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Published on 11/15/2009 at Sun Nov 15 14:21.
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Denver Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton is tackled by Washington Redskins defensive tackle Kedric Golston and defensive end Brian Orakpo during the second quarter of the NFL football game, Sunday, Nov. 15, 2009 in Landover, Md. (AP Photo/Nick Wass)

Denver Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton is tackled by Washington Redskins defensive tackle Kedric Golston and defensive end Brian Orakpo during the second quarter of the NFL football game, Sunday, Nov. 15, 2009 in Landover, Md. (AP Photo/Nick Wass)

The Denver Broncos‘ third loss didn’t come against an AFC powerhouse, and it didn’t come against a team renowned for its dominating physical style. But the manner in which they lost was the same.

In the second half, the Broncos were out-executed defensively while being wholly ineffective offensively, and the Broncos dropped to 6-3 after their 24-17 loss to the Washington Redskins Sunday.

Quarterback Kyle Orton‘s injury to end the first half was largely the difference, as Denver’s starting quarterback went 11/18 for 193 yards and two touchdowns while backup Chris Simms went 3/13 for 13 yards and one interception. The Broncos were shutout in the second half.

This one’s tough to swallow. Can the Broncos bounce back from this? Keep it clean and dish it out in the comments.

  • Deven K

    SIMMS f*d it up. Greatjob idiot you just FAILED!!!

  • NavyBSU_fan

    well, if orton is out for next week i want to see what brandstater can do. simms was terrible in his first real action. i hope orton is fine and ready to go though.

  • broncosfaninal

    If KO stays in, we win this one. Tough loss…

  • NavyBSU_fan

    by the way, this was woody paige's dream scenario. great call, woody. hope he publishes his fantasy football roster so i can immediately drop any of those players that i have.

  • Adrenaline27

    The Refs were terrible. They blew several calls and they missed that fumble. The Special teams needs to be addressed.

  • Kevin

    I DVR'd the game and even bigger was the lack of calls from the Ref's. Ever since the end of last season they are afraid to throw a flag if it will help the Bronco's in any way. There were 13 totally blown calls that would have gone the Bronco's way today 7 would have extended drives.

    Nice job Ref's, I guess in the Bronc's case NFL stands for No Flag League.

    Kevin

  • kerry

    oh boy. another loss. well we can lay this one at McDaniels feet. and let me explain why. our running game was making progress when McDaniels decided to go deep with a QB who hasnt played all year. the Redskins made the adjustments to the deep ball and McDaniels didnt adjust back to the short passing game he loves so much. its obvious McDaniels will ride his gameplan to the death without making any sort of adjustment. yes granted Simms was atrocious but MCDaniels should have NEVER decided to call deep passes with Simms at the helm. Simms is rusty and the short game would have been the best route.

    the defense seemed to lack intensity today and this is further reinforced by the fact that we got beat on the ground without them having Clinton Portis. and Jason Campbell is about as bad as Jemarcus Russell and today he was made to look like a Pro-Bowler.

  • Chooch76

    Special teams has been a problem for almost a decade. Chris Simms… well, whoever didn't see that one coming isn't very perceptive. What is happening to the Defense???

  • Chooch76

    Special teams has been a problem for almost a decade. Chris Simms… well, whoever didn't see that one coming isn't very perceptive. What is happening to the Defense???

  • NMBronc

    Time for the Brandstater era.

  • TheTroglodyte

    You are so perceptive Kerry. You throw a b!%# fit all year because we don't throw deep. You throw a fit about how bad of a rb Moreno is, I believe your exact words were “He's just like Reggie Bush”. You throw a fit about how stupid McDaniels is because he keeps running screens. You throw a fit about how Orton can't throw deep and when you get proved once again that everything you say is wrong instead of man'ing up about it you say it's McD's fault because he called a play for a deep ball with a rusty qb.

    For someone who won't shut the F&*% up about how Orton's first int was a “real int” you sure are the most two faced Bronco fan I have ever known. Simms did have check downs available and could have ran for 5 – 10 yards on that play as well. But I am sure the play call said he should throw it into double coverage no matter what. I'm sure the 10 short throws he made that were off the mark were McD's fault too.

    Just admit you don't know what you're talking about for once. Moreno can run. Orton is better than you give him credit for. McD had a good gameplan that failed because we had to play the QB you thought was so much better when people like Kyle who watched him throughout camp repeatedly told us this was exactly what Simms would do. Overthrow, underthrow and try to force plays.

    BTW going 17 for 26 for 193 yards on short throws and screen passes hardly makes Jason Campbell an all pro. They sure as hell didn't mean that for Orton when he put up those numbers on those throws right?

  • postalmoose

    Weel let me be the first to jump off the bandwagon. This team has gone from exciting to awful in three weeks. All you have to do is mnahandle them and the defense falls apart. Now that Simms is playing you all will be screaming for Orton to get healthy as Simms is awful. I saw him at camp and my grandmother is more accurate. The O and D lines are getting manhandled with regularity and now the defense can'T tackle. The NFL has figured them out and it looks to me like McD hasn't figured out how to change things up. They are in trouble big time.

  • mikebirty

    The problems is Moreno can't run more than 3 yards at a time and Orton can't throw the deep ball. Time for Simms to start… Or am I a week late with that?

    As Kyle tweeted: “I was hoping Woody Paige was right.”

  • kerry

    really?? i got proved wrong because we threw 2 deep passes to 2 wide open receivers?? yeah ok sure. funny how on that other deep throw Orton completely missed Royal. and yeah it is McDaniels fault for the playcalling. a rusty QB sholdnt be trying to throw deep but making safe throws to bleed the clock. and i said Simms was atrocious. and its obvious that McDaniels doesnt have a clue on how to adjust a gameplan. F**KING morons like you who have never played football clearly cant see that MCDaniels has no clue how to adjust a gameplan to 1) counter a defense and 2) adjust for the QB who hasnt played all year. oh and by the way, who won the game?? last timei checked we didnt. so all of your whining about what i say means ZERO when in fact McDaniels was outcoached and this team was outplayed in the second half because of MCDaniels inability to adjust his gameplan. yeah zero points in the second half. let me say that again ZERO POINTS. if McDaniels was such as offensive genius as you think he is then how is it that no adjustment was made to suit the backup QB? why didnt he stick with the running game that was seeming to gain momentum? why not out a pounder in there in Hillis who can gain tough yards to bleed the clock? let me answer, BECAUSE MCDANIELS REFUSES TO ADJUST HIS GAMEPLAN. oh and in case i didnt mention this before, we lost the game to a 2-6 team. and i know you have every excuse in the book as to why this didnt happen or this did happen or how Buckhalters fumble was somebody else's fault or Simms INT may or may not have been a “REAL” INT right? Orton did do good on 2 throws. the rest resulted in………nothing.

  • TheTroglodyte

    “F**KING morons like you who have never played football”

    lmao you played for a college that would get beat my most California high school programs. A college where everyone who tries out for the team makes it. You're seriously going to try to play that card? I can name more people who went pro both as players and coaches out of my local junior college than you can your university.

  • TheTroglodyte

    “Orton did do good on 2 throws. the rest resulted in………nothing.”

    BTW he was 11 for 18 not 2 for 18. Once again you prove yourself wrong. Well done sir. Well done.

  • kerry

    never said Orton went 2-18. i said he did good on 2 throws and the rest resulted in nothing. wow your lack of reading comprehension is astounding. but i guess i expect that from a guy who attended a junior college. and by the way i remember you saying you attended a “real college in a real division” funny JUCO schools arent “REAL COLLEGES IN A REAL DIVISIONS” HAHAHAHAHAHHA. what an idiot.

  • Anthony33

    If Orton is out next week, then yes, start Brandstater. And it's not so much that he stunk it up, which he did, but rather what he did after the game.

    Here is a guy that just played horrible and he's out there laughing, joking and yuking it up with the other team. They should cut his ass right now and let him buy his own plane ticket back to Denver, or better yet, back to Texas where that loser belongs. Winning obviously means nothing to him.

    CUT HIM NOW…Bradstater could not be any worse.

  • Anthony33

    To clarify…I was talking about Simms in my prevous comment. Loser ass Simms.

  • alex

    ok first kerry i think mcdaniels is a good coach considering the fact that he's taken an extremely young team in his first year of coaching to 6-3, i didn't get a chance to see the game but if you're pounding the ball on the ground it makes perfect sense to throw a couple deep balls

  • TheTroglodyte

    hahaha your the idiot because saying the rest of his throws resulted in nothing means he either didn't complete them or get any yards out of them. Also I never said I attended junior college I said my local junior college has produced more pro players and coaches than the university you went too which is actually a fact. Dude your college just lost to the #1 ranked Montana lmao. Seriously, that isn't a football team that is a joke.

  • http://broncotalk.net Kyle

    I really don't like the “How'd you like THAT, Woody Paige?!” crap that's going around. It's not his fault.

    My point is, I would have rather been wrong and won the game right now. I would have rather Simms play out of his mind, defy my logic, support Paige's, and be sitting at 7-2 right now.

  • micgon7

    Well I didn't get to see todays game, And It looks like I didn't miss much…Nothing seems to have changed the past 3 weeks!!!!
    Josh, If you beat the teams we're supposed to lose too and lose to the teams we should beat what has changed? You were brought in cause you we're a sort of offensive genius. When are we going to see how smart you really are? It takes alot more to win then wearing your shirts like the man who gave you your NFL break…. Not many coaches get to have the kind of weapons you have on their first NFL team. Gosh even I know that……

  • http://manchester-architects.com T-Money

    Dude are you kidding me? Orton throw 3 deep bombs today and 2 of them went for scores. Knowshon almost had a 100 yard rushing day. I don't know where you get your information but you might want reconsider you're argument.

  • Goober

    I actually thought our offense looked like it had all it's problems fixed until Orton with down with an injury. I hope he is back next week. If not, please bring in Brandstater.

  • http://manchester-architects.com T-Money

    No. That's just not smart. Let's take away ANY potential we have and give the ball to a rookie. Did you watch any of the first half? Kyle Orton played just fine.

  • http://manchester-architects.com T-Money

    injuries, and poor execution. We like to run the Tampa 2 and Cover 2 Zone a lot and the problem with that is that it's really really effective…if it's executed correctly…and really ineffective if it's not. Today we saw the ladder of the two.

  • http://manchester-architects.com T-Money

    I hate….absolutely hate….HATE…. Losing. But just because we are in a slide I don't believe that we should be crying about it. There's still 7 games left in the season…. SEVEN. That's A TON OF FOOTBALL. Maybe it'll take beating a division rival in a nasty, bloody, gut wrenching game at home that will get us back to where we need to be.

  • TheTroglodyte

    You're absolutely right T-Money. How can people be giving up when we are still the division leader and did show an huge improvement in pass offense against the #1 ranked pass defense. If Orton didn't get hurt we win that game. If special teams doesn't get owned, the defense only gives up 17 points. It's not like we did not see some good improvements this week.

  • robtink242

    That true. But look at it like this. realistically Bradstater has been more active as a QB than Simms. Seeing that he just came out of college. I would question McD choice to throw Simms in the game. The guy arm is reckless and the pressure clock in his head is broken.

  • NMBronc

    Potential? We just lost to the Redskins. We made them look good. The confidence is gone and our team is in trouble.

    Just fine? Orton has not looked just fine for a month, which is the last time we won. Marshall was wide, wide open and his passes were behind. Orton is out next week and Simms was not good.

    And yes I have watched every minute or every game. We are in trouble, give Branstater a shot.

  • DenversFinest

    this day hurts. I thought I'd never say this but I hope Orton is ready to go next week. If not Brandstater is my man. Simms was pathetic. No one can say we would have won with Orton though. As for the game our D got gashed all day, you know my feelings about Simms, just a bad game overall. Game Ball though goes to Marshall, he was the only bright spot, Runner Up is Moreno, he played decent. I still wish we would have picked Orapko and Beanie Wells though. As far as the division goes we have some serious work to do. We have got to win this next game if we want to go to the playoffs. Rivers is for real. You don't realize how much pain that inflicts when I say that. I guess the only thing I can do now is forget about it and scream at the top of my lungs come sunday.

  • kerry

    yes that is true. im not saying the INT was MCDaniels fault because Simms s the one who threw it. im saying MCDaniels playcalling was bad to call a deep pass in that situation. 17-17 and our running game is gaining momentum and he decides to call a deep pass with a Rusty QB. doesnt make sense to do such a thing when the running game is working. situational playcalling is something McDaniels seriously lacks. and especially with Hillis on the bench, why not get fresh legs in there?? the deep pass wasnt neccesary in that situation ESPECIALLY with a QB who hasnt played since preseason.

  • NMBronc

    Deep bombs? He threw the ball as far as he could, about 40-45 yards, and the balls were behind the receiver and would have been picked if the receiver was even remotely covered. Take the blinders off. Orton was good against the Pats and Chargers, but has been aweful since.

  • kerry

    yeah im not so sure who would have been better in that situation between Simms or Brandstater. i think if we were up by about 17-20 McD might have given Tommy B a look but perhaps MCD thought Simms gave us the best chance to win. either way the job didnt get done. the lack of being able to adjust the offensive gameplan is something McD needs to work on.

  • Juno

    All Simms has to do is not throw the ball. It was a play fake on 1st down where the hope was to have Marshall running wide open like he had been on 2 other plays. He was not supposed to make that throw into double coverage he was supposed to check down. It was a great call considering we had 2 more downs to make something happen. It was a very poor decision by Simms.

  • Big_Pete

    You all wanted Simms in for Orton the last 2 weeks, well, now you have it. Orton isn't going to play next week per ESPN.
    This is HORRIBLE! Simms isn't good. Orton was showing deep ball accuracy and playmaking ability. Now we have Mr. “I have no spleen” in at QB.
    I just hope we start Brandstater instead of Simms. If indeed Orton doesn't play, we might as well see the potential in the rookie, instead of what we know will happen with Simms (here's a hint, with Simms, we will lose, guaranteed).
    It's gonna be hard to tailgate for sunday's game now, but surely I'll find a way.

  • Pete

    Brandstater was inactive for todays game, that's why Simms was in.

  • http://manchester-architects.com T-Money

    Are you kidding me? Like I've said many time before this was a huge TRAP game for the broncos. Early, east coast, against a 2-6 team… The broncos ALWAYS lose those games. Secondly, If Orton doesn't get hurt we win. And yes he looked just FINE. I didn't say, nor did I imply that he was of a good caliber or anything of the sort. Marshall was wide open on the first one due to blown coverage and, yes, it was under thrown… The second one Brandon made an amazing move to get that open and they connected again. But don't bring the attitude to the table of….throw the deep ball….throw the deep ball….then cut their legs out from under them we the do. And who ever said that Kyle Orton could even throw that far?

    Lastly, yes! this football team has tons of potential. The offense put up 17 points for the first time in 3 weeks and with the exception of the ST shanagains that Jim Mora pulled, we were in control of the game. I don't, and will not, believe that Branstrater is the answer. He's HIGHLY inexperienced and you've only watched him play against a 2nd and 3rd string Defense. In the pre-season i might add. Your just like everybody else. Drunk on winning, then calling for heads once the buzz is gone.

    I'm sorry if you are to…blind, as you put it… to see that we can still be a 10-6 team. If you honestly believe that we are going to lose the next 7 games then you are truly as naive as i think you are and I hope I get the opportunity to laugh at you when you are wrong. I'll even give you the same opportunity to due upon me if I'm wrong…which I'm not.

  • wyobronc

    I'm sorry…Did you say “”now the defense can't tackle”? Take a deep look at just how the defense has really been doing through the first 6 games….I don't know about you, but I believe Nolan brought a good thing to the table, but now teams have “tape” and have figured it out. I havee always scoffed at the idea of Champ being a GREAT cover corner…Look at even 3 years back when every decent WR in the league got a half-step behind “Champ”…He got toasted. SURE he makes some GREAT plays, but notice they always happen IN FRONT of him! AND often times when he has help! Yes the O and D line got manhandles…Like I said, the “tape” tells all, and other folks have figured the chink in the armor out. In other words…NOTHING has changed in the fact that the Bronco are still tackling-challenged! Oh, would you PLEASE learn to spell…ALL OF YOU!

  • http://manchester-architects.com T-Money

    Dude really? Do you really expect orton to be 100% accurate all the time? Nothing is ever enough. First of all you should know that Orton WOULDN'T throw it deep if they were covered (he did once but it was more of a..the plays working, keep doing it thing) because, as you should know by now, he likes to protect the football. And I don't consider Orton's play in the first half poor whatsoever. He was 11 for 18 for 193 yards and 2 touchdowns.

  • http://www.broncotalk.net Josh Temple

    The other receiver on that rollout had decent separation, Simms should not have thrown the ball there. Marshall had both guys beat, but no qb has the arm strength to get it in there before the safety closed. Bad read by Simms, either throw the ball 3-5 seconds earlier or take your check down or run it, there was nothing but green ahead of him.

  • http://www.broncotalk.net Josh Temple

    “Moreno can't run more than 3 yards at a time”

    Moreno had his best day as a Bronco today and was shredding the defense at the end of the 2nd quarter like it was worn out in the 4th. Give the rookie some credit. There was a drive where he was almost averaging 10 yards a carry. When we couldn't convert 3rd downs in the second half is where we had issues.

  • http://www.broncotalk.net Josh Temple

    I agree with your first statement. I actually feel pretty good about this game other than Simms completely letting it go for us. The offense founds what was ailing them.

  • Gary

    We love the Broncos but Orton has not demonstrated that he has the long ball and if my Broncos can not go long I don't think they get past the first couple of rounds in the playoffs. I was a Bronco fan during the days of the Orange Crush and I hope I am wrong about this…….?!?

  • Anonymous

    Wow finally home from that long trip..I enjoyed my nine rows from the field seats 50 yard line…But I heard somebody say sims is warming up and I told my dad its on the defense now..I will say this I enjoyed watching the broncos but we lost because our starting quarterback left with an ankle injury.. Here is the bottom line we lost to a desperate Ravens team and a tough Steelers team and now a inept skins team… Kyle Orton was awesome today… I believe he had a 40 yard and a 80 yard pass…Brandon caught both balls on the ten yard line and they were accurate passes….We ran the ball better today, but the tackling was horrid and the defense gave up when the offense couldn’t work….Kyle is the answer, Chris Sims needs to be cut…….Got get Garcia as a back up. There is no need for crisis in this team damage control oh yes…..Woody Paige was really wrong about Kyle orton…

    OH YEA PEYTON HILLIS OF COURSE AGAIN WAS

  • Anonymous

    HILLIS WAS NOT USED AGAIN TODAY THANKS JOSH………….THE GUY AVERAGED 5.0 YARDS A CARRY AND THAT DOESN’T MEAN A DA(m THING TO JOSH

  • milehighs

    the chargers are going to crush my broncos.I wont be able to watch my tv this next game.Or i will bash my tv in.

  • mikebirty

    maybe i didn't get my point across right – it got lost in all the sarcasm but yeah you're right – I REALLY DID wish he was right and we were at 7-2

  • Anonymous

    Loved the way Chris Simms was laughing it up on the sideline during the 2nd Half and after the game…Good stuff….