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Tim Tebow looks to pass the ball under the watch of Josh McDaniels. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)

Tim Tebow looks to pass the ball under the watch of Josh McDaniels. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)

Is it better to be too offensive or too defensive?

It’s been said that defense wins championships, I’ve been known to agree to that, but offense wins games. It wasn’t often the lack of defense that killed the Denver Broncos last season, it was usually the lack of offense.

The defense deserves most of the credit for the early season rise and hardly any of the blame for the sharp fall following. Only the San Diego Chargers managed to score more than 17 points on the Broncos prior to the bye week (23).

Immediately following that week the Baltimore Ravens put up 30, the Ravens first non-special teams touchdown coming off of a (then rookie) Knowshon Moreno fumble.

Then it got dark for Denver.

Kyle Orton’s never been known for throwing interceptions, but in the week following Baltimore facing the Pittsburgh Steelers he threw one-fourth (though it would be more, had he not given a long ball up to Randy Moss in a first-half hail mary against the New England Patriots) of his seasonal interceptions and the Broncos were routed by the Steelers 28-10.

Did you know that the Washington Redskins had the number one pass defense in the NFL in week ten when they faced the Broncos?

Didn’t matter, Brandon Marshall was good on a 40 and 75-yard touchdown in the first half against that defense. Then Orton went down, and Chris Simms came in, do I even need to finish what I don’t want to begin? I don’t know that there’s a defense in the  NFL that could produce when their offense puts up negative eight yards in the second half (which Denver did under Simms). Orton played one half and put up better stats then the Redskins Jason Campbell did in an entire game.

Week ten again, 26-3, Chargers victory, you’d think the defense had a lot to do with that… You’d be wrong though, two fumbles in the red zone by the Broncos offense (one on the goal line, Moreno, Marshall, shoving and one by Simms which led to a touchdown). An injured Orton interception and a recovered on-side kick had a lot to do with the score. The Broncos were inside the red zone four time that game and remained unable to convert. It would be easy to point at this game as the case against Orton, but given that he was injured, you’ve got to give the guy a couple stars.

Though to play devil’s advocate in Philip Rivers‘ own words, the Broncos didn’t blitz nearly as much as they had the first game. Marshall referred to the loss as, “The most frustrating game I’ve ever played in.”

Then it was the New York Giants turn and the Kansas City Chiefs turn, both games the Broncos won convincingly. Offense clicking on all cylinders and defense able to withstand basically everything.

Now, the Indianapolis Colts… Week 14, did you know the Orton finished with more passing yards than Peyton Manning? Of course you remember the Marshall broke the NFL record for most catches in a game, the Broncos even picked off Manning three times! The Broncos however went 6 for 17 on third downs and 0 for 3 on fourth downs. Credit a great Colts defense, but add further kindle to my flame.

Yes, Dallas Clark seemed to have lit the Broncos defense up by scoring three times, but look at how many yards he had (43). That to me is poor play calling near the red zone, not lack of defensive strength. I’m not saying the entire game the defensive play calling was bad, just in the red zone, but this is really the first time I can say it was the defenses fault. However, it was week fourteen and against the Colts. The Broncos inability to run the ball also contributed to this, some other factors being that the Broncos were across the fifty nine times, scoring three times and Orton’s lone interception came inside the red zone.

Does anyone know a good red zone QB? Maybe a guy that could even run it in himself? Or catch it himself (no dummy, Tim Tebow doesn’t catch) if need be?

Despite all of that, the Broncos arguably gave the Colts one of their toughest games of the season aside from the Super Bowl. Yes, I know they lost to the Buffalo Bills and the New York Jets, but were they playing their starters jackass?

Here lies my thesis or conspiracy theory, you judge. After the loss in the Colts game is where I am assuming there was a shift in Denver, due to what Josh McDaniels perceived as a lack of good play calling in the red zone. The game against the Colts could have been a very big win for Denver, but McDaniels revealed his age and experience by pulling the reins from then defensive coordinator Mike Nolan. Who, by my account, had done a terrific job up until that point.

McDaniels made the same mistake that Mike Shanahan had constantly made, he insisted on a bend but don’t break defense, as opposed to an attack defense. In my mind the attack defense is what led to Manning throwing three interceptions and getting beat three times in the red zone by the Manning to Clark connection. Panicked with an eight and five record, a chance to make the playoffs and the possibility of being slapped in the face by failure McDaniels may have got a little too ahead of himself.

The bend but don’t break defense was enforced against the Oakland Raiders, this is evident by the amount of yards the Raiders had on the ground (241), but ultimately low score (20). The Raiders were able to pull away with a win, it wasn’t luck (it never is), but it was about as close to it as it can come. If it were skill the Raiders would have never let JaMarcus Russell go this month (and hasn’t been signed since).

So McDaniels let up a bit, gave it back to Nolan, men can admit when they’re wrong. Going into week sixteen against the Philadelphia Eagles the Broncos were in a must win situation (well, almost, they needed help). McDaniels likely gave the reins back with these words, ‘Keep it under thirty (points)…’

So what occurred? Full on defensive offensive onslaught! Which resulted in nine Broncos penalties that accounted for 95-yards (remember Brandon Stokley slapping the referee’s finger?), he’d been scout teaming for the Broncos number one defense the whole week and was fired up too (I’m kidding, maybe). The Broncos defense accounted for five fumbles (but only two recoveries) and a Donovan McNabb interception.

Did anyone notice the offensive formation the Eagles employed predominantly against the Broncos? Yeah, that was the spread. It kept Denver from huddling and had analysts calling the Eagles the hottest team in the NFC following the game. This is the second game that I’m willing to say that Denver’s defense could be blamed for the loss. Though the offense and an injured Correll Buckhalter helped a ton, Moreno had 18 yards on the ground.

This game I see McDaniels using in his final stand against Nolan as proof that something needed to be done (and it couldn’t possibly have had anything to do with that atrocious running offense). McDaniels again implored the bend but don’t break in week seventeen against the Chiefs and in resulted in a record day (and that’s saying a lot given the greatness of some of the Chiefs running backs seasons) for Jamaal Charles. Given that the Chiefs had what fifteen plus years of tape to see this same defense?

It also resulted in an unfix-able rift developing between Nolan and McDaniels.

Some will point to the fact that in 2010, had McDaniels had a bad season, Nolan would be his immediate replacement. Some will point to the fact that McDaniels by all assumptions seems to have taken control away from Nolan at some point (I’m a fan of the later). There are lots of other theories that we may develop, but I think after much evaluation…

McDaniels agrees with me, it’s not the opposite teams offenses that beat Denver, it’s Denver offense that beat Denver. It wasn’t the defense that was faltering and flailing, it was the offense that was.

I’m not even saying it was play calling, it was an utter inability of the Broncos offenses’ behalf to convert third downs and score inside the red zone.

Now you look at Denver in their 2010 draft and you see immediate proof as to what McDaniels blames. Fans would have had us picking a defensive tackle, a center and a guard with the first three picks. McDaniels chose a wide receiver, a quarterback, an all purpose lineman, a center, another wide receiver, a kick returner and another center with their first seven picks! They didn’t pick a pure defensive player until the seventh round and they had to trade to do it! Excuse the exclamation points, but I feel like McDaniels knows what he’s doing and it’s clear to him what went wrong and if you study you’ll see what went wrong too.

An offense that produces, creates a defense that seduces.

  • TheTroglodyte

    Another great article Ian. Thanks for giving me something positive to read.

  • http://www.overbestmall.com/nfl-jerseys/denver-broncos-jersey/denver-broncos-15-tim-tebow-blue-stitched-replithentic-jersey.html Tim Tebow jersey

    I do not think so. It's important for him to be offensive on the field. Thank you.

  • troyn

    I'm sorry but I don't buy your theory. It's far more likely that a combination of the small broncos def. front wearing down and the league catching on to the broncs schemes led to the downfall (not to mention a lack of a time consuming running game). Unless you were in the locker room or on the headset with Nolan and McD you have no way of knowing whether McD ordered any changes in the defensive gameplan. Also, I don't ever remember Nolan being a very agressive d-coordinator anywhere he has been. So if the broncos went bend don't break as you say, I believe it was Nolan's call.

  • Dan

    Last year, we were too small on our interior offensive line and we could not run, Harris went down which was a huge loss without an adequate back-up, Orton was not 100% and in a new offense with no viable back-up, and McD's play calling was too predictable. All have been addressed in the off season, but unhealthy tackles (Harris and Clady) with a very young Seth Olsen at Left Guard and JD Walton at Center will make our first 8 games real risky. Add in our 1-footed rookie receivers and our legion of second tier receivers and the picture starts to look even riskier. I love our easy schedule, but we may end-up with the opposite problem from last year…A weaker start with a stronger finish.

  • DJG

    I think this year's team will me much more physical on both sides of the ball. Both lines have been infused with size and strength. Last year the defense seemed to wear down after the great start and the offensive line just could not knock defensive lineman off the ball.
    I do agree this year very well be the opposite of last year. We will start slow and end strong. However, the AFC West is much stronger so how strong we finish I am not sure. We might be looking at a high draft pick again next year. Go Broncos!!!

  • broncosman24

    It doesn't really matter who changed the gameplan what matters is that it was changed. All I can say is that we did clearly play differently (on defense) towards the end of the season. Like Ian says there were a couple times where you could definately blame the defense for losing the game. Yeah the defense did wear toward the end of the season and that probably had a little bit to do with it, but ultimately I believe that the offense had a lot to do with this. I don't care how good of a defense a teams has, if you offense is constantly going 3 and out, your defense is going to get tired. Very few teams can win solely with their defense. Only team that comes to mind for me was Baltimore during their SB yr. I think the idea of bringing in a bigger o-line is a great idea and will help out tremendously on offense (assuming the players we drafted pan out). At this point, the only thing I am worried about is this fascination with passing to one player all day or getting over eager and starting Tebow to soon (another story). If we continue to do this, our offense is going to be predictable again. Whether this has alot to do with Orton or the Coach I don't know.

  • http://coloradosportsdesk.com/ David Johnson

    Actually when you look at Denver's offseason. McDaniels bolstered the defense thru free agency and bolstered the offense via the draft. The reason the Broncos collapsed last season was becasue of the DEFENSE and Offense, but maily the defense. The Broncos were trying to run a 3-4 Fairbanks-Bullough defense with 4-3 players. You are right though, it is a “bend but dont break defense”. The Fairbanks-Bullogh 3-4 defense is what all coaches who come from the Parcells and Belichick coaching tree run.

    Bottom line is that you have to have the right players to run a 3-4 defense which Denver didnt have. At the beginning of the year they caught alot of people off guard which is why they got off to a 6-2 start. Once teams got plenty of game film on their play calling tendenceies along with formations at certain down and distances. The defense got exposed and teams ran all over Denver. Washington, San Diego and Philly all killed them by running the ball. All of those teams dont have dominant running games but they ran strait up the middle on Denver's soft defense. Anytime the Eagles rush for over a 100 yards on you, your defense is weak. Andy Reid probably only calls five running plays a game, LOL.

    Game film dont lie, stats do. So you cant just look at how many points they allowed. If a tream wins 15-7, it may look like it was a defensive game, but the game film may show a different story. Prime example, the NFC Championship. The Vikings outgained the Saints 475 to 276 yards. From the yardage numbers alone you would have thought that the Vikings killed the Saints in the game until you look at the score.

    So if you study ALL of Josh McDaniels off season moves. He addressed the main issue first which was the defense not the offense. All of the defensive signings were key guys that Denver needed to properly run McDaniels 3-4. Something else that Josh did to address the defense was fire Mike Nolan and hire the defensive coordinator that Bill Belichick fired after the playoffs. The reason why? becasue Mike Nolan is a hybrid 3-4 defensive coordinator and not a Fairbanks-Bullough 3-4 coach like Josh and the rest of the Parcells/Belichick coaches are.

  • rcsodak

    You were going great until you said McD hired “the defensive coordinator that Bill Belichick fired after the playoffs.

    Look, I think it's obvious to everybody but the author (who needs to use spellcheck) that the defense was a major problem in the 2nd half of the season. Giving up numerous games of 170+yds on the ground is evident enough.

  • kerry

    yes absolutely. McD is WAY offensive. oh and he drafted too much offense too. does anyone see a pattern here? MCD is doing EXACTLY what Shanny did. draft a ton of offense and sign 30+ year old castoff defensive players like Williams, Bannan, Green and Ayodele. instead of being young and speedy on defense, we are old and slow. a Shanny specialty now ran by McD.

  • kerry

    its obvious that the defense and thier age and lack of talent really showed the second half. Nolan milked them for all they had in the beginning but their is no substitute for youth and ability, which outside Dumervil, we had none.

    i mean come on, Fields, McBean and Peterson as a starting D-line?!?!? come on. that HAS to be the worst 3-4 D-line in history and certaily the worse overall D-line in Broncos history.

  • InRodWeTrust

    Well Kerry I must say you have completely missed the boat on guys like Perrish Cox, Sid'Quan Thompson, and Jammie Kirlew. Parrish was called, by multiple NFL analysts, the #1 sleeper pick of 2010. Further more there is no way you can say our offense was good enough last year, we needed as much help in that department as any.

  • TheTroglodyte

    Has anyone else seen the “Thursday Passing Camp Highlights” and Denverbroncos.com ?

    Orton constantly threw off of his back foot while Quinn's form looked sharp. Tebow only had one highlight but his form was perfect and it was a rocket throw right on the money.

  • TB12

    Tebow is all hype. I am impressed with his jersey sales, though!

    The numbers are all you need to know:
    http://www.sportsgrid.com/power-grid/nfl-player

  • TheTroglodyte

    You'll live to eat those word TB12!!! lol

  • kerry

    oh im sorry, did i miss the part where i said our offense was good enough in my above post? i could have swore i didnt post that at all. it must have went invisible as the post sat there. i KNOW our offense was bad. i PREDICTED it would be bad before last year even started. thanks for the info captain obvious! i said, and i quote “MCD is doing EXACTLY what Shanny did. draft a ton of offense and sign 30+ year old castoff defensive players” which is exactly what McD did this year. i said nothing about how good or bad the offense was.

    and Cox, Thompson and Kirlew wont see starting action this year except maybe on ST's. and furthermore 3 guys, who wont start, doesnt make our entire starting defense any younger. our starting D-line is over the age of thirty, our secondary is ALL over 30, Ayodele is over 30. do you see my point here? and i dont care about the “Sleeper” pick of the draft. that sleeper pick will be lucky to crack the dime formation as a CB. for one he wont be the Nickel CB because putting him as the nickel will suggest McD made a mistake in drafting Smith, which we ALL know he wont do.

  • kerry

    too bad jersey sales dont win us SB's.

  • TheTroglodyte

    Neither does your mouth but you still run it an awful lot :)

  • 12508

    The problem with this team is Xanders. Boldin, Jones, and Porter could have been picked up before the draft. Boldin to replace Brandon for a 5th round pick. Jones to play RB in front of Moreno. Jones was a free agent. Porter to play MLB. I guess Xanders said why pick up 3 Pro Bowlers to fill holes before the draft? Our defense was awesome the 1st half of the year. Everyone knows we had a weak D-line. I have no problem with the Tebow move. We might get lucky. Tebow works hard and you can never have enough players like that. Now the rest of the draft could have been used to help on defense.

  • Orange_Crush

    Wow, You just quoted yourself in a post, I thought that kind of pompous self blubbering was saved for the morons over at NFLN.

    And to say you predicted our offense to be bad is like saying you took a s*#t, you predict doom and gloom every year, whats new? I know I know, I have heard you all to long, now you will say something about how it is easy to make the prediction when you have been a fan for umpteen years, you will make up some lame new nickname for McDaniels to let us know you knew all along that he was a bad pick at head coach and then you'll call everyone else on this blog a Koolaid drinking idiot, before going off to save the world from yet another day of hope and optimism. Kerry your shtick is old and boring… as always

  • http://nation.theorangepage.com/blog Ian Henson

    How many games do you think the Broncos gave up 170+ yards on the ground in the 2nd half of the season? Besides the two that I pointed out (Oakland & Kansas City)? Just once more against the Steelers (which was only 173 if you don't count yards lost), they also only had 23-yards rushing in the first half.

  • http://nation.theorangepage.com/blog Ian Henson

    Wink's not a 3-4 coach at all, with only one season of 3-4 (while the linebackers coach in Denver) according to Warren Sapp whom worked with him in Oakland. Though Sapp's not the greatest analyst and he was being led to say this by Jaimie Dukes.

  • jt

    Want to see what others think of the Broncos this year? Check out this post on a Titans site, where they are doing a series on every team they will face this year. http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2010/5/28/1489
    Following is how the blogger believes that Tenn. will defeat the Broncos. Interesting stuff –but they haven't a clue about this year's team!

    Three keys to winning
    1. Run, Run, Run. This matchup sets up well for us, as their weakness on defense clearly involves stopping the run. Give CJ the ball, and don't stop.

    2. Stick with inside, power runs. Same strategy as I'd like to see used against the Giants. Running the ball inside eliminates some of the quickness of the 3-4. Let that big offensive line go to work.

    3. Protect the ball. Denver was 2nd in the league in fumbles forced and 13th in interceptions. The had a knack all year for forcing turnovers. Don't force any throws, and keep the football close to the body on running plays.

    This matchup looks good for the Titans. While I'd generally be fearful of a McDaniels offense, Kyle Orton doesn't exactly strike fear into my heart. And, in the absence of a good passing attack, we can compete with any team in the NFL. On top of that, Denver struggled against the run last year, and we happen to have the best running game in football. Titans win this one in classic Fisherball fashion, 20-10.

  • robtink242

    its early but the 2010 team should be
    QB- Orton, Quinn, Tebow

    RB- Moreno, Buckhalter, White(surprise signing)

    FB- Larsen

    TE- Graham, Quinn, Branson

    WR- Royal, Gaffney, Stokley, Thomas, Decker, Lloyd

    OL- Clady, Harris, Polumbus, Kuper, S. Olsen, J.D. Walton, Beadles, Williams, Hochstein

    DL- Fields, McBean, Bannan, Williams, Thomas, Green, Smith

    OLB- Dumervil, Ayers, Haggan, Kirlew

    ILB- Williams, Woodyard, Greisen, Ayodele

    FS- Hill, Barret, Bruton

    SS- Dawkins, McBath

    CB- Champ, Goodman, Jones, Smith, Carter

    K- Prater

    P- Colquitt

    KR/PR- Thompson, Cox, McKinley,

  • robtink242

    That Defensive line looks scary and i don't mean intimidating. The only thing that prove other wise to me is how players play during the pre-season. I'm not talking about the vets i mean the young players. Who will show the passion that Woodyard and Larsen showed. Who prove that they are nfl worthy. a lot of you guys talk about “sleeprs” from last years college recruits only Carter emerge from a CFA.

  • TheTroglodyte

    I am a very big fan of Woodyard's but if that guy is a starter we are in serious trouble. He got TORCHED last year on passing downs, and mauled over when he was trying to get into the backfield to make a tackle.

    His speed keeps him “around” all the plays but there are plenty of guys in the league that can make tackles after all the blockers have been occupied.

    Slightly larger than a safety, way smaller than a LB and lacking the skill of either. I would love to see the improvement needed from him to be a starter but until he proves it, he's all special teams and backup.

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  • Gary R.

    Interesting piece Ian. I agree that the Indy game was the key in the unraveling of Nolan and McDaniels relationship (and what led Josh to seizing the reins). And you're correct about Josh preferring a bend-but-don't-break approach in combating Peyton's wily abilities (and in the season to come).

    However, you are absolutely mistaken about your assertion that Denver's attacking defense led to the three-quarter long throttling of 3 INT's and many three-and-outs that the Colts suffered (until that final game-clinching drive snuffed out a Marshall-led, gradual Bronco rally).

    For it was the Broncos dropping extra defenders into coverage and even switching the Strong Safety's coverage responsibilities that confused and choked off the Colts offense. And it was only the resumption of the blitzing we utilized in the woe-begotten first-quarter that led to the three Dallas Clark receptions (that culminated in the TD pass that put the game and, ultimately, the season out-of-reach).

    The Broncos were throttling Manning by dropping into coverage and holding off on the blitz (as most teams have learned by now to do against the quarterback who can find the hot-read with both eyes taped shut).

    But Nolan lost his nerve and sent three blitzes on that final key drive (all of which led to critical Dallas Clark receptions).

    McDaniels was probably livid and couldn't understand why Nolan would depart from a strategy that was so effective in the second-half (in getting INT's and three-and-outs).

    Then, against the Raiders, Nolan did the opposite and didn't bring the pressure against JaMarcus Russell (which allowed him to do what many medicore QB's did against Shanahan's bend-but-then-break defenses).

    No worse paired-example could be found on whom to blitz and whom not to pressure than Peyton and the chesseburger disposal unit known as JaMarcus Russell.

    So, the Colts game was likely what convinced McDaniels that Nolan and he simply didn't share the same perspective. And, if Josh can be taken at his word, the K.C. loss was more a product of Jamaal Charles and the Chiefs line exploiting predictable run-blitzes than Cassel anticipating any extra pass-rushers (since the Chiefs annihilated us on the ground).

    Normally I prefer adding pressure to playing back on one's heels (and especially if you run a 3-4 that better allows your defense to disguise a blitzer by dropping a defensive lineman into the spot the blitzer once occupied). For its this strategic advantage that Bill Cowher and Dick LeBeau rode to many playoff appearances and even led Mike Shanahan to deliberately provoke his multi-million dollar DT Albert Haynesworth by switching to the 3-4 (before he'd have to admit a mistake by starting and then switching from his more familiar 4-3 in D.C.).

    But Peyton Manning lives to be challenged by blitzing and is probably the smartest QB to ever play the game (so I'm with Josh on this one… especially since the strategy to flood the down-field zones was paying dividends).

    That game would have sent Denver to the playoffs and turned 2009 into a successful campaign (even with the losses to the Eagles, Raiders and Chiefs).

    Oh, and RobTink242, I agree with your projected roster except for one oversight.

    For I think that Mario Haggan will make the team too (but as an ILB now). Ultimately, he'll take Nick Greisen's spot (unless Griesen's downfield coverage improves enough for him to supplant the inconsistent, frail and more 4-3 suitable Wesley Woodyard).

    But the OLB you are forgetting is Darrell Reid (whom I assume is still returning to Denver). Paired next to Jammie Kirlew, we'll have two pass-rushers who can step in for Elvis and Ayers in a rotation that would take some of the heat of our converted defensive ends.

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  • http://nation.theorangepage.com/blog Ian Henson

    I'm not saying that I was right, but Denver Post's Klis pointed this out my speculation is on point as to what Mike has heard from players here: http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_15205066 In the question regarding Nolan's departure.

  • jibbons

    Really? No offense intended, but I read that as a different take than yours.

    “Peyton Manning put the Colts up 21-0 after three possessions.
    During that 21-0 blitzkrieg, Nolan called some plays — particularly the run-blitz — that McDaniels didn't like. The hostile way McDaniels handled that communication breakdown was not well-received by Nolan. A month and four consecutive losses later, Nolan and McDaniels mutually agreed to part ways, without much comment.”

    I didn't see anything about taking the reins from Nolan. Just an indication that Nolan didn't take the dressing down well, which Klis thinks led to him not wanting to be here and Josh not wanting him here.

    Klis seems to think that it went down the opposite of what you are speculating. That is, the 'bend-don't-break' heavy on the downfield coverage style is what was stopping Manning, and that the aggressive run-blitzing had backfired to the tune of 3 touchdowns in the Colt's first 3 possessions.

    Ultimately neither the Defense or the Offense were things of beauty last year, although the defense looked like it would be. I think the Broncos 5-2/3-4 look prevented effective game planning until enough film could be collected to find the holes. Add to that an offense that could not run without injured RB Buck, and the evaporation of our offensive line, and you end up with a hot start and cold finish.

    Hopefully all of the additions to the lines will correct these issues. Running should be easier if we get better performance from the left guard and center not to mention a back up tackle that doesn't make you cringe when he enters the game, looking at you Polumbus (I don't much care for Flozell, but I would sign him in a heart-beat with the way Harris gets injured). The passing game would benefit greatly from improvements up front as well, Orton was practically useless under pressure. I've got to believe the new 'old' talent on the D-Line along with a generally more aggressive DC will have a better time against the run than they did during last year's collapse.

    Sorry for the long post.

  • http://helmetandpadsrequired.wordpress.com/ David Johnson

    Here is my take on what happened to Noal nad the defense last year. I somewhat touched on this subjuect in a comment earlier on this blog.

    http://coloradosportsdesk.com/wp/archives/2010/

  • jibbons

    Oops,…
    Denver DID NOT hire the defensive coordinator Belichek fired, even though the media were certain they would. Wink was with the Broncos as a LB coach last year.

  • jibbons

    oops on me,
    Belichek didn't fire him either, Pees' contract ran out and he said he wouldn't be back.

  • http://helmetandpadsrequired.wordpress.com/ David Johnson

    Yeah when I tped that response last week I had forgotten that Wink ended up getting the job. But on the link to the blog that i worte for a website, I gave my theory on the Broncos defensive issues and Nolan

  • http://nation.theorangepage.com/blog Ian Henson

    Jibbons- Please, if you haven't noticed, we welcome intelligence on this blog. Never, never, ever, ever, ever apologize for a long post. We thrive off of them.

    If this were an essay, my thesis is a play on words and it may have gone over more heads than one. Offensive can mean many things, ultimately what I meant was he too much for Nolan? As in was he too offensive?

    You have a great post and I'd love to break it down piece by piece, but I ultimately just see me justifying my original writing and I don't think that's going to do anything for anybody.

    I think that your insight is impenetrable, your thoughts are inevitable and I appreciate so much what you have to say and your comments on it.

    In the long run, Mike Klis is pointing out through various unnamed players, which is what I drew my original blog post on (though I feel like we'll lose them if we ever get into whom we are in contact with and hint at anything specific that would reveal them).

    In the meantime, I just bought a great apartment in New York, got my internet connection back and BroncoTalk will be up and flourishing as soon as I get unpacked.

    All your love will never be wasted.

  • http://nation.theorangepage.com/blog Ian Henson

    Gary,

    I LOVE your comments, you bring an educated opinion and seem like someone we could really talk X's and O's with.

    I have to give full disclosure, I've seen the Colts game a total of three times and with very little study at all.

    I am very much of the Malcolm Gladwell 'Blink' opinion when it comes to that game and football in general. Meaning I saw what I saw, there is nothing more, analyzing is something that ESPN created in order to sell time between commercials. The only exception being if you're one of the very few who is playing the game or scouting that team.

    One can make plays or statistics into anything or everything that they'd like. I felt as if the “reigns” in the Colts game switched hands… Twice. Though this article may not have reflected it, I couldn't cite sources now. However, it was merely opinion as I was typing. Though since it's been published I can say that I very much feel that I was on point with what I originally said.

    Not to take away from anything you said at all, you are correct! It's just that who was calling those plays at what time is what I believe I was correct on. That being what ultimately led to the Mike Nolan exit from Denver.

    Nolan exiting to me equals the success and the demise of the Broncos post-season hopes last December and centers around something that I will write up in the future.

    However, Nolan left for a reason, a very specific reason. Whether it was for the same reason that he was forced into early exodus from San Francisco… That is up to a future article of mine.

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