Potential Suitors for Quarterback Kyle Orton

raiders wont do a trade with the broncos right?

al davis wont allow trades within the division i think.

i think it is odd at the timing of this… i would have thought it would come out after we hired a coach, confirmed xanders as gm, etc… apparently the new coach has no choice other than developing tebow, which the job will require. to me this also says- offensive minded head coach.

I think the Titans are a glaring omission in the list of possible landing spots for Orton.

It sounds like Fischer is going to win out over Young in who Bud Adams wants to stay. If that is the case they will have a BIG need for a QB and Orton would fit great with Kenny Britt, a good O-line and strong running game.

um wrong. a new has a choice to go with Tebow or not. a new guy isnt stuck with Tebow at all. with all the talent at the QB position in this upcoming draft the new coach isnt stuck with Tebow.

Kerry is right, you will get a 4th for Orton at best. Watching Mallet right now and see a guy who has all the goods to be a top 10 pick.

Bowlen like offensive coaches. Interesting offense puts butts in the seats. Orton will make too much money to be a backup and we need the extra picks. My prediction: Broncos trade Orton to wherever McDaniels goes.

Orton draws at least a third rounder. Timing is perfect to unload him to a team looking for a veteren QB. Minnesota, Washington (maybe not) Tennessee and Arizona come to mind.

I'm not so sure. There are at least 10 teams out that would get an instant upgrade by putting Orton under center. Are there 10 QB's entering the draft that represent viable starts next year? No way. If you are the Cardinals, do you want to waste another mid round draft pick on another Skelton-type prospect or do you want to spend a little more for a proven veteran? IMO, teams like the Vikings and Dolphins are probably even more likely to jump at the deal because they feel that they have many of the pieces all ready in place. They don't need a superstar to be good, they need an Orton, and I think a 2nd round pick is a perfectly competitive price to set.

It doesn't matter that Orton isn't Drew Brees. Its all about supply and demand. There are a lot more QB hungry teams out there than there are viable QB free agents right now. That means someone is looking to get robbed and hopefully we can cash in.

BTW, Mallet isn't that great (at least according to NFP, a more reputable source than most)

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Um wrong. Bowlen has made it clear Tebow will be the starter this year.

i think the fins and the vikings are way off base. true chad henne and brandon marshall didn't get things going this year as was expected but those things u gotta give time to. Henne is a legit qb. he's got a big down-the -field arm dating back to his days at michigen, when he steve breastn and mario manningham on both sides of him. he knows how to make it work with big time recievers. i just think sparano has been using both players wrong. he should be sticking to the wild cat and using marshall in the play action/bootleg game. and don't forget that the fins can pick up a couple of good WR's in the draft and spread the field a little more which will open up marsh.. remember that marsh is pretty much always double and triple teamed.

the vikings are good to go if u ask me. did everyone forget about tavarus jackson? okay, i understand that when he was in there prior to favre he didn't do so hot, but did you see him play while favre was hurt. he wasn't to bad and he used his legs well. i think they stay with tavarus and draft a young guy in round 1. after all, they have a pretty decent pick considering their record.

all and all, i think getting rid of orton is a mistake unless we plan to sign another veteran QB, because someones gotta tutoe Tebow. i just don't think he's astarter yet unless he can make big strides in the off season to put more touches on his passes and learn to throw a good back shoulder pass, not to mention his footwork, but then again look how far he's already come! i mean its very possible that happens. i just dont think they should put all of their eggs in one bascket just yet. i could see trading orton for another veteran because orton has pretty much halted all dialogue with tebow and is acting like a cry baby about losing his starting job. other then that scenario i don't think denver should just throw the kid in all by his self yet.

i'm sorry bud.. Tebow aint going no where.. It's a reality now.. Tebow fills seats he is a fan favorite and he has tons of talent.. The only thing i could possible see anyone having a problem with is his delivery or mechanics.. so far no fumbles from that.. he put up 299 total yards against the leagues best defense.. had 2 rookie turnovers but accounted for 3 touchdowns.. i don't what more you want.. Elway wasn't the traditional QB his mobility helped him alot.. Elway by no means runs as much as TT..

I do remember YOU being pissed we didn't get Jimmy Clausen out of Notre Dame.. Thank God we didn't do that.. Realistically Bradford is the best QB in the draft followed by Tim Tebow.. thats why they were drafted the way they went.

wow you guys are dillusional. championships arent won with running QB's. Vince Young, Vick, Cunningham, none of these guys couldnt win it all. Tebow will have to transform completely into a pocket passer to be good. he runs and takes one shot to the knees and even god wont save him. he would have to be Steve Young. and he isnt Steve Young by a long shot. Young could scramble well but always looked to pass first. Tebow doesnt do that. never has. he isnt gonna revolutionize the QB position.

A revolution isn't what we need Kerry, just some effin defense. You can't deny that Tebow makes things happen. Yeah, we all know, he'll never be 60%+ passer, or a 90+ rated qb, but he definitely adds a spark to the offense. What the guy needs behind him is for Moreno to get some balls when he runs and stop spending so much time on the sidelines licking his boo-boos (I'm really starting to have some serious doubts on his talent or should I say heart?), the YOUNG o-line to gel next year, and like I keep saying, for this defense to be addressed like it needs to be, which is the #1 priority.

Tell Ayers to drop 10 lbs and move him to ILB because he has NO clue how to get to the qb, draft a mirror for Elvis to replace Ayers, re-sign Champ, draft another DL, cut Dawkins who has nothing left, and then draft a S to replace him.

Offensively, I love D. Thomas at WR, a little soft, but he's a monster and a burner. Decker should get some more burn next year. What can we say about Lloyd? Awesome, thanks, but do it next year and then I'm sold. I keep seeing people pushing for Kyle Rudolph in the 2nd round if he's there, I'd rather go defense, but Tebow needs a potential star tight end if he's going to be successful, as Graham drops too many passes that hit him in the hands. I'll tell you what, based on potential trades and availability, if we go Defense with our first two picks, and I mean drafting can't miss starters (no one year wonder college players, only guys who've done it consistently on that level), if Rudolph is there with our third pick, grab him.

“Yeah, we all know, he'll never be 60%+ passer, or a 90+ rated qb”

its not worth building an offence around a player like tebow if he isnt better than that, cuz he will get hurt playing like he does now.

Elway move is getting blistered on PFT.

Not comparing the players, just showing a stat comparison – Let's play a game: who has a career rating of 79.9, career comp % of 56.9, averaged 14 ints a season, threw more than 20+ td's in only 6 of his 16 nfl seasons, and had more ints than td's in 4 of his 16 nfl seasons? The answer: our new VP of Football Operations.

I'm not comparing Elway to Tebow, but the point is, don't get caught up in the stats or of what Tebow will probably never be. Tebow deserves a shot, and that being said, he needs the tools around him to be successful like any other QB.

And about getting hurt, he'll learn quickly. Just remember Steve Young had to learn after all those concussions he got from his playing style, but Tebow is a big QB, he can probably take a little more punishment, and in some cases dish a little. As a matter of fact, Elway should give Young a call and see if he'd work with Tebow privately, its worth a call to see if a HOF lefty QB would be willing to spend a few days with our new QB.

Dude have you ever heard of the art of negotiation? lol you are such a silly girl!

i agree that expecting a second is unrealistic (but negotiating has to start somewhere). mcnabb was traded for 2 picks- a second rounder last year and a conditional third or fourth in this year's draft. his value and ortons cant be compared exactly as it is generally considered that mcnabb (33 years old and 11 seasons at the time of the trade) is near the end of his career while orton is still considered young (currently 28 and 6 seasons).

i do think he is better than a 4th round pick.. i was just being realistic thinking we'll probably get a 3rd.. we can trade him for to the Bills for Maybin, anyone that has good value and upside.

Who really cares is we get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Orton? He sucks, that's why the Bears got rid of him after 4 years there. He can only produce big numbers when defenses are playing soft when they are killing us.

Talk to Orton, offer him a contract restructuring at A LOT less pay to be a 2nd stringer. If he wants to walk, trade him for what you can get. He doesn't have the will to win to EVER be a championship winning QB. Plus, he can't take a hit.

…”none of these guys couldn't win it all”…

That remark is a double negative and makes no sense…but seems somehow very appropriate for you.

Maybin – No way. He's done zilch in two years. Two years, no sacks, 24 total tackles. Donte Whitner, yes, in a second, and then we can cut Dawkins. Realistically, I think an early 3rd is what we'll see back.

I agree, Eagles got a second for McNabb. Orton would get the Plummer treatment (4th round).

However, I wouldn't settle for anything less than a second round pick for Orton. We're a better team with him than without him and if he's not the starter in Denver, he is the NFL's best backup.

I think you are missing the point with Tebow. We don't see production necessarily, it's the “IT” factor. Elway and Tebow have it, Orton doesn't.
Orton is a better QB in almost every aspect, but he doesn't have that extra something that can elevate the play of those around him. You can see him quit and there goes the rest of the team. I wish him the best of luck in the future.

understood.. the Bills don't play to Maybin strengths.. Say Kyle Orton is to good of a player to make that trade.. But if we can trade Hochstein or Richard Quinn for him.. place him in the right environment and watch make plays.. While on the subject We have to find a way of getting some compensatory on guys like Jabar Gaffney, Matt Willis, Ryan McBean and all the others who I don't think will make next seasons cut.