Tim Tebow on Outside the Lines: Examining the polarizing QB

Your summation needs polishing however, your points were correct.  I find it funny that folks are bashing the “message” these kids are getting by all these horrible church organizations setting up orphanages….while not doing a single thing to help anybody else.  These kids can come and go as they please, these dens of “fundie” rhetoric are funded by the churches and donations from people who do care to help, and they can and should and have the legal right to say that they are there helping because of their beliefs and this is what they believe.  As I said before, please set up your own orphanage, teach them their is no God, we came from apes, and whatever else you do or don’t believe in, but do something with your life other than complain about people who are on the front lines dealing with these people in dire need.  I guess Mother Theresa was evil like the Tebow family too…spreading her vile message throughout Africa.

“I find it funny that folks are bashing the “message” these kids are getting by all these horrible church organizations setting up orphanages….while not doing a single thing to help anybody else..”

Now how the hell do you know what I do or don’t do to help anyone else? Or what J_J does or doesn’t do to help anyone else?   

One can live a good life, be a good person, have morals and be charitable without forcing their fairly tales on a bunch of homeless children with no place else to go.    

Saying “these kids can come and go as they please”  is a bunch of nonsense.

Thanks.  Everyone else thinks I’m a jerk, though. 

This is also incorrect.  For Heaven or Hell to exist at all, you have to believe in a religion that preaches those things.  Otherwise they don’t exist and therefore cannot be such a place.  Buddhists and Taoists believe in the continuation of life because they don’t believe that threatening people with fire, torturer, death, and dictatorship is an appropriate way to convince people to follow their practices.  When they die the don’t go to hell and they don’t follow your god.

I too love skiing and have skied in Alaska a few times.  By putting “skiing” on your eye paint, you will not offend anyone.  That is a completely ridiculous comparison.  If you tell people that depend on you for basic human needs that if they are not into skiing they will spend the next infinity years covered in fire and brimstone, well that might be a more fair comparison. How many wars has skiing caused?  How many people died during the skiing crusades?  Dude that was absurd

No Herc, I don’t think you are a jerk, just usually a bit cynical.  The kids can come and go as they please, and usually do, they go stay with an Aunty, or Grandparents and then find their way back, the kids wanted to see “Tim Tebow” and were not forced to sit and watch, they love American celebrities too, especially when he is so accessable.  They are not “wards of the state” so they can come and go as they please, it is not nonsense.  The jist of what I said was quit complaining about how others are taking care of problems and go take care of it your way.  We worked hand in hand with Catholic and Muslim charities and to this day will not bash what they taught because the big picture was these kids got a ray of hope that comes with food shelter and safety.  So I can say with some confidence that the people complaining do not work with or support these kids because you can’t help but to be touched by these children and the wonderful folks that take care of them, Christian, Muslim, atheist or otherwise.

I can see your point, but there are two sides to every coin… explore the other side

Comparing TT to Perrish Cox???  People like you are the problem in our society.  Atheist hypocrite.  Just because you seem to have no faith and obviously have hatred for those who do, you want everyone else to be like you.  How devilish.  What business is it of yours if TT speaks to a group of kids about faith in God?  What do you believe in?  Everyone do what they want like animals and expect God to give everyone a free pass, while rejecting his only Son who gave his life for YOU?  You may not care too much about your soul, if you even believe you have one, but we are supposed to read YOUR hateful posts.  Why don’t you keep your ignorant opinions to yourself?  Or do you think you have special rights because you view yourself as a wise man because you are a naysayer?  Sociopathic thinking.  Your espousing your views just as much as TT, but because YOU disagree with his views YOU justify your hatred and bigotry.  Tebow is following his faith and speaking out in hopes of bringing people to the TRUTH, whether YOU recognize it or not.  He probably does more good for others in one day than you would do in a year.  He follows God, not you; he cares for their soul enough to tell the truth, unlike you. 

How idiotic.  WHO is condoning slapping or killing a child?  Your sick and deluded mind can only create a juvenile argument?  What, or who do you answer to?  Your inner self?  GOD says that the human heart is desperately wicked.  Of course, you can compare yourself to the lowest example you can think of , but you don’t compare to GOD.  Tebow was offering the children a faith in something.  Is faith in Christ something evil?  Jesus said that the only way to the father, GOD, was through him.  He also said that to see the Father was to see him.  Also, he said that He and the Father were One.  Would you deny that?  Are you saying that what Jesus said was evil?  If you do think so, the Word of God says that is Antichrist? He would die for his faith, and he would die for those orphans.  What would you give your life for?  You could learn a thing or two about your own need for faith in Christ if you stopped listening to that evil whisper in your mind, from the enemy of all human-kind, and examine what Christ has to say.  Maybe then you would recognize that Tebow is being obedient to God for telling the truth.  At one time in your life you probably considered if Christ was who he said he was; maybe it’s time to consider again if Christ was telling the truth about himself. But, at least, stop being used as a tool of the enemy to trash someone who is more committed to doing good than most people. 

Herc,  you are exactly why those orphans need to hear about Christ.

Well said Oldfan.  As much as I respect Tebow as a person, it’s a football game and a business.  Most Tebow fans want him to be given the same chance that Mark Sanchez with the Jets has been given; look at his stats.  Sanchez threw 5 INTS in one game his first year, and he still isn’t playing great.  Tebow makes things happen.  What does Orton do?  If Orton was great and didn’t blow it many 4th qters and Tebow sucked in his 3 starts last year, there would not be an issue; except that the broncos didn’t draft a QB with the 2nd pick.

hello24,  They hated that Superbowl ad because they hate truth.  They hate anything or anyone that stands up to their evil hearts.  Darkness hates the light.  Baby killing is normal to them.  Next, they’ll hate anyone who airs an ad against child pornography or molestation.  Like Christ said to his disciples, “they hate you because they hate me” (paraphrased). 

Oh yeah?  Prove it.  

You are a juvenile in an adult conversation

“You cannot believe in anything – in this world at any point in time
- without living in a fairy tale.  You’re soup is just
as hypothetical as Herc’s soup and my soup.”

What do you have a brain for then?  Or is that imaginary too?  Maybe you are just the figment of your own imagination?  You don’t even believe what you are saying.  You exist.  Your computer that you typed your blog on does exist.  So do consequences for what we do, good or bad. 

Herc and the rest of us may disagree when it comes to religion, but we know that we do exist and that life exists.  Are you married T-Money?  Do you have children?  When your child gets hurt do you ignore it because the child doesn’t really exist?  Do you have a job T-Money?  Rent or mortgage payments?  Tell you what.  Let’s test your faith in your religion.  Quit your job-just don’t show up on Monday anymore.  Don’t pay your rent or mortgage and don’t buy or eat any food or water.  It’s all imaginary, right?  Let’s see if the consequences are real enough for you then.  But no, you won’t do that because you can’t control the dream your in and the dream is programmed, by something, or someone else?  You have no choices?  How convenient. 

Whoa dude.  First of all, I’m not hating on, bashing on, or trying to down your religion so back the F*** off.  You can’t read every word somebody writes and assign it an emotion, voice and meaning.  My entire comment we predicated on the fact that we as people are creative beings and that there is no correct answer to anything in life POSSIBLY including what we know to be history. I was responding to the comment “Evolution is the true adult fairy tale.  You are certainly free to believe you originated from primordial soup.  I choose not to.”  I was simply expressing my opinion – which i should be allowed to do without you tearing my head off – in a manner to played into the idea that nobody was right.  

That in no way shape or form indicates that I don’t believe in life’s practices and responsibilities.  Nor did I ever EVER imply that I don’t have to do a damn thing to or as you but “have no choices” to run my life successfully.  I don’t know where you get off personally attacking me for laying out a HYPOTHETICAL idea that could possible challenge the way that you think, and then cramming your BS down my throat.  I don’t know how you live in America and do not know or understand that people have freedom of speech and are entitled to their own opinion.  

For somebody that is married and has kids – i would have thought you would have figured that out by now.  If you don’t want me to come to your house and shove my religion in your face, then don’t do it to me.  There are over 20 different religions and hundreds of thousands of different beliefs in this world and everyone of them thinks the other is wrong.  It’s that same Hubris attitude that get’s you replies like this.

You’re not a jerk, you just seem to have a negative bent towards Christians for some reason, and immaturity in your responses.

What would you do Jim, tell the kids that there is nothing to believe in?  Wait till someone else comes along and teaches the kids to kill Christians and Jews, or Americans, or whoever?  Did Christ ever tell anyone to go about teaching others to kill, rape and pillage?  Never.  And those who do in Christs name are not followers of the true Christ, but of a different-false christ.

What??? How am I infringing on your rights.  You made a comment, I responded, you responded back.  Read the post in a different, milder tone.  You’re assigning too much emotion to it.  That’s the problem with emails and posts; the reader transfers their emotional content into the text and then holds the writer responsible. 

Yeah.  I have a hatred for christians like you.  I go out of my way to insult christians like you.  christians like you tend to be hateful and bigoted towards blacks, hispanics, gays, muslims, jews, democrats, single parents, science teachers and pretty much anyone who tries to put the unprovable (in any goddamn sense you can dream up) fairy tales (my term, by the way, not T-Money’s) you subscribe to in doubt.
 

Again your ignorance shows every time you blog.  My wife is from Mexico, born and bred.  My children are Hispanic.  I have a college degree in Biology and am working on a Masters in Business Management.  My 3 siblings and I were raised by a single mother who worked 2 jobs to make ends meet.  I went to a Christian college and many of my Professors were Democrat; they just weren’t Atheist.  Are all democrats Atheist Herc?  Thanks for the info, I’m sure the Democrat party would find that useful.  You are inaccurately profiling Christians, you have been programmed to do so.  (Snake Handlers and Pat Robertson, get a clue).  You are the hateful bigot, you just don’t see it.  Are you trying to say that African-Americans, Hispanics, Jews democrats, single parents and science teachers can’t be Christians?  Are you really ignorant or what.  And by the way, Muslims and Christians have a lot more in common with each other than with atheists.  Our society of atheism is what Muslims despise about our country.  Do you know any Muslims?  Do you have any Muslim friends?  I do?  They respect me and I respect them.  The common denominator between us is that we think atheism, not atheists, is the enemy.  Also, the entire Christian faith came from Jews.  Jesus was a Jew.  The apostles were all Jew.  The early church was made up of almost all Jewish people.  Jewish teachers, writers.  All the books of the Bible were written by Jews.  Is your bigotry just towards a Jewish Messiah? 

 Quite right Jim-JebowHe’s doing more than “shoving his opinion”  He’s terrorizing children by telling them will go to hell.  Bringing up a child in any religion before they are old enough to choose IS child abuse.  Terrorizing them with threat of “hell” is just that, CHILD ABUSE.

Well, Herc and Jim seemed to have said it all, (in much shorter terms than all the bla bla bla bible quotes and preaching like you christians.  Shakespeare was right…..”Brevity is the soul of wit.”)  I have taught elementary school.  I have seen children and adolescents scream in terror that they are going to “hell” just because they got in trouble for something. These kids have already been traumatized by exactly this sick kind of thing that Tebow is doing.  My CHILD ABUSE argument is real!!!!!