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Published on 06/15/2009 at Mon Jun 15 13:13.
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Marshall Asked Bowlen For a Trade

Posted Mon Jun 15th by

Folks, Adam Schefter reported this one. During their meeting on friday Brandon Marshall asked owner Pat Bowlen for a trade. Bowlen asked Marshall to consider whether he wants an extension or a trade, and according to PFT, “Marshall is expected to stick to his guns.” Wow. I’m speechless… sort of.

I’m not too mad about this because of all the problems Marshall presents to the team. However I will be furious if he goes to the Bears. If Marshall is traded, at least Denver is guaranteed an increase in original value seeing how he was a 4th round pick. Denver could lose a diva of a QB and a trouble maker of a wideout this offseason. Man the other blogs will definitely say Denver is done for if Marshall leaves. More to come.

What do you think Denver? Should Brandon Marshall be traded?

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  • jcampb72

    Ngata would be ok, but I would want a 3rd as well.

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    It would probably be Marshall a 3rd and Ngata if Denver is lucky.

  • broncoNM

    Im all for team players…But in the NFL you need a #1 WR. Im not saying it has to be marshall but he is the closest we have to a #1. Orton is going to need help keeping possesion and moving the chains… he needs a #1 WR for that. Think of what plax did for eli. It doesnt have to be marshall but if we trade him we will have to find another guy somewhere else because you dont want to put that kind of pressure on royal, stokely or gaffney. Those guys are GREAT but are not there yet.

  • kerry

    East:

    Ngata would be awesome to have. a 6’4, 345 pound NT would be perfect.

    and yeah Florio may have connections, but he also has a huge bias against the Broncos. and florio is still a jackhole. but i better not talk too bad about his site, he may come lurking here to defend his site against me like John Bena did. lol

  • kerry

    here is what makes me laugh, with Marshall Orton is “ALLEGEDLY” gonna be awesome, yet if Marshall goes then people are gonna be worried about Orton. PFFTT. if Orton is so good and McDaniels is such a genius then the Broncos dont need Marshall right?

  • Nicole

    Not again!
    Look, everyone is entitled to their opinion as to whether or not he should stay, but there are things going on at Dove Valley (and every other franchise for that matter) that would probably leave us speechless. One of the things to remember is that trading Jay started this “turn of events” and this is why a “seasoned” GM would’ve aided the broncos. Every team has player personnel problems but the players aren’t always traded away. I lived through all this drama and I was hoping that the bronco fans wouldn’t have to repeat the process. you can have a great plan, but you do need a certain level of talent at certain positions.I won’t hold BMarsh’s and Jay’s incidents against them because there are things that happened that we don’t know about. Basically, the flood gate has been opened and it may take a while to close it again.

  • jcampb72

    I would never trade bmarsh and a 3rd for Ngata. They pay difference between the two alone wouldn’t be a good trade straight up.

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    Kerry,

    J’Vonne Parker is bigger than that, I’m not saying he’s good, I’m saying we need a star NT.

    I’m more comfortable with Orton behind our offensive line than then recieving corps. If this was Ryan Clady I’d be going nuts.

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    jcampb,

    B-Marsh for Ngata straight up would be a huge steal. An amazing defensive linemen like Ngata would do wonders for Denver’s talented secondary. Champ Bailey would be able to breathe for once and start making plays again.

  • Andpark

    East_
    I miss Shan bringing some sort of stability to this team (good draft picks, bad draft picks, stupid trades and all). He did bring a mediocre QB to 13-3 and the AFC Championship game. I am accepting change but can’t say I don’t miss that guy.

    broncoNM_
    Ulcer, I know because I am getting one also.

    MileHigh55_
    Yes the Broncos do need a #1 WR. Royal is a badass but not ready to be #1, we will need someone other than Lloyd and Gaffney.

    I for one really want Marshall to stay, listen to offers but we need him as much as he needs a big season this year.

  • jcampb72

    J’Vonne is 6’4 325

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    Could have sworn the guy was 6’6.

  • jcampb72

    I don’t know how that would be a huge steal. A top 5 linemen thats paid like one for a top 5 WR thats paid like a 5th rounder. That sounds pretty fair to me.

  • NathanH47

    jcamp, do you not realize that if we keep B-Marsh or trade him, he’s gonna get paid this summer? Because that bargain contract is the reason for all this fuss.

  • postalmoose

    People. relax! Look at the reality here. Shanny left a team full of immature knuckleheads, misfits and low talent guy(especially on defense and ST) and now that Bowlen has decided to make guys accountable with a new coach the wimps are runing away. Marshall for all his talent catching the ball scored six TD’s and is prone to fumble. Not to mention his off the field garbage(13 contacts or arrest by the cops in four years). The TEAM , I repeat the TEAM will be better off without his dumb ass and think if they give him a new contract and he gets arrested again and suspended. Is all that worth it to have him. The Broncos can get some value for him as someone is always willing to give up picks for a goofball like him. How about Dallas? Anyway I applaud the new direction Bowlen is taking this team all the upheaval to me is the result of going from a coach who had lost his mojo to a new young guy who is all about personal accountability. I will take that any day over what was going on before. All we have to do is hang strong and let all this play out. It is going to take a couple of years for Josh McDaniels and Xanders and Bowlen to bring this all together. I BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY ARE DOING!

  • DepressedSF

    Guys, I just wanted to say don’t dismiss Brandon Lloyd as loser player. Here in San Fran I had to watch a lot of horrible football, but the only thing worth watching was Lloyd. The guy has amazing hands and would week in and week out make some of the most amazing catches I’ve ever seen. If he’s healthy he’ll be a big asset in the right system.

    Great low risk signing.

  • robtink242

    Postalmoose
    one thing i’ve notice is Shanny had control over these KIDS. We are gettin over ourselves again. Kerry that trade to Baltimore is a dream i would love is but i question our coach and GM decsion making. We are in a good position again if we trade him we can get quality in return and if we keep him that values us also.

    One thing is forsure our front office went from best to worst in a OFFseason.

  • robtink242

    Hey we still can get Peppers if we trade our number one and get Haloti Ngata with BMarsh along with Ares. that would bring major clarity to our DL. but hey i guess we could of trade Cutler for Peppers and recieve a 2nd or 3rd. But hey our GM & Coach combo has to be the worst at clutch times

  • postalmoose

    I don’t get how you can say they are the worst in one offseason? Can no one give these guys a chance to show what they can do over the long haul? Remember it was Cutler that asked to be traded and now Brandon wants to go. How is that the coach or front offices fault. And what control did Shanny have over these guys? Brandon got arrested most of those times on Shanny’s watch. How about Travis Henry? He took a lot of risks and they blew up and literally cost the team. I am willing to give these guys chance that is all I am saying!

  • alm034

    Trade him while he has some value. I’m tired of this mess.

  • jcampb72

    Nathan- I know, the broncos hold all the cards.

  • Matt

    alm – he has 0 value right now if anything.

    an injured criminal doesn’t get you much.

  • stav

    All I know is that after Cutler got traded SOMEONE went on NFL Access and talked about the team, team, team. SOMEONE said how he’s just going to do what Coach McDaniels says and be a leader. SOMEONE basically played the role of of loyal company man. And now? I haven’t posted in a while but this is ridiculous. He has the audacity to point fingers at the training staff regarding his injury issues? That there’s trust issues? How about there’s trust issues with him vs. management and him vs. teammates? His off-field behavior is selfish and puts the team secondary. This is a pure money grab, and if he wants to play this game they should let him ROT, as they should of with Cutler. They have all the power here, and as I said a few weeks ago and as I’m sure has been mentioned a few times already, both he and his agent see the writing on the wall, his stats will be significantly reduced with this new system. The numbers will be spread across the board in a balanced attack, maybe not a dangerous one, but a well-balanced offense with a RUNNING GAME. For someone who drops a ton of passes and has more career ARRESTS than his career high for TD’s in a year, he needs to wake up, he’s in a bad spot here.

    On the other side, the NFL is brutal. Contracts are meaningless without the guaranteed money, and if you overperform you do have reason to want to re-negotiate. In his potential walk year (unless it comes down to the CBA adding 2 more for free agency), you could see why he’d want to be locked up, and it many ways it does make sense to lock him up another 5-6 years. That being the case, this is what I’d like to see, a performance based (on and off the field) contract. A base of $4.5 a year – $250k bonuses each for attaining 85+ catches, 1200 yds, 10+ combined TDs, ProBowl appearance, and a $500k bonus if he attains that complete line which means $6mill in total. In the same vein, additional arrests nullify $500K in bonuses. Make him earn his money because he’s never going to see those numbers now. Maybe with this type of contract he’ll actually hold onto the ball. From his past record does he deserve a re-negotiation? I think we all can say yes to that, but a re-negotiation that has several safety nets for the Broncos as this guy can’t stay away from the back of cop cars.

    If he wants to play hardball, again let him rot on the bench or at home. Make him suffer for the holdout as we hold all the leverage, let’s finally use it.

  • http://broncotalk.net/2009/06/marshall-asked-bowlen-for-a-trade/#comments jjlowe86

    look i think that we will end up gettin the shaft if we let him go mike would not let shit get this out of hand McD need to go back to new engiland

  • Matt

    Get this out of hand? Of course not.. He would’ve sat there and been happy of 10 more years of mediocrity.

    I’m all for shedding any guys who aren’t on board with McD… even though they claimed they were not more than just a month or two ago.

    Marshall’s a clown.

  • gilbert jauregui

    Ah shit here we again

  • Ari Fox

    See, they are changing the whole identity of the team. Not just players, but our identity. My team has always been one that didnt pop up un the news for stupid trade demands and a bunch of drama. Now, thats all that I hear about!!! McDaniels needs to get his shit together cuz I refuse to watch a new england transplant come into our house, family, and history and fumble/bumble his way through a contract. None of Belichicks assistants have had ANY real success and I dont think thats gonna change with this guy. If we lose Marshall too, I want coach fired ASAP!!!! We’re the broncos. We are and always have been above this type of nonsense. Get it together. Fast.

  • kerry

    robtink:

    yeah Ngata would be awesome, but havent you heard the news?? McDaniels doesnt believe in actual talent. he believes in his system and not talent. so by tomorrow Marshall will be playing on a different team and we will have gotten some journeymen backup D-line and a long snapper. because its not about talent anymore, its about smart players and the system. look for the entire O-line to be dealt tomorrow for a new ice cream machine for McDaniels office. sprinkles included of course.

  • broncoNM

    Ya what could McD be thinking?? Getting smart, good character players who believe in the system. That has yet to work for the patriots and steelers…

  • http://broncotalk.net (dee)

    Trade him…. he seems really worried about his hip and our training staff, but didnt seem worried about his ex girlfriends face.

    I’ll take a 1st and 3rd for him.

  • kerry

    broncoNM:
    here is a newsflash good character doesnt get you SB titles. talent gets you SB titles. you can have a whole team of boyscouts and it still wont matter.

    but unlike the Steelers and Patriots, we are devoid of talent at truely important positions like QB and NT and DE.

  • Anthony

    He’s not getting traded. Chad johnson has been trying to get traded out of Cincy for 5 years now. WR’s don’t have the leverage that QB’s do. How about Boldin, he’s asked for a trade as well.

    It’s all a ploy, because he was supposed to be a free agent next year, he realized that there will be an uncapped year, which means we will have his rights for 2 more years at a very reasonable price. He also realizes that he may not put up the numbers with Kyle Orton, which will cause him to lose even more money, it’s a business people. On top of that he has a possible long-term suspension for another slip up. So while I’m not defending the guy, I kind of understand the situation. Anyone have any thoughts? How about Marshall and a pick for Anquan Boldin, it’s fun to dream sometimes.

  • http://cdn0.sbnation.com/profile_images/111140/La_La_Mascot.jpg WhidbeyBronco

    dee, have you seen her face?
    Nice looking out for the guy! If he hit her he’d be IN JAIL!!!!
    Hello?
    She hit him! But that’s ok right?
    He DOESN’T WANT TO PLAY HERE!
    Since when do people NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR THE BRONCOS?!!!!

    Since this year!

  • http://broncotalk.net Ian Henson

    I wonder what information Rod Smith had that Brandon Marshall needed… We may never know, if a trade for Marshall gives Denver a first round, that in turn would allow Denver to TRADE for a player like Boldin or even an incredibly gifted defensive linemen.

  • robtink242

    good charactor the steelers and patriots have some of the meanest straight out dirty front sevens. have you ever saw vince wilfork beat on defenseless players or when james harrison beat up that cardinal player during the SB. This is football, charactor is off the grid iron. thats why we were treated like little boys. Future HOF shannon sharpe constanly insulted the opposing team. Ray Lewis and his crew are gangster. harrison and his boys are commanders. D.J Williams and company and cadets.

  • Olen

    How many times did Marshall drop an important pass ? If he stays his attitude will probably be pouty and bitch about not getting enough balls thrown his way . It is hard when you have a team of horses and one is not cooperating in the process . Kobe got along without Shaq . Poor example but , I would hate to think that the team would miss him that much . The Broncos should not do anything , but get the best defensive lineman for him and move on.

  • http://ttmt.com T-Money

    You also have to consider that preseason is only 2 months away. Bringing in someone that hasn’t been here can seriously mess with chemistry and it’s no easy task learning an entire play book in 8 weeks.

    Personally I think the best option for the Broncos is to call his bluff, fine him, and let it play out. If he wants money out of the Broncos then he can play and earn it like the other 53 men. And when did 2 million dollars become pocket change? Did i fall asleep for the last 10 years?

  • OC Bronco

    Anthony said it best until he talked about the Boldin trade and I agree with Whidbey that there is no proof he ever laid a hand on that CRAZY ASS woman.

    He is just trying to get paid. And he deserves it. Yes he dropped a lot of passes but he still caught 100+ the past 2 years. Are you kidding me? The dude is sick! He makes our offense WAAAAAY more dangerous. Put a clause in his contract that if he has any suspensions the Broncos recover a portion of the guaranteed money.

    Fellow Broncofans – Reserve judgement on Marshall until this plays out. The guy plays hard and you don’t replace his talent. I am also doing the same with Bowlen and McDaniels………

  • Uecker

    If Marshall goes to the Bears I will be pissed. We basically traded our two best guys for a couple of turds

  • Tom9798

    I agree it’s about money . . . and I knew BM would opt for the next train out of Denver just like Cutler did . . . the big money contract is not going to happen in this town at this time . . .

    Asking Pat Bowlen for a trade unless you get the big money now . . . . is like telling Rumpelstiltskin that nothing has changed while you were sleeping the last decade . . .

    It falls on deaf ears . . . .

    Obviously . . . BM is in no negotiating posture . . . all the bad media . . . . teary-eyed woman with an attitude he left month’s ago wanting a ticket to the other side . . . .

    Some crap about his miss-diagnosed hip . . . . his gun-slinger QB gets traded to the Bears . . . he’s not going to get the number’s this year . . . . geeeeez life is tough!

    Why not demand a trade? . . . see what shake’s out . . . . Maybe he took Jay’s advice to, “strike while the iron’s hot,” . . . .

    The only thing I truly hope . . . for my sake . . . for your sake . . . and definitely for Kerry’s sake . . . .

    McD better not trade for another Running Back! . . . lol . . . . T

  • http://cdn0.sbnation.com/profile_images/111140/La_La_Mascot.jpg WhidbeyBronco

    Rb? lol Don’t say it, he might.

  • jcampb72

    This is the first time ever that I have ever felt such a strong love hate relationship for my broncos. It makes me want to hibernate.

  • Pat

    B-Marsh needs to stop beating up women. Not cool man, not cool

  • broncoNM

    kerry:
    thanks for the newsflash…you dont have to sacrifice talent to get players that are smart and believe in the system. You tell me how much marshall’s “talent” will help us when he gets an 8 game suspension. These guys dont have to be boyscouts…but they do have to smart enough not to hit their girlfriend or jump infront of a taxi smacking the window….They have to be smart enough to not let their agent talk them into a hold out/trade.

    robthink:
    give me a break…im not talking about 15 yrd personal fouls on the field or talking “trash”. Im talking about constant run-ins with the law that wont even allow him on the field. If character is off the grid you better inform roger goodell because next time marshall has a spat with his girlfriend he wont be on the field for awhile. I understand that these are young guys earning millions and they are not boyscouts but they gotta be smarter than marshall. He is in the news all the time because of his stupidity.

  • Andpark

    Totally agree with NM, Boy Scouts is one thing and just being a moron are 2 different things. Marshall, Henry, Clarett are all morons. We can all agree Pollomalu is one of the most aggressive players in the league on the field but he doesn’t hit a chick in the face off the field. Talking shit and being aggressive on the field of course can be a positive thing we aren’t arguing we should be wimps.

    I’m not saying Kerry and Rob want us to have a bunch of criminals but I think the team does not need any more complete idiots on it either.

    That being said the loss of Marshall would be huge, remember the Giants without Plax? Just being the threat opens up and elongates the field for Royal and Moreno. If we do trade him we will still need a series #1 to fill the void. OC get on writing up that contact!

  • DenverLoyalist

    Marshall leaving will define the true position of the Bronco organization, and as a Denver born dc raised and all denver teams fan, I won’t be ill-felt from the trade as much as the Cutler trade, where I feel Cutler shamed his way out of Broncos organization. However, this tough and highly qualified receiver has more credibility than the ‘marshmallow’ that folx will choose to label Brandon Marshall as. Clearly this is the definite and functioning sign of a dudd in the head offices of the Bronco organization, and ownership is in great questions if Marshall is not fought for to be on the team roster.
    Yet, I refuse to relinquish loyalty to Broncos and Nuggets, I will ultimately always have aspirations for official labeling of dynasty franchise in footbal, and soon basketball.

  • kerry

    i hate posting this because Florio is such a jackhole moron, but here is another thing on Marshall.:

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/16/agent-broncos-will-try-to-trade-marshall/

  • mr. me

    keep marsh @ all cost

  • craig

    3 consecutive post on PFT…
    TheBengal13 says:

    June 15th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
    What is going on in Denver? This team, which is famous for being run so well, is an absolute mess. I’m SO glad that the Bengals play them week 1 in Cincy. All but a guaranteed W for the Bengals.

    coach7811 says:

    June 15th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
    Hey why not? They traded away a franchise QB ! Why not a Top WR? Go Denver! LOLOLOLOL. They laugh at my Raiders? Go figure.

    Simdogga77 says:

    June 15th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    I have to admit as a Pats fan I wish JM the best but I have no idea what he’s doing.
    How in the world do you trade the top two guys on your team?

    How the hell isn’t this McD, X, and Bowlen’s fault? No one wants to play for this guy. This team is becoming an embarrassment. Our two best players plus our first round pick. Amazing.

    East, don’t say anything about DJ or Champ being our best players. Champs 4 years past his prime. And DJ, please…guy averages less than 100 tackles 1.3 sacks and .4 ints a year. He’s a good role player but nowhere close to a franchise LB.

  • kerry

    Craig:

    yeah as much as i hate to admit it, this team has become a laughingstock. its absolutely true. its bad when Bengals fans laugh at us. ugh.

    oh and i agree that DJ is not a franchise LB. he is a great ATHLETE, but not a great FOOTBALL PLAYER. sorry East. wanna go Cheese? HAHA.

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