the team besides for champ is mediocre. like i said 41-7 says it all

Ive been a Bronco fan since the 70s. Elway was great. But seriously. we dont deserve the playoffs.
Why set ourselves up for more dissappointment? Rivers is a prick , true, buts lets face it. If we could trade Cutler for him, we would!!!
Also, really, we dont deserve this division. At least I think SD could get somewhere in the division. We cant even beat 2-11 teams at home.

p.s. donkey fans should be the last one’s talking about deserving anything. you lose to the RAIDERS!!!! at home by 21hahahahahah. your pathetic doesnt deserve to go anywhere..bunch of losers. again your team SUCKS, none of your gimpy rbs were any good anyway,and denver is a craphole for town. enjoy living in yesteryear..GO PATS

Wow, Kerry i think you need to get your head checked, it is not possible to Franchise a player two years in a row, and since all Franchised Nnamdi last year, I’m guessing he’ll be a strait up UFA. i think you’ve already been beaten down on the rest of your brilliant points, so I’ll leave you with that.

Just in case your stunned by your own genius.

http://oak.scout.com/2/730647.html

A player can and has been slapped with the franchise tag multiple years in a row.

Seattle’s Walter Jones was franchised three or four years in a row.

It’s just these days, most players ‘say’ they won’t sign the contract unless the team includes a clause saying they won’t get franchised again.

And no more insults to other commenters. Period. It’s against the Comments Policy.

How in the world do people really call themselves Broncos fans when they are actually ROOTING for the Chargers?! Please, someone explain.

You would trade Cutler for Rivers? Are you kidding me? Go be a Chargers fan then. Cutler has been asked to do more than any other quarterback in the NFL this year.

Whatever dude, tell that to the yankee that keeps slammin every person on this board, im just postin in response to that great guy, and all im saying with the franchise is that it wont be possible, Nnamdi aint happy there and players just don’t do the franchise twice, especially for the Raiders. I’m Out.

F%#k the Chargers indeed. I like it.

I will have my D-Will jersey on and rep it with pride. The Broncos will win because I don’t think they have a chance. The rollercoaster season ride continues.

All Ready!

For everbody that is bashing excusses… You might want to a take a look at the Injuried Reserve List. 8….yes 8…. running backs.

You can’t expect cutler to do it all by himself. I wish he could but he cant. You need a running game.

And everybody in here that is rooting for the chargers needs to stop coming to this site and littering then comments. Incase you missed it when you typed it in it’s “BRONCO”TALK.NET

He’s right on one part. F*** the Chargers for winning divisional games against opponents that we should have beaten. The Broncos (since they are obviously the better team) wouldn’t be in this predicament if they could have beat those two. Let’s compare the other wins:

Chargers:
Teams they beat by more than one score:
Jets, Patriots, Raiders (twice), and Buccaneers
Teams the beat by less than one score:
Chiefs (twice)
Lost by less than one score:
Panthers, Broncos, Dolphins, Saints, Steelers, Colts, Falcons (all of which are playoff teams)
Lost by more than one score:
Bills

Broncos:
Teams they beat by more than one score:
Raiders and Jets
Teams the beat by less than one score:
Chargers, Saints, Buccaneers, Browns, Falcons, and Chiefs
Lost by less than one score:
Jaguars and Bills
Lost by more than one score:
Chiefs, Patriots, Dolphins, Raiders, and Panthers

So while he’s screaming F*** the Chargers, hopefully, he’s f***ing himself in the process.

F*** the Broncos, that’s why.

F*** Denver’s lucky break by Ed Hochuli blowing a whistle, and winning (it really doesn’t matter at this point anyhow: we’d both be 8-7 heading into this week…a moot point now)

F*** Denver’s pathetic fans and their wide receivers proclomation that its “their division”

F*** Denver’s whiny-as-hell, blame-it-on-everyone-else attitude QB and his wide receiver who slipped on a McDonalds wrapper (yeah, right…)

F*** Denver’s loud mouth wide reciever, chop blocking punk linemen, ex-Charger loudmouth McCree and rat-faced coach

F*** Denver’s overrated ofense that was exposed later in the year as a fraud (10 points against the Raiders?…7 points against the Patriots?…puhleeezzzeee!!!)

F*** Denver period. They have no one but themselves to blame for their meltdown. They proclaimed themselves unbeatable after a 4-1 start..yet here the Chargers sit, peaking at the right time. I’d rather back into the playoffs than blow a three game lead, not make it and then have to watch from the couch…again.

Don’t F*** Denver’s 8-7 record that would lose the AFC West at .500 with a loss. This division deserves better, but too bad, thats just the way it played out this year..

F*** San Diego’s wins over the Chiefs and Raiders that give them the tiebreaker edge in the division while the Broncos beat better teams in the Saints and Falcons instead…(I’ll leave this as is…its too funny to ignore)

F*** the Broncos, their pathetic barrell wearing fans, their rat-faced coach, their punk wide receiver and their quarterback who should’ve been cast in Dumb and Dumber. F*** ‘em all!!

god almighty enough the excuses. none, NONE of those 8 rbs were better than avg. its not like they lost baary sanders for the yr.
cutler couldnt hold elways jock..elway was the team, and took them to sb multiple times.

qb rating pct yds y/a tds ints

cutler 87.0 61.9 4210 7.4 24 16

rivers 104. 64.8 3802 8.3 32 11

cutler: 0 playoff wins, 0 div.championships
rivers: 2 time defending div. winner afc championship game

give me a break.hahahahh not even close

KYLE: leader of the delusional”no qb asked to do more” really? how about peyton with addai being out?how about big ben having parker, and mendenhall out for a good part of season? how about whomever is playing qb for seahawks any given week? how about flacco and that miserable offense?
give it a rest Kyle!! cutler is a good qb, with a very good o-line, and excellent receivers nothing more. he is not even in the top ten.
and damn sure is no elway, and never will be!!!

I am a Broncos fan but they are to soft this year.

qb s i ‘ d rather have than cutler:

1. peyton
2. brees
3. romo
4. warner
5. eli
6. big ben
7. rivers
8. mcnabb
9. ryan
10.cassel
injured or not: brady,palmer,and hasselbeck

hey boston does spygate mean anything to you

hey boston the patriots are heading for a first round loss

Matt Cassell is not good its just the system

Boston…your argument is riddled with holes. Flacco and Big Ben both have defenses that can bail out the offense on every series…the Seahawks, their record speaks for itself. Peyton Manning didn’t have Addai for much of the season, but he had Rhodes every week…a solid backup that was there every week. Cutler had a new back every week. With zero threat of a running game, defense could drop back as many defenders as they wanted and rush their Linemen without worrying about gap responsibility. With all of this, the broncos have won more games than the chargers thus far, and Cutler’s stats are pretty close to Rivers’ except he has thrown for more yards, and won more games. Rivers had a running threat, giving him a better opportunity to make throws against fewer defensive backs by freezing the linebackers. I guarantee that if the Broncos had a running threat throughout the season, he would far eclipse Rivers’ stats.

hey thirdandlong, donkeys are not going to playoffs!! 6 sbs,3sb wins this decade, 16-0 reg. seasonwith no cameras, or 41-7 this yr with our backup qb; does that mean anything to you!!!!

thirdandlong how appropriate.it is what the donkeys are going to be facing all night long sunday

hey thirdandlong does chop block mean anything to you?

hey thirdandlong the broncos aren’t even going to the playoffs

jchase, I hate to call you out, but your argument is riddled with holes as well. If Rivers had a running threat, then why do the Charger have the 28th ranked rushing offense, and the Broncos have the 12th? The Broncos also have more rushing TD’s than the Chargers. Anyone who has actually watched the Chargers this year knows that they aren’t stacking the box against LT anymore, and he is definitely not the threat of days gone by.

Then again, I guess if my team was choking the season away thanks to my turnover prone QB, I would be trying to justify it any way I could as well. Coming from a Chargers fan, calling another QB turnover prone says a lot too (and yes, you can look it up, Cutler does have more TO’s than Rivers throughout their careers).

jchase, god almighty enough with the excuses!! calling rhodes a solid backup?? anyone cut by the raiders is not a solid anything. as far stats go rivers has a far superior td/int ratio ..quit being such a homer. if you are going to make a point dont be blind to the facts .

fyi: w-l most important stat:

cutlers overall record 17-19
rivers overall record 32-15

cutler vs bolts 1-3

rivers vs broncos 4-1

w/l s are what matter and rivers kills cutler in that category..but iam sure you have an excuse for that as well.

the bottom line the broncos have been an avg team since elway retired get over it!! quit being like your sisterteam the raiders, and living in the past.

jchase, cutler has very good wrs,te,and oline. ben had no rbs,horrible o-line,avg wrs, hella tough schedule, and still only lose 4. again any team that loses at home to the raiders by 21 shouldnt be in playoffs!!!

Hey Denver! The Mets just called. They’d like to learn how to choke as well as you do.

Hey Denver, the Mets just called. They want to learn how to choke as well as you do.

I thank you for the entertainment – that was awesome. Here are my responses to each section that incredibly unintelligent post:

“I was as upset, angry, disappointed, sad, confused, and just plain pissed at Sunday’s 23-30 loss to the Bills as any of you out there. How the Broncos can collapse like they have the past two weeks is beyond me.”

How could that be beyond you? The Broncos are the most overrated team in the NFL. That’s why they are 4-11 against the spread this year. Their wins vs the jets and falcons make people forget how bad their defense is. Take away an ed hochuli whistle, a non call in which winborn lined up about 20 yards offside, and a huge winslow meltdown, and the broncos are at 5-10. I wont even mention some of their other games. The chargers, on the other hand, are about a combined 60 seconds (full of freak plays and bad calls) away from being 12-3. Bottom line, the broncos are perhaps the worst 8-7 team in the history of the NFL, while the chargers are perhaps the best 7-8 team in the history of the NFL, and this will be exposed on national TV this sunday.

“It’s hard to even care about the team after such an emotional letdown. The Broncos were up 13-0 in the second quarter against a team boasting a 1-7 record in their past 8 games. Suddenly, Buffalo’s offense could not be stopped. They scored 30 points to our 10 and the Broncos didn’t do their part on a freezing cold Fan Appreciation Day.”

It’s not an emotional meltdown – the broncos are just that bad. And they couldnt stop the buffalo offense because the bronco defense is the most atrocious thing I’ve ever witnessed.

“In response, most fans have thrown in the towel. Going into San Diego and beating the Chargers in their stadium, at face value, seems like an insurmountable task. It’s a match against two teams going in different directions.”

Good. It IS an insurmountable task. No sense in having any false hope.

“But I awoke this morning with a renewed vigor. A renewed focus. The Denver Broncos will go into San Diego and beat the Chargers on their own turf and keep the AFC West lead they’ve held all 16 weeks this season. And you know why you should care?

F*** the Chargers, that’s why.”

What a very intelligent argument. The broncos are going into SD and winning b/c…..”F*** the chargers!” And I think we all realize the series of extraordinary events that have taken place throughout the season that have allowed such a crappy team to hold the AFC West for “all 16 weeks this season”.

F*** San Diego’s tired excuse of Ed Hochuli blowing a whistle, and then beat ‘em anyway.

I don’t know what you mean by, “and then beat em anyway”. Of course you guys beat us after that, you were given a free pass.

To refresh your memory – 2nd down…cutler rolls out to the right and is about to throw into double coverage. Trying to stop himself from throwing an INT, the ball slips out of his hands and goes BACKWARDS. Now, it was clearly a fumble, as the ball slipped out of his hands when his arm was moving backward. But even if he did THROW it, it doesn’t matter, because the ball went BACKWARDS so it’s still a live ball, of course. Tim Dobbins of SD runs up and is about to scoop the ball up – Hochuli, because he had the Broncos at +1, blows his whistle. He ruled it an incomplete pass – HAHAHAHHAHA.

The chargers challenged, and Hochuli overturned the incomplete pass to a fumble, but b/c he blew the whistle a split second before dobbins picked it up, the ball was declared down at the 10 yard line. Giving the broncos 2 plays to score on a shitty Teddy Cottrell’s runned defense experiencing its first game without Shawne Merriman. They of course go for two, as all they had to do was gain 2 yards, and they did it. 49-48 broncos win.

Had the call been made correctly, the Chargers would have won the game, and right now, the Chargers would be the clinched AFC West Champions.

People claim we should have stopped them on 3rd and 4th down, or the 2 pt conversion, but that is flawed logic, as we already stopped them on 2nd down. It’s crazy to ask a team to stop a team twice. Imagine how high scoring every NFL game would be if the defense had to stop the offense twice on each possession.

That was a huge game because it was divisional and it was against the 2 teams that were going to be battling for the division, as the chiefs and raiders never had any chance.

It’s not a “tired excuse” its just one of the MANY reasons why the broncos currently hold a lead on the AFC West. But even after all of that, it’s going to be un-done on sunday, and the true best team will prevail.

“F*** San Diego’s fair weather fans and their pathetic blackout extensions.”

Haha – didn’t that 11 degree windchill suck on sunday? Sucks to be you!

“F*** San Diego’s whiny-as-hell superstar running back and his performance-hindering toe injury.”

LT has admitted for the last month that his toe has not bothered. Also take note his SURGERY on his knee. And if you’re calling him whiny b/c of that NE/SD playoff game….PLEASE. Marlon McCree intercepted the ball on fourth down (which would have ended the game), but he began to run the other way (unbelievably stupid) and of course he fumbled the ball, giving the ball right back to NE with a first down, allowing Brady to have a 2nd chance and win. Then, a few patriots gathered at the center of the SD field and made fun of shawne merriman. A classless act by the cheaters. Someone asked him about it in the press conference, and he stated his opinions about it – basically that it was B.S., and I agree. That soundbite got replayed over and over and over again, causing the weak minded to believe that LT is “whiny”. It’s called “propaganda”.

“F*** San Diego’s loud mouth quarterback, for all the Broncos players and NFL fans he’s ever disrespected by pointing his mouth in their direction.”

The only player Rivers has ever disrespected is Jay “I’m better than ELWAY” Cutler. Who knows who said what first, but given Cutler’s assholish attitude, I’m thinking he started it. Rivers has a great attitude and he is a great leader. Can’t say the same for Cutler, who looked like he was about to cry yesterday when his headset in his helmet went out for a few plays.

“F*** San Diego’s overrated defense that was exposed this year as a one-man wrecking crew.”

HA HA HA HA HA HA …. did a BRONCO fan just call out the San Diego defense? The charger defense is not bad, especially since Ron Rivera took over for the idiot Ted Cotrell in the middle of the season. It’s middle of the pack, 17th in points given up. This is part of the reason why the Chargers are going to rape the broncos on sunday in front of the entire nation.

“F*** San Diego’s 7-8 record that would win the AFC West at .500 with a win. This division deserves better, and if the Broncos win, they’ll give it a winner at 9-7.”

Can you say….FLAWED LOGIC? I’ve already discussed what has gone into SD’s record. I’ve also discussed what has gone into the broncos record – so F*** the broncos bullshit 8-7 record. How can you even claim this division “deserves better” than an 8-8 winner when the broncos, chiefs, and raiders are all so unbelievably bad?

“F*** San Diego’s wins over the Chiefs and Raiders that give them the tiebreaker edge in the division while the Broncos beat better teams in the Saints and Falcons instead.”

HA HA HA HA HA…..Again, FLAWED LOGIC. When we beat the broncos on sunday, our h2h record vs. each other will be 1-1. So, to decide the divisional champion, shouldn’t the next tie breaker be DIVISIONAL RECORD? SD has taken care of the division this year, with our only divisional loss being to hochuli. So don’t we deserve to be divisional champs? How could you calculate a record vs “better teams” tie breaker? What exactly qualifies as a “better team”? You guys beat the saints and falcons…woo hoo! The falcons are 10-5 and the saints are 8-7! hahahahaha. You only beat the saints b/c of that non-call offside too.

What about the chargers? They SMASHED the jets and the patriots on national television. They just smashed TB in the clutch. The colts only beat them b/c the refs had money on their side. They lost by 1 point to the steelers. The chargers have beaten better teams than denver has, and their losses have all been extremely close. Cant say the same about denver, who were BLOWN OUT by the CHIEFS, patriots, RAIDERS, and panthers.

“If you can’t scream for the Broncos after yesterday’s game, scream for the opponent of the most undeserving-but-could-be-a-playoff team in the NFL. The Chargers beat the Raiders and the crumbling Bucs to get back in the mix. They don’t deserve this.”

Again, can you say….FLAWED LOGIC? How are the chargers undeserving when the broncos have the most fake record in the NFL? And who cares who we beat the “get back into the mix”, the fact is, we did win the games that were on our schedule to get back in, right? We stepped up when it mattered, right? What about the broncos? All you had to do was beat buffalo in your own house, but you couldn’t. If you couldn’t do that, then YOU don’t deserve shit.

“So it comes down to this – the winner of this game wins the AFC West Championship and a home playoff game. There isn’t a Broncos fan out there who wouldn’t have jumped at this opportunity four months ago. The Broncos have been the better team for 16 weeks this season. We have one more week to put the nail in coffin. Let’s get it done.”

Correction: you have had the better record for 16 weeks, not the better TEAM. And you will soon find that out on sunday.

Prediction:

Chargers: 48
Broncos: 24

Again, Boston…Ben had THE NUMBER 1 DEFENSE in the NFL to bail them out of a lot of games

Hey Kevin: Go post your 35 paragraph posts on your crappy Bolts blog site. Nobody’s reading that thing.

jchase, again i ve been fair in my assessment of the broncos, they havent had to deal with an extraordinary amount of adversity yet they have been mediocre during the cutler era. as bronco fans i expect you to hate your rivals; but that doesnt change the fact i have yet to hear One!! empirical fact that supports your elevated view of cutler/ broncos. i would love to know your reasoning in believing he is better than rivers? one stat, w-l record, achievement…anything!!

i hate the manning brothers, but iam not trying to convince their fans that they suck

F*** the Broncos, cause I said so.

F*** the Donks with their 8 and 8 record at this point.

F*** this guy, talking about fair weather fans. Say it to my face and you get nocked the F*** out biatch!!!

F*** the Donks and their RB’s. LT is still on the grid iron, where are your running backs? “IR” bunch of pansies!!!

F*** the Donks and their Gomer Pyle pansie a** diabetic, pathetic, don’t talk trash to me cause i’ll cry QB.

F*** the Donks and their college looking in all aspects of the game team.

F*** the Donks if they think they deserve to go to the playoffs with their weak a** team that shows no signs of improvement, except in the loss column.

F*** the Donks with their crying a**es, we played tougher teams and we don’t get to go. STFU you pansi m-F***er.

The Chargers are going to win and the only thing the Donk fans can say is F*** the Chargers. Record talks and losers walk. Start walking Donk fans.

F*** the Donks!!!

Boston – While your argument that Rivers is better than Cutler is backed up by several stats, it is still your opinion that Rivers is a better QB. In my opinion Cutler has far more upside and I think Rivers won’t even be mentioned in the same breath as Cutler once both of their careers are over. Again, that’s my opinion, based on watching both players play week in & week out. Cutler has mad potential and once he learns to reign it in a bit and not throw as many picks he will be an elite QB in this league.

PS Boston – I do have the 1 achievement that you are asking for that indicates that Cutler is better than Rivers this year, Cutler is a Pro Bowl QB this year, while Rivers is not. As you requested, there’s your 1 achievement.

Give Cutler as much time in the League as a starting QB, and you will see the difference. While Rivers is a decent QB he is an a**hole as a person…from chargers players mouth, as well as my dad who does some work with the Chargers organization as a youth sports ambassador to the chargers. If you kept Brees you would have won a SB by now. Rivers seems to have peaked as a player, and he is better than a lot of QBs in the league, He just doesn’t have near the potential as Cutler. I believe if you look it up, Cutler has more 4th quarter comebacks, and with the game on the line, I would take Cutler over Rivers

broncoholic, the pro bowl response isnt worth a rebuttal.
jchase,as far as giving “cutler as much time” they both started in 06, rivers has about 10 games on him. at the end of your 3rd yr, inexperience doesnt fly anymore.
4th qtr comebacks: the fact that cutler only has 17 wins total; i find that claim highly dubious. where can i find that? if true doesnt that just mean that broncos were behind more often..because we know which qb has by far better winning %.

i moved to del mar(so cal) a few yrs back since ive been here the local media, charger players(lt included) all say that rivers is great teammate,plays beyond his yrs, tough, family man,never in trouble, trash talking in misconstrued meant to be all in fun…blahblah. m
my neighbor plays basketball @rec with him,gates,and other chargers. he says that rivers is super competitive,but totally chill; teammates seem to like him.

it seems this yr. hasnt talked, complimentary of his opponents, but still enthusiastic on field much like favre; and everyone loves him.

i have also heard that cutler pouts on sidelines, is surly, and extremely arrogant even in college.

the point is that rivals are going to hate each other, but that is no reason deny the facts. as pats fan we hate peyton not jp losman. why, because we know that peyton can beat us. it would be pretty stupid as pats fans to say that peyton/colts suck.

so you can say that you hate rivers/ bolts. just dont try and convince me that they suck, and that cutler/broncos are sooo much better. you are only kidding yourselves. cant wait for game..merry christmas!!

p.s. arguing potential is a circular arguement, so its pointless. time will tell. again happy holidays

If you re-read my last post, I didn’t say that Rivers or the chargers suck. In fact in a recent post, I mentioned that Denver can’t count on the Chargers to lose simply because of the amount of talent they have. Time will certainly tell on who is the better player…and Sunday will be a pretty good indicator. Cutler had 5 game winning/tying drives in the 4th quarter in his first 11 starts. He has 4 more this year, may well have been 5 more if stokely held on to the ball on a perfect pass on 4th down against the Bills.

hey boston, speaking of choking dogs, how’d the Pats do in the SB last year. That whole going 16-0 thing means absolutely nothing. The Pats got punked on the biggest stage in NFL history. It’s also pretty pathetic that the Miami Dolphins are gonna win the AFC east over the Pats this year… they were 1-15 last year right? Also, Brady will never be the same. His career is over & he will always be remembered for choking in the SB last year.

p.s. how’d the Celtics do today? Oh yea, the Lakers punked them.

do you guys realize that Cutler has no defense, no running backs, maybe one or two good lineman and two DECENT lineman?….All games lies in Cutlers hands. It shows what kind of QB Cutler is. Think where they would be today with a decent D, and a decent RB. Cutler is twice the QB Rivers will ever be!!! He throws like a girl, and cries like one too….Big girls dont cry…come on!!!

The Donks?? ha wow

I can guarantee that if you took away merriman, Tomlinson, Turner, and Sproles for a whole season, Phillip Rivers and the Chargers would not have been 14-2 and Rivers would not have near the win percentage he has now. That is a stat that has to be placed on the whole team, not just a quarterback.

Gotta love lively inter-division debate

SCERW PHILP RIVERS THE BRONCOS MIGHT NOT MAKE IT FAR IN THE PLAYOFFS BUT WHEN THEY BEAT THE CHARGERS I CAN’T WAIT TO THE LOOK ON RIVERS FACE. AS FOR THE BRONCOS COACHING STAFF SOME OF THEM HAVE TO GO AND DRE BLY CAN GO WITH THEM… BAILY AND WOODYARD CAN’T DO IT ALL ON D….

WHOEVER SAID F— THE DONKS ARE DUMB LT ON THE GRID IRON.THEN EXPLAIN WHY LT ALWAYS GETS HURT WHEN THE CHARGERS ARE LOOSING LT IS WHINING OVER A SPRAINED TOE.COME ON STOP BEING A PUSI. IM A BIG BRONCO FAN SO HOPEFULLY THE BRONCOS WILL WIN AND SHUT RIVERS BIG MOUTH UP.I HOPE THAT THE BRONCOS BLITZ FROM EVERY ANGLE AND POP RIVERS IN THE FACE.AND NOW THE CHARGERS CAN START WHINING THERE WAY HOME.AND THE BRONCOS ARE KNOWN 4 WINNING BIG GAMES ON THE ROAD AND THE CHARGERS DONT DESERVE IT THEY WON AGANST THE CHIFS AND THE RAIDERS AND THE RAIDERS PLAY LIKE THEY HAVE A EYE PATCH ON BOTH EYES SO F— RIVERS AND LT I RESPECT SPROILS BECAUSE HES NOT A CRY BABY LIKE LT AND NOT COCKY LIKE RIVERS.

IM A BIG BRONCO FAN BUT I HATE RIVERS LT IS A CRY BABY BUT I RESPECT HIM AND IF UR A REAL BRONCO FAN U WILL NOT GIVE UP ON THEM YOU NEVER KNOW OUR BRONCOS CAN PULL OUT SOME UP SETS AND GO FAR WHAT IM SAYIN IS TO NEVER GIVE UP ON THE BRONCOS.GO BRONCOS.DO IT 4 UR FANS AND CUTLER DO IT JUST SO U CAN SEE THE LOOK ON RIVERS FACE.GO BRONCOS DONT LET UR FANS DOWN.

who ever is BOSTON better check there self 10 qb’s i ratter have than cutler its only because of cutler that we have won any games so BOSTON must not nknow about football

WHO EVER BOSTON IS NEEDS TO SHUT THE HELL UP

LOL, i feel like iam arguing with 12yr olds, or maybe none of you finished HS.

Michael, ” iam a big bronco fan (but) i hate rivers” WTF is that hahahaha. all in caps hahahaha.

kayla, you must be michael’s one tooth girlfriend. ” chargers dont deserve it they won aganst the chifs and the raiders” all in caps againhahahaha
raiders 31-10,chiefs 33-19, Patriots 41-7, panthers 30-10..and you guys have been out scored. do you really want to talk about not deserving?

boston=craphole city, are you kidding?? do you really want to bring up the pats. i think pats might be remembered for: 3 sb wins in 4 yrs; 4 sb in 7yrs; having the 2 longest winning streaks; perfect regular season; and again a 41-7 beat down of the donkeys this yr. with our 2nd string qb

on a personal note boston is world renowned for:its academics( iam a northeastern alum); cultural center; sports teams etc.. what the hell is denver known for?? crime, elevation, pollution!!!

jchase, come on; i expect better than that. yes if bolts lost all those rbs, and merriman in 1 season they wouldnt be as good; but who on the donkeys are you comparing them to? out of all 7 rbs i cant think of 1 who would make the raiders backfield, and definitely not the bolts!!! iam sure the chargers are really glad they dont have hillishahaha what a friggin joke!!! broncos are pathetic just like their fans.go take your insulin you bunch of idiots; come back with something other than excuses

Boston, don’t get your panties in a bunch because SOME fans mar stupid arguments. I am not comparing individual players, I am simply stating that if Rivers didn’t have people in other skill positions that he could rely on, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Even with your university education, you can’t argue with that logic. I’m not saying the Broncos are the best team in the league, nor am I saying the Chargers are the worst. I am just defending who I believe is a better QB than Rivers, and you keep giving me loaded stats that have far more to do with the team than just the QB. Don’t be an idiot yourself and bunch all fans in with a few morons. I may not have a college degree, but I have a very high IQ and plenty of football knowledge.

Boston… please. Everyone knows that Boston is known for baseball, beans, and dbags. Massholes to be exact. Seeing how my whole family is from Glouchester I would know a thing or two. I am not calling everyone that is from Boston a dbag, but seeing how you went to Northeastern you probably have encountered a your fair share roaming around the city.

The city is just like any other really. It’s like NYC’s red headed step child to be honest. The T is possibly the worst public transportation system to be created and this is the city of the Big Dig where speaking of.
Do not discredit Peyton Hillis. He was the first back to rush over 100 yards on the Jets and if you would actually talk time to look at footage of him I’m sure you would agree that he was the best of all the lost RBs that year.

Rivers vs. Cutler is going to turn into a age old debate so it’s practically useless. One can argue that Cutler is naturally more talented with arm strength and mobility. Yet Rivers makes the smarter reads and throws far fewer picks. Cutler has better weapons, but Rivers stats are inflated because can dump the ball one yard to Sproles and he’ll turn it into a 76 yard touchdown. Cutler has about one less year than Rivers when it comes to experience as well. Another fact is that Rivers and Cutler each have great 4th quarter stats. They are both extremely talented and prideful quarterbacks so it’s obvious that there will be some tension.

Boston… if you have seen The Dark Knight then this will make sense. The Chargers needs the Broncos like the Joker needs Batman. Remember this is why football is so awesome. Let us all remember that we are still human beings and not get wrapped up in the this name calling mud slinging fest. This sport is amazing!

Well played East. I am trying to keep t hands clean of name calling and disrespect.

Wow…a lot of crying for days on this sight. The truth of the matter is this has nothing to do with the chargers it is all about the broncos not doing their job and getting in this situation. As far as Rivers talking take a look at Cutler and his great behavior…I hate people who talk trash and won’t look at the truth the Broncos don’t want it…and the coach needs to go..

The broncos are the worst team over .500 that I’ve ever seen. Undoubtedly the most overrated bunch in the NFL. I expect a 20 point loss to SD, who isn’t a good team, but is still infinitely better than denver.

Hey Dave and Soldier, you forgot a F**K YOU or two. Let me try. F**K Dave, for taking up so much of my life with your worthless post. F**K Soldier, I’m saying it to your face, and also while im at it F**K the chargers, F**K phyllis and his merry men, and a great big F**K YOU!!!!! to the chargers bandwagon fans, where were all of you F*GS all season!

ok if ur a real bronco fan do you give up on ur team i dont think so .do you give up on the player in cutler that made the pro bowl?NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and half the QB’S that BOSTON picked ARE’NT even in the pro bowl!!!!

can’t agree with you more grahamslam

charger fans keep your comets to your self.bronco web site

Michael, Boston can take his list of QB’s and shove them up his ASS! There are reasons for Cutler making the pro bowl that bandwagon fans would never understand because they don’t truly understand the game.

I would love to see the day when phyllis loses as many key players to his offense and defense and still has a shot at winning the division. chargers can’t even sell out their stadium every home game as it is, that to me is the measuring stick of true fans. It seems they just don’t have what it takes.

You have to be 2 b crazy if you think that rivers is a better QB than cutler i mean if i was the denver broncos GM i would not even think about trading cutler 4 rivers. and why would i trade a humble QB IN jay cutler 4 a disrespectful lil punk who thinks that he is the only QB in the NFL that can throw a 70 yard pass. yeah don’t think so. most of rivers yards come from there back up running back 5’6 in Darren sproles who turns a 15 yard screen into a 60,70, or 80 yard touch down. and yeah rivers has got a few deep passes to chambers or jackson. but when you see cutler trow a 60 or 70 yard pass to marshall or royal it’s not that surprising. and he’s still doing it even no there’s key players on IR. like grahamslam said i like to see the chargers do it with there key players out. BOSTON 1 more thing cutler made the pro bowl and rivers did’nt. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. o’ya BOSTON now you can LOL;)

most of the charger fans are gay

i give respect 2 the charger fans i mean i could not stand having a additude 4 a QB i mean i couldnt stand having a QB that is a big baby and thinks that he is the best whens he is a QB that crys all the time and 2 have a running back that is all ways cryin and 2 know that our back up is faster and more explosif than him im so sorry you guys have to go through that konwing that jay cutler is a way better QB then ours dand i cant imagine

o cool i guess

i cant believe the broncos just a big disipointment but i would trade a loss to SD then to have rivers as a QB. im not kiddin. its our d… they suck and how about all the coaches that have any thing to do with the d get there ass out of there and webster,bly ,and williams and that dumb ass prater who can’t even kick a pat get him out off the season and get just as good draft picks as you did last year

52-21 – I called it (48-24)

Not even Hochuli could have done anything about that game. The Chargers are just way better, plain and simple.

kevin i would’nt say better then us i mean if they had 16 players on IR they would’nt of even been winning games and yet we still were.i know 4 a fact that they are not gonna go to the super bowl and win and guess what the broncos are gonna get a better draft pick and if we did win that game we would loose our first game

kevin i would’nt say better then us i mean if they had 16 players on IR they would’nt of even been winning games and yet we still were.i know 4 a fact that they are not gonna go to the super bowl and win and guess what the broncos are gonna get a better draft pick and if we did win that game we would loose our first game.

BOSTON.. I don’t know who that is but i do know that you are an ass whole. You think you know so much about football i am a girl and i know that Rivers is a shit face… He is good but he wouldn’t be nothing with out LT… so get your head out of your ass….

i think that yo,boston,boltman are the worst names ever (boltman) sounds like a name 4 a roid.(boston)is a name 4 disipointment red socks,celtics,pats all C H O K E (.yo) a put down(yo momma jokes)

52-21. Just a little reminder in case you all forgot.