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Published on 12/20/2010 at Mon Dec 20 07:58.
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Denver Broncos rookie quarterback Tim Tebow prepares to take the snap during their NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs in Denver November 14, 2010. (REUTERS/Rick Wilking)

Denver Broncos rookie quarterback Tim Tebow prepares to take the snap during their NFL football game against the Kansas City Chiefs in Denver November 14, 2010. (REUTERS/Rick Wilking)

I hope you like what you saw out of Tim Tebow yesterday, because it looks like the rookie will get two more games to show more of what he’s made of. According to the Denver Post:

Healthy or not, though, Orton is not likely to start the final two games at home.

Due to Cincinnati and Buffalo winning yesterday Denver is in position to receive the number two overall pick for the upcoming draft. Since Carolina won yesterday there is an outside chance that Denver could be picking first overall, which is referred to as the Andrew Luck spot. The last thing Denver fans need right now is another quarterback controversy, so these last two games are very important for Tim Tebow to excel in… unless you want another Standford QB phenom.

What do you think Bronco fans, Tim Tebow deserve the right to continue to start? Is Tebow the future?

  • http://broncoszone.blogspot.com/ Jon

    Tebow Time!

  • Scottey

    Please just get us an OC and DC and let him show us what he has got. I wish I could figure out why they hate this kid so much.

  • herc_rock

    What we saw yesterday from Tebow is probably as good as it will ever get for him. That kind of offense will not win you shit in this league. His arm is a joke.

    Go Carolina!

  • 5280

    key words ” that kind of offence,” herc. we'll be gettin a new coach, with a new offencive playbook. we have good players who are all young and once everyone develops we'll have something to compete with. tell me herc, why wont tebow succeed again? cuz no one has ever been able to answer this question on BT. every tebow hater has always just said he's horrible with no reason why. you probably dont have a good one either.

    Tebow looked AWSOME yesterday! true they didnt let him do a whole lot but, from what i saw, he's got a cannon for an arm, he runs like mike freakin alsot, and he REALLY knows how to get his team hyped a be a leader. everything we've been needing in denver. with these next 2 games they really need to test the the kids arm. and they need to take advantage of his threat to run. i wanna see more bootlegs and option TYPES of play, but with a hot route or 2 worked into them so he can dump it off if theres no running lanes for him. and what ever happened to that fake pitch pass that worked so well earlierin the season? tebows big arm could really make that play work. theres also a play where, instead of rolling out after the playaction, the qb immediatly turns after the fake and drills it to a short dig route or a skinny post. again, with tebows arm strength this play would work wonders. in a nut shell, the need to diversify his role on the field. as denver fans, we wanna see the whole tebow package. how are you gonna shape the team and the play calling around tebows strengths in the future??

  • Dakota Fan

    I'm still not buying this “not cut out for professional football” argument about Tebow. I think his athleticism deserves a shot at QB. The right coach (NOT Mike McCoy) could make him a decent QB. Use the high draft pick on a decent defensive star and build the awful defense.

    But I also said McDaniels would be a good fit for Denver. I should be done speculating.

  • MonroeBronco

    Sure Kyle Orton has had some pretty good stats (more so earlier in the year), but what he lacks in my opinion is that 4th quarter killer instinct that cannot be taught or coached. You either have it or you dont….and I believe Tebow has it and Orton don't.

    Think back how many times over the last two seasons where Orton was in a position where he had to make a throw to win the game or keep it alive. In almost all of those situation he either threw an interception or a ball down at someones ankles.

    The players will rally around Tebow because he is fierce. Orton is not.

    I say trade Orton to a system where he will excell like in Minnesota. He has good value right now and there are some organizations that would really like to have him. We can fill some other holes before the draft, then draft really smart this year (hopefully).

    Broncos can make a huge turn around for 2011 season with Tebow at QB.

  • beautifulmingles

    Tim Tebow-far better than orton.
    He has to prove in the last two games.
    Players like Tebow Because he is fierce and accurate,

  • flbronc

    he did as well as you can expect to do. nothing blew me away, but nothing told me he wont work out either. it was his first regular season game, so naturally his reads arent going to come a little slow… but the fact that the swiss cheese in front of him couldnt keep the rush off didnt do him any favors.

    the main reason i watched yesterday was to see him play, i am glad he is going to get a chance to play again this week.

    i dont see us winning either of our last two games- our defense cant stop either of those offenses from scoring 30+ points. if we end up picking at the number one spot, you take luck- no matter if you think tebow is the answer or not… when you draft that high you take the best player available no matter the position he plays.

  • mikebirty

    everyone thought the chargers would take vick, then eli manning. they took neither.

    Unless there's a cast iron guarantee that this guy is the next Peyton Manning then the Broncos should let someone else mortgage their future on Luck. Washington, Dallas, Buffalo would all offer good trading partners, don't drop out of the top ten and have a shot at taking one of the top defenders.

  • MrEast

    I do like your logic on this birty. However, the Chargers did take one future HOFer and one potential HOFer both in the top 5.

  • flbronc

    from where we are going to be picking we are mortgaging our future on whoever we pick- unless there is a rookie pay scale in the new cba. the only way not to commit a pile of money to a top pick is to trade out- which without a new pay scale has proven tough to do.

    and sd did take eli… they just traded him for the perceived second best qb in the that draft and you cant really argue with the results (they got two picks in the deal- one i think turned into merriman). i hate the guy but he wins games.

  • ronster

    Was that mortar fire or passes from Tebow yesterday?? Were some of you watching the same game I was? Orton is so much better of a passer (usually but not past 2 weeks) than Tim. I appreciate the Tebow energy everyone is excited about, but those lobs don't make the grade in the nfl. If he can't muster a short yardage passing game, all teams will crowd the line just like the raiders did. Tebow is not an every down weapon based on yesterday's evidence, but with this season trashed perhaps we should see more evidence. My main worry about that: it disses Orton who has been a great find for us. I like him better than Cutler (too many intercepts) and think he's the best we've had since John. He could win a SB for us as our receiving crew is superb. Tim, not so much. Now, if the Tebow supporters are really most interested in getting a bible lesson, ok, I can understand that. Otherwise, QBs in the nfl have to be passers.

  • Doomboom

    Herc the jerk is not a bronco fan. Ignore him. Tebow is still rough but so are all rookies.

  • herc_rock

    I saw a guy who completed 8 passes, half were dump-offs or screens. I saw him badly miss on a half dozen throws (bounced or overthrows or otherwise). I saw a guy whose release is so glacially slow that he'll take an extra 5-10 sacks per season because of it.

    Doesn't seem odd that a coaching staff that has absolutely nothing left to lose and likely needs to perform well in order keep jobs here or find jobs elsewhere would have such little respect for Tebow's arm that they would repeteadly call QB sneaks and running plays on 3rd and long?

    Maybe dikfferent coaching staff helps him develop into a legit QB. Maybe. I don't see it. I think we saw his ceiling yesterday.

  • flbronc

    i think the third down calls were more of an indictment on the ineptitude of our offensive staff to call a game, than it was with his delivery or accuracy. They were willing to throw downfield at other times, so they weren't totally opposed to letting him throw. honestly, i think mccoy thought he was going to surprise them with the sneak.

    now, do i think tebow is the end all be all of qb's? no. am i sure that he will get better? no. am i sure that was the best he could do? no.

    while i certainly respect your opinion, and may come to agree with you in time, the jury is still out for me. it's a team game. if he put up those numbers behind a top 5 offensive line, with an experienced oc & play caller, then yes i might be more inclined to say he may not pan out. it was also his first game- to me you can't annoit a player after his first start, nor can you write him off forever.

  • Darwin

    Let's see what Tebow can do these last two weeks. If Broncos are in position to draft Andrew Luck they have to consider him. Consensus is that he is a franchise QB. You can never pass on a franchise QB!
    However, the Broncos need a complete overhaul of their defense. Doomerville is the only pro-bowl level player besides Champ and Champ is good as gone.
    The Broncos need impact defensive players at every level. Get the best GM that money can buy and let him go to work!

  • TheTroglodyte

    “Doesn't seem odd that a coaching staff that has absolutely nothing left to lose “

    Or they were advised to tank the game because there is no other explanation for running the ball on both 1st and 2nd down when you are getting beat by more than 10 points in the 4th and the run hasn't worked all game.

    I thought that we pretty obvious but I guess not.

  • TheTroglodyte

    The Chargers did take E. manning. They had to trade him for Philip Rivers because he refused to play in San Diego

  • herc_rock

    Yeah, that should say “Doesn't it seem odd…”

  • TheTroglodyte

    lol you're the one who typed it, you can go back and edit it.

  • MrEast

    Can you blame the guy?

  • jimery

    As good as it will get? You are going to write him off after one start? Pull the cock out of your ass and go troll somewhere else.

  • TheTroglodyte

    lol no I can't.

  • Bucky

    Funny, I heard you say the same thing about Orten last year.

  • troyn

    What I saw yesterday was a QB, so adept at running a spread offense, put under center for 90% of the plays (far more than Orton) and still look pretty damn good with an incredibly limiting game plan. This guy has always found a way to win, open things up, like Philly does for Vick, and he will excel. If you couldn't see how much the gameplan limited him yesterday, you are blind or a Tebow hater. I was never a Tebow fan until the Broncos drafted him, but I see a spark there, and leadership that has been sorely lacking on this team.

  • flbronc

    totally agree that the gameplan didnt help him out at all. they could have done some things to move the pocket, tried some quick passes over the middle or something.

  • mikebirty

    Ok – the chargers had the chance to take Vick and Manning and traded away both of them.

  • joe

    Tebow had a good showing yesterday. If his pass to Ball had been caught, the game would have ended with Denver winning. Did anyone see that ball go into the chest of Ball and in a place the defender could not get to?? Oh, yes, guess it did…Any more questions on Tebow's throwing ability? Give the kid a chance all you haters…most of you don't like him because he is a good guy and doesn't run around with an attitude…hmm..says more about you than him you think?

  • The Mascot Army

    “he'll take an extra 5-10 sacks per season”

    and how many will he avoid in being a beast who cant be arm-tackled? How many extra 1st downs will his ignored talents yield? He wasnt sacked or picked often at UF.

    Tebow-haters are ridiculous in focusing on his (exaggerated) “problems” while ignoring his huge assets. And every time you tebow-haters reference his being religious, you are providing everybody with a window into your real reasons for rooting against the kid…reasons that have little to do with football. You cocksure knowledge about his future bust status is just wishful thinking.

  • The Mascot Army

    Marvin Harrison used to joke about Manning's wobbly but accurate passes. Apparently, Peyton just wasnt an NFL caliber QB.

  • AtomicLeo

    I thought he looked like a sandlot QB. Lots of fun to watch but he's not ready for the starting job. I hope Carolina loses the remainder of its games and lands the #1 pick and drafts Luck. We do not need another year of QB controversy crap. Let Tebow take over as the starter this year and next while the front office builds up the D.

  • herc_rock

    What you saw yesterday was Tebow's ceiling – A tough, physical runner who can't make the throws required at this level. We heard everyone with any ounce of knowledge say it leading up to the draft,
    we saw it in the preseason and we saw it yesterday.

    His skill-set, which I'm not denying he has – he's a tremendously skilled runner, does not translate to “NFL QB”

  • herc_rock

    No. You did not.

  • herc_rock

    See, that's the problem with this guy. Everyone focuses on what he did in college. The level of competition between the SEC and the NFL is measured in light-years. There's no comparison. 95% of the guys playing in the SEC when Tebow was there are financial managers or lawyers or they're bagging your groceries. Since some chump from Ole Miss couldn't arm-tackle him means NFL players can't? Pfft…

    And what huge assets does he possess anyway? Is it that he's a “leader” or a “winner” or the team will “rally behind him?” That shit is pointless blather.

  • herc_rock

    So, since I don't worship at the feet of the Jesusback, I'm not really a fan?

  • herc_rock

    But then that nobody would understand our little back and forth.

  • herc_rock

    But then that nobody would understand our little back and forth.

  • kerry

    dude according to the Tebow lovers, he walked on water those 40 yards for a TD.

  • kerry

    Cannon arm?!?! HAHAHAHHA. dude his passes floated like they were on parachutes. he didnt look awesome. he looked like a guy who has lousy footwork and runs first, throws second.

    cannon arm. HAHAHAHA. thats great.

  • kerry

    athleticism doesnt mean “NFL QB” why is it nobody can tell the difference between athlete and NFL QB.

  • kerry

    accurate? he completed half his passes. 50% is not accurate.

  • kerry

    oh dude havent you figured that out by now. speak the truth around these parts and you are a pariah.

  • flbronc

    without those things you have ryan leaf.

    but really, i think you are right about the difference between the sec and nfl. an sec fan will argue that point to his death though- they seem to think that they are just one hair below nfl level. tebow, if he plays long enough, will learn that he cant play exactly like he did in college- defenders are too fast and too big up front. he can truck some safeties and cb's, but linebackers and linemen are going to eat him up.

    i dont want to judge him by what he did in college, but i need to see more of him in the pros before i write him off. for the record- my preception of him in college was that he wouldnt translate to the nfl very well at all.

    his stat line wasnt great, but there were no turnovers which was my biggest concern from him. there were some almost interceptions, but every qb has those from time to time. i was worried he would run, get popped and drop the ball. so we have that going for us. which is nice.

  • herc_rock

    Seriously. Announcers, too. Did you catch Steve Tasker insisting that he intentionally underthrew that one deep ball to Brandon Lloyd? Ridiculous.

  • RCT930

    herc, you make some good points but a lot of people said Mike Vick's skill set wouldn't translate and he's doing just fine. Bernie Kosar also comes to mind. In college he was a slow-running goober with a weird side-arm throwing motion but he was effective and successful as an NFL QB.

    Indeed, anomalies occur every now and then, and Tebow might just be one. I think the next two games will be telling, though we can't possibly know whether Tebow has the potential to be a franchise QB until we see a lot more of him in action. I, for one, would like to see us give him a chance while we focus on rebuilding our defense in 2011.

    Having said all this, if we are picking first in next year's draft, I don't see how we can pass on Luck (if he enters the draft as a junior).

  • TheTroglodyte

    haha

  • TheTroglodyte

    Do you laugh in real life like a jackass too?

  • herc_rock

    Ouch. You're right, I should have said that that stuff is pointless blather if you don't have the talent. Ryan Leaf had a million dollar arm and a ten-cent head. I think Tebow is the opposite.

    Maybe a new scheme and coach will help, but if we wind up w/ the #1 overall and pass on Luck because we've already got Tebow…? Hoo boy.

  • herc_rock

    For LaToeinjury and King Laserface.

  • Charlie

    Give Tebow an offensive line, a good running back to backup his running game, and a couple of good receivers and the Broncos could stomp some NFL ass. I'm sick of folks sayin', “It won't work in the NFL.” Well it did yesterday. Put a college style offense on the field with a good offensive line and Tebow could develop into a Superbowl class QB. He needs to work on quick release, under center, and short passing yardage. Give him those extra tools and he would unstoppable. This kid is a phenomenon!

    Charlie