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Published on 10/18/2011 at Tue Oct 18 09:17.
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Raiders acquire QB Carson Palmer from Bengals

Posted Tue Oct 18th by

"Good luck. You'll need it." (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

Roger Goodell should give the Cincinnati Bengals a call.  They just got away with highway robbery.

Sitting at 4-2 with a legitimate chance of winning the AFC West this season, the Oakland Raiders lost starting quarterback Jason Campbell for the season and went into panic mode.  After pondering Philadelphia’s Vince Young and Denver’s Kyle Orton, the Raiders decided on Carson Palmer.

In order to acquire Palmer, who has been holding out all season, the Raiders are sending their 1st round selection in 2012 and a conditional 1st or 2nd round selection in 2013 to the Bengals, reports ESPN‘s Adam Schefter.

When the Raiders selected quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft, they surrendered a third round selection, before trading a seventh rounder to Seattle for linebacker Aaron Curry.  Last year, Oakland used their fourth round selection to trade for Campbell and traded their second round selection to the New England Patriots on draft day.

The Raiders are now left with fifth and sixth round selections in next year’s draft.  Unless Palmer, a nine-year veteran, takes the Raiders to the playoffs and beyond, this trade hardly seems logical for the Raiders.

In Broncos’ news, Denver signed Atlanta Falcon‘s practice squad safety Rafael Bush on Monday.  Bush will provide depth to a Broncos secondary that was missing Brian Dawkins at practice Monday due to a neck injury.

It’s always fun to see the Raiders make illogical moves.  What’s your take on the trade?

  • Dante Pakistan

    That McDaniels was with the Rams?

  • Dante Pakistan

    Thought*

  • johnny

    Jeez, they coulda had Horton, a “game manager” for a 7th rounder. Heck, Xander probably would’ve thrown in our 2nd rounder too!

  • http://Facebook.com/BroncosZone Jon

    The Raiders could have gotten Orton for a lot cheaper and probably would have gotten similar production out of him.  Even Vince Young would have been a better trade all things considered, IMO.

  • Anonymous

    Al is running the raiders from the grave apparently.

  • Anonymous

    Not only that but they stall would have to sign Palmer.

  • Anonymous

    Long live the Raiders way of doing business, Al lives!

  • Anonymous

    Long live the Raiders way of doing business, Al lives!

  • Stewwy35

    Doea anyone in the afc west have any idea how to manage a roster?

  • David

    Philadelphia is reporting that they aill listen to trade offers for Asante Samuel. Why wouldn’t Denver try to go out and make a trade like that? They certainly have the cap space and it would improve our DB situation.

  • Anonymous

    What do you trade?  Philly will want draft picks and Denver needs as many draft picks they can get, regardless of Luck.

  • http://broncotalk.net Monty

    I thought Oakland way-overpaid for Richard Seymour a few years ago. I was wrong. Gonna hold my tongue on this one. There was a time when Palmer was proving he was worthy of his first round status.

  • David

    We have some depth at LB and the Eagles are small at that position, maybe add a late round pick along with one too or maybe see if they are interested in Knowshon, rumor has it they aren’t happy with him either. If anything else it would be worth a phone call.

  • Anonymous

    But worthy of possibly two first round picks at age 32?

  • http://Facebook.com/BroncosZone Jon

    Something I hadn’t thought of:

    “The Raiders will get some high (3rd-4th round) compensatory picks in the 2012 draft after losing Gallery, Asomugha and Miller in free agency.” – PFW

    That stinks.

  • Anonymous

    Mike Brown is a piece of garbage. 

    I can’t believe he’s getting two first rounders after doing Palmer like that…

  • dbroncs24/7

    Eagles want to deal Samuels, with woodyard stepping up possibly DJ for him??

  • Anonymous

    I would still say they over paid for Seymour. 

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t be adverse.

  • King

    How did Brown do Palmer wrong?  Palmer was under a contract that he signed.  No one held a gun to Palmer’s head.

  • David

    And the deadline goes, with only the Bronco being traded is Lloyd for a 6th/5th round pick. I’m sorry but EFX could have improved our team and just let it go on by. Same thing with Free agency and the waiver wire………….I hope they figure this out before 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Because overnight the Broncos were going to be Super Bowl contenders.  This isn’t hockey or baseball where you can bring in 2 or 3 players and push your team over the hump.  Additionally this team was not going to be any better picking up players through the waiver wire and they weren’t going to get some magical trade that would have them go 11-0 after the bye week.

  • Anonymous

    Palmer made it clear that he was never playing another down for the Bungles.  Rather than act like a businessman and a professional and treating a class guy (who brought that franchise from a laughingstock into respectability) with any shred of respect and dignity, he shit talks him and is willing to let him retire and get nothing for him.   All because he’s a stubborn asshole 
    Mike Brown is a legendary piece of shit.  Not just in this case, but ALL cases.  I can’t believe ANYONE would defend him.  It is you, though…

  • Anonymous

    Player for player is fine but adding a late round pick is a bad idea.  The Broncos need draft picks, including and especially late round picks.

  • Anonymous

    When it is the raiders, absolutely.

  • Just being honest…

    I don’t know anything about Mike Brown, but I hate any athlete that tries to get out of a contract.  If you sign a contract that is your word and you are legally bound by it.  A businessman would never let someone walk away from a contract without restitution.  Tort law applies to pro sports.

  • areferee

    Bye week ramblings:

    Broncos’ fans aught not be the ones to criticize Oakland for their trades and draft choices, because we haven’t been too scintillating in that department over the last few years, with the last draft being an exception of sorts.

    There is mixed opinion on the Lloyd trade, with this writer leaning toward it being a bit of a “blue light special” for the Rama-lama-ding-dongs.  EFX has some distance to go before the “Hurrahs” drone out the “Holy Craps!”

    However, someone appears to be carrying on the A.D. tradition of mortgaging the Raider franchise with continued head-scratchers like… can you say, Darrius Heyward-Bey?

    As far as our own KO’d bearded one, he seems to have the current trade value of two cents worth of dirty ice, and Oakland is merely the latest squad on the critical list to pass on our gassed-passer.

    All things considered, the extra bye-week of fan-philosophy, like the lock-out has given us time to beat the stuffing out of every little morsel of Rocky Mountain minutia. 

    One thing is for sure though, this will be an interesting weekend in Bronco-ville.  The Orange Crush squeezes into Citrus City!

    There!  I did it… and NEVER used the “T” word.

  • http://Facebook.com/BroncosZone Jon

    Always insightful, Ref! And congrats on not using the “T” word!

  • David

    This I know, but we are being told the front office is doing what it can to upgrade each position and make this team better, with that they had a chance over the past two days to upgrade some positions with some known players, you can sit here and tell me Asante Samuel isn’t an upgrade over Goodman or Wilhite. I am not asking for an 11-0 run, just show me you are trying to win, like your telling us. I am tired of being in the suck for luck sweepstakes and I pray Tebow shows the organization to ride with him and that he is the future of this organization so we can address some of our other issues in the offseason.  

  • King

    Exactly.  Herc just doesn’t understand that a deal is a deal.  Herc should stop paying on his house and see what happens.  lmao. 

  • King

    The language.  Wow.   You lose all credibility when you curse someone. 

    Having grown up around Cincinnati, I can tell you the fans love the Brown family. 

  • Anonymous

    They also said that they plan on rebuilding through the draft.  There is a reason Philadelphia is looking to unload Samuel, mainly his contract.  In the long run trading for Samuel is a bad trade for the Broncos.

  • Anonymous

    I never begrudge any player trying to get more
    money or to get out of a terrible situation. These guys’ careers can end on any
    play, they can be traded on a whim or cut at any time. I say get what you can
    when you can get it.  

     

    My point was that Mike Brown was willing to let
    Palmer retire and get nothing for him because he’s a stubborn, power-mad
    jackass.  That’s your terrible business
    move.  

    Also, breach of contract is not a tort.    

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, they love Paul Brown.  NOBODY loves Mike Brown.

    I didn’t type anything you can’t hear on basic cable, nancy.

  • Rob Bronco

    I think the signing was a good move by the Raiders and believe it or not – the Broncos benefit from the signing as well.  Carson Palmer is a well-respected, top 10 QB.  He helped turn the Bengals into a viable contender despite the horrible ownership situation and playing on a team with San Quintin’s Cell Block D Squad.  He’s got at least 5-6 years left (think about what Rich Gannon did for the Raiders) with a young, talented squad.  After looking at his stats he’s never had a season where he threw fewer TDs than Ints (except 2008 when he got hurt).  He’s thrown for 4,000 yards twice (almost three times).

    Here’s how the Broncos benefit.  The AFC west has been a joke for the past few years.  Without the Chargers our division is the NFC West (it makes no difference that the Chiefs won the division last year – it was a fluke).  The Broncos now play in a division with 2 top-10 quarterbacks which means we’ll get a little more credibility.  The Broncos leadership will now have to spend money and build a rock solid defense to counter the high-powered offenses of San Diego and Oakland. 

  • NMBronc-in-DC

    This is comical.  These are two businessman negotiating.  Nothing more, nothing less. If you have an emotional opinion, then you are officially a pawn.

    As long as the Raiders lose and Moore knocks Palmer into next year, I am good.

  • King

    Your momma must be proud, herc.

  • Anonymous

    An owner letting a player retire, letting him walk for nothing, becuase of his own arrogance and intransigence is an emotionally based response.    

    Getting bailed out by somebody else’s incompetence is not “a businessman” “negotiating.”  It’s a legacy jerk-ass failing upward.  Like Mike Brown has done his whole life.Â