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Published on 03/11/2009 at Wed Mar 11 10:45.
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Depending on who you talk to, the Denver Broncos and Jay Cutler either came to an understanding or grew further apart on Tuesday, when the two groups participated in a conference call discussing last week’s trade rumors. The conference call involved Head Coach Josh McDaniels, owner Pat Bowlen, GM Brian Xanders, the young signal caller, and his agent Bus Cook.

If you listen to the Denver Post or CBS4, the rift between the Broncos and Cutler grew larger on Monday. McDaniels was said to have led the discussion with a firm hand, indicating that no one is untradeable, and Cutler was left with the impression that he could still be traded despite Bowlen insisting it wouldn’t happen.

There are also reports that earlier, Cutler would not return Pat Bowlen’s calls, a claim that would certainly indicate that the rift between the club and Cutler has become venomous.

However, the latest Associated Press article details a much smoother discussion. According to the AP, the conference call went much better than that, and the two sides are ready to move forward. “Josh McDaniels and Jay Cutler spoke on a conference call Monday and the Broncos look forward to talking to Jay in the future and certainly face to face,” team spokesman Jim Saccomano told the AP Tuesday. More from the article:

A team official with knowledge of the discussions, however, told The Associated Press that despite what other sources may be saying, the two sides did not grow farther apart in this conversation.

The person, who asked to remain anonymous because no one in the organization was authorized to speak publicly about the talks, said issues were discussed openly and it was re-emphasized that Cutler would not be traded. It was also stated that Cutler needed to meet with McDaniels in person to keep things moving in the right direction.

It’s possible that the AP is citing the Broncos while the local news outlets are tapping sources closer to Cutler. If this is the case, and both sources are accurate, the rift would be even greater than what the local outlets are reporting.

Is Cutler really still upset at the Broncos, or are the DPO and CBS4 trying to stir the pot? For the record, I tend to believe the AP story. Few know what is really happening behind the scenes, but actions speak louder than words. We’ll know the mindset of both Cutler and the Broncos brass when voluntary workouts begin next week.

  • Arden

    “In other news, a raucous, maniacal laugh was heard to emanate from Bill Belicheck’s volcano lair.”

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    Adam Schefter please come save us…

  • Scott

    It is unfortunate that their is a lack of loyalty in professional football. Obviously, Jay is as loyal as a golden lab when walked around the park and patted on the head. But seriously, I have no doubt in my mind that with his friends, teammates and previous coaches he is a true blood american soldier for those who show loyalty with him. I trust the McXanders combo will shake from the pissing match and make nice with Jay, but we are a long way from there yet Mile High Maniacs.

  • Andpark

    Seems like a ton of misinformation and hearsay to me. Cutler isn’t going anywhere. Starting Simms or any other free agent QB will get McD murdered in Denver. I am completely on Cutler’s side. McD has not won anything on his own, Cutler may have not taken us to the playoffs yet but has won a lot more games for the Broncos than McD has. No one expect these guys know the real story. Guess we will all know soon enough if he shows up next week.

  • jdkchem

    Ah yes, makes me weep every time football players are compared to soldiers. If only the they could actually live up to half of that.

    USMC 83-88

  • http://birty.blogspot.com mikebirty

    Both of them are losing at the moment. Why can’t they bring back Dre Bly and we can all just go back to calling him useless.

  • T-Money

    I’m over it already. I honestly don’t have an opinion about these latest articles. I’ll wait until the 16th, or the DB organization to make a statement. Right now all this is doing is cause more drama than is necessary.

  • jvill

    jdkchem: Ah yes, makes me weep every time football players are compared to soldiers. If only the they could actually live up to half of that.

    Amen.

    If most football players had developed that same level of discipline a veteran soldier (or in your case, a Marine) possesses, we wouldn’t be on this merry-go-round of gossip and stupidity…

  • BroncoFan18

    Come on, Cutty. Get over it. Yes, McD didn’t exactly handle the situation in the best way, but just move on and save us a lot of trouble.

  • MN BRONCOS FAN

    This is tough and I really hope your positive view is right Kyle. I would hate to see Jay traded on draft day, that is a straight up loss on the Broncos end – regardless of who we get.

    Here is what worries me, if I were McD or Cutler or Bus Cooke (whom I hate), wouldn’t you notify a news source and set the record straight?

    I think we could be in trouble…

  • Monica from Boulder

    GET RID OF SELVIN YOUNG HE SUCKS OH MY GOD WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO LEARN. BRING BACK NATE WEBSTER!!!! THE BRONCOS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IF THEY DO THIS!!!! NATE WEBSTER SCORED MORE TOUCHDOWNS THAN SELVIN LOL!!! I LOVE THE BRONCOS. MAKE IT HAPPEN McD!

  • stav

    mikebirty – YES, YES, YES!!!! Dre Blah was my one of my favorite scapegoats over the past 23 years. We can all agree that if Cutler doesn’t showup for the training, big, big problems are ahead. One person I sure as hell would not want to be right now? Josh McMoron. Does he understand that they’ll be screaming for his blood if we go into this season with a rookie or Simms at QB and Cutler banished to who knows where?

  • DC

    All this is specualtion until we hear Schefter, McD, X-man, Bowlen or Jay talk to the media. I’ll wait till then.

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    mikebirty is right if Denver brings back Bly all will be fixed.

  • stav

    Or atleast we can shift all the blame for everything that goes bad in the world to Blah’s sub-average cornerback skills.

  • plato68

    Im so confused

  • BroncoinVA9986

    he will be wearing orange and blue next year and as far as I am concerned since”ANYBODY CAN BE TRADED” MCD BETTER LEARN ANYBODY CAN BE FIRED….

  • http://birty.blogspot.com mikebirty

    and not forgetting big sam adams. He was great. Remember him trying to run to get off the field on a 3rd down?

  • plato68

    Who is this guy commenting above me

  • champ2203

    can’t we all just get along…………………lol

  • Socal Den Fan

    Monica in boulder are you nuts wanting to bring back Nate Webster!!

  • http://brocotalk.net (dee)

    An open letter to Jay Cutler from a Jay Cutler Fan …

    What’s up JC … as I write to I just wanted to let you know I can’t hold back the tears as I may know you may soon be a former Bronco. I hate McDaniel’s for even considering trading you! I don’t think he realizes you are the only bright light in the pile of garbage assembled on this team. The defense has always let you down, it was never you’re fault. Why aren’t we trading spoiled loudmouth players such as Champ or Elvis, I mean they play for themselves and not the Fans and the TEAM like you do Jay.

    God I’m breaking up again… Jay you have lead them team to never before seen heights, I mean come on you did it with 7 RB’s and now defense , and of course our WR’s running the wrong routes. I still remember the Buffalo game, BMarsh was probably still hung over running the wrong route which led to you’re INT at the 2 yard line. Personally I think he was trying to make you look bad, so you wouldn’t get paid and he could get a bigger signing bonus this off-season. And the San Diego game, I mean I don’t even want to talk about that, the D was horrible … Champ looked like an crippled old man, god we really need to get rid of losers like that off the team, all they do is complain and make excuses, but not you Jay … you’re a freaking Warrior man. Only elite quarterback such as yourself can see the opening in triple coverage, and only you can gun it in there… Elway is just jealous. Please don’t go JC what am I going to do without you? We have punks like Eddie Royal, Peyton Hillis, and Ryan Clady they show not even a fraction of your greatness or heart .

    Jay…Did I mention I love your hair? Bowlen has lost his mind, it was good of you to blow him off, and who does he think he is… just because he owns the team doesn’t mean he controls it! Jay we know this is you’re show, Shanny has taught you well. Please JC you have to stay in order to fulfill all of our dreams for you, this team will self destruct without you, there is NO WAY … we would be able to go forward, we will a laughing stock.

    Jay, I have to say you were right about Bates, I mean the man is a genius he is going to tear up the NFL one day. We all know the greatest his father showed in forming our defense, only to have it destroyed this year by Slowik. You were right to be mad, I mean come on they expect you to learn a new playbook after you’ve mastered our current one. You dominance was unmatched this year… you had like 40td’s I think, I mean a lot of times you let up, because you didn’t want to show off too much, always so humble Jay that’s why we love you.

    So Jay as you can see, we have no one here to replace you. We have overpaid selfish leaders such as Champ still on the team and they consider trading you .. JAY freaking Cutler the greatest QB ever to grace a football field. They try to have McDaniel’s who has NO track record of success at all, I mean has he ever been to a Superbowl? And Bowlen walks around like he’s the boss, what exactly does he do? You have to stay Jay, we can get rid of the others … but you are the Denver Broncos , and we all need you.

    Oh and just by the way Jay, did you get the book of cookies I baked for you? They were made into little footballs….let me know how they were. I didn’t get a reply after I tried mailing you, but you probably are busy mentoring Tom Brady the art of the bootleg, ah Jay there’s no off-season for you, god I love your dedication….

    Best friends always ,

    (dee)

  • Colorancher

    Sounds like the media has done their job yet again. Just wait for the truth. Nobody really knows what is going on, it’s all “I heard from a source who told a friend that new somebody that Cutler…….” I’ll wait and see what happens next week or for when Cutler or Mcdaniels tell us something.

    The Media Wins Again!!!!!!!!

  • Brian

    “I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue” quote from the movie Airplane, ironic how it can relate to this situation!

  • http://www.google.com T-Money

    Here’s a video from NFL.com

    I have 3 things

    Rod Woodesn is a royal D-Bag
    Jamie Dukes makes the most sense of this whole situation.
    Trent Green is also very insightful.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f37153

  • WhidbeyBronco

    Woodson is constantly like this…
    The other two… great link T-Money!
    I really hope Cutler takes Green’s advice!!

    Dee! How could you hack into my pc and publish my letter to JC before I added my photoshopped pictures of Jay & me surrounded by MVP/Superbowl trophies & cheerleaders! You’re tryin to steal my fire but you can’t kill the flame!

  • http://broncotalk.net (dee)

    lol

    Whidbey Bronco

    I’m sorry I couldn’t resist…

  • Jason

    T-Money,
    Jamie is too hung up on the single trip to Hawaii . We’re just starting to realize what everyone else already knows. Jay can be a bit of an ass. I’ve been beginning to wonder if it’s not a good idea to trade him. If he’s vocal and premadodnaish, that just spells disaster.

    Rod is a well spoken, intelligent commentator and Trent had a great take on the situation too. Jay should have been communicated with but he should also have been willing to work with Josh to get things right, instead he’s -appearing to- being childish.

    Don’t get me wrong, I wanted Jay from day one. There have been a lot of things that have led up to my disenchantment prior to this explosion – the way he played said a lot to me. He made a lot of terrible decisions as I see it – just to get the ball to Brandon while obvious options were open right in front of him. That is a terrible way to play QB and more of that leads to more problems. Being a T.O. like character and getting the ball 3-10 times a game is bad, getting it every snap is scary.

    That is, of course, all assuming Jay is an ass. I’d much rather be wrong and get back to drinking the cool-aid.

    Sorry for the windy reply, and no offense meant to T-Money. I just think Rod is a great commentator who is intelligent and insightful and well spoken. Trent as well.

  • Kawike

    On the topic of Nate Webster I’d just like to reminisce. One of my most vivid memories of the atrocious defense was as Larry Johnson of the chiefs ran right with no misdirection in the play whatsoever, Nate Webster turned around and pursued to the wrong side of the field. Ahhh, everything I would give to avoid seeing those days again…

  • BroncoinVA9986

    kawike that is a bad memory…yuck

    JAMIE DUKES IS SO DA** Right

  • http://www.google.com T-Money

    Jason,

    You are entitled to your own opinion, so no offense taken. However I disagree with your train of thought. Jamie was trying to make the point that you have a rising star in JC… who just made the pro bowl… for a one hit wonder in matt cassel. You have to consider that Jay is still young and he is still learning the decision making process. Being a quarterback for the Denver Broncos is never going to be easy until you win your 3rd super bowl. Thank you Mr. Elway (no disrespect). I agree with you that he made a lot of bad throws and he has a bad habit of locking on to Bmarsh, but you have to consider that Eddie Royal also had something like 93 receptions. Stokely played a huge role as well as Tony S.

    Another thing that you should consider…. When you don’t have a running game to support you passing game, you turn into a 50-60 pass-a-game team, and it’s very easy for a D-Coordinator to predict a pass and call in the right defense.

    I also think that Rod Woodsen is full of himself. Being a Raider he always bashes the Broncos. I like what he has to say but whenever it comes to the Broncos he becomes extremely bias and arrogant.

    Lastly, I believe that this new Cutler situation has again been blown out of proportion. In all the articles that have been written, they clearly state “all the involved parties have been told not to speak to the media”. That means that the only credible sources are… JC, MCD, GMX, PB, BC. Anything beyond that is a VERSION of the events that took place and the validity behind that VERSION is sketchy at the least.

    As i’ve said before… March 16th will be the day of decision. OR if the Broncos Organization makes a statement. Only time will tell.

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    It’s going to be interesting to see whether Jay shows up or not. I hope he does because he’s too good to let it go to waste.

  • WhidbeyBronco

    It’s a rare Monday that I’m actually looking forward to!
    The last one didn’t disappoint
    Raiders/Broncos Monday night
    wow

  • Nicole

    People,
    There is more to this story than meets the eye. Something deep and dark is happening here. Now, digest this: why a conference call, why didn’t anyone fly to meet him, why is he really angry? Jay isn’t this angry because of this attempted trade, there is somthing else. Someone within that organization has done something to him. As for anyone that thinks he has a bad attitude: get over it, all qb’s do at some time. Troy wasn’t always nice to everyone and that’s not a reason for a trade, that’s stupid. You’ll love his attitude when you start winning. If you elect to trade him, fine. But remember that it took you a while to find him and it will take a while to replace him. You have a first year coach, but remember…he wasn’t his boss and he may end up being great somewhere else.

  • plato68

    I wish everybody would wake up and smell the astro turf our rookie head coach bit when belichick dangled Cassel. Belichick took Mc Daniels to school and that my fellow Bronco fans is the reason for all the drama in dove valley

  • http://portal.adams.edu Ryan McBroncoFan

    i’m bored of this. i believe the associated press about the talks going smoothly but i also believe that mcdaniels used a firm tone. either way, if he still wants to cry then i vote for the tennessee trade. at least vince young will want to win here so he proves he’s a good quarterback and not just an athlete.
    Vince > Crying Cutler
    Pro Bowl Cutler > Injured VY
    get my drift?

  • http://myspace.com/paraleipsis jchase8410

    Jason,

    B-Marsh caught I think 98 passes, Eddie Royal had nearly as many, and graham and sheffler had I’ve 30 each. Not to mention the runningbacks receptions. To say that nearly every pass went to Marshall shows how little knowledge you have of the game, and how much fans these days put into their perceptions.
    When you have an (arguably) elite receiver on your team, he is going to get more looks than your number 2 or 3 receivers. That is a constant on any team in the league. I admit, jay did try to force some ill advised balls throughout the season, but to pin everything on him is ridiculous. At least a handful of his INTs were off of tipped passes, or receivers running the wrong route.

  • DC

    If jay doesn’t show up monday I’ll be shocked. As a fan of cutler and the broncos I don’t want this to happen. But if he doesn’t show I won’t blame mcd if he trades him. I want jay to be fired up and prove that mcd was wrong in wanting to shop him and come out as the leader of the team. Hes not going to let us down. Jay throw away the ego, mcd stop trying to shop our best player, and lets go out and win the AFC West!

  • Tom9798

    I think the time is right for the alternative point of view . . . .

    A senior Analyst . . . a source “with the force” has just revealed that Jay Cutler flew to Tampon Bay over the weekend . . . .

    Disguised as Ziggy Marley . . . Jay put aside his Tuoca wineskin and left-handed cigarette long enough to say he was crushed by the revelation that Bill Belichick was really his father and that Philip Rivers was his long estranged brother . . .

    . . . said Jay, “I don’t care where I land, as long as it is the left coast of Florida . . . can you dig these palm trees? . . . I’m tired of freezing my can off . . . getting my can kicked and yelled at all the time by everybody . . . even Philip gives me grief and they ended 8-8! . . . anyway . . . if you think I’m going to show up Monday for some kind of conditioning crap . . . sit back . . . roll another fat one . . . and this time don’t bogart the damn thing! . . .

    The senior analyst stated . . . “That whole Pro-Bowl thing was stressful for Jay . . . and all the goings on in the last few weeks have presented him with far too many aspects to consider what with these off-season conditioning programs and such . . . maybe in a few more weeks he will be “with the force” . . . but probably not anywhere that it’s cold.” . . .

    Thanks . . . and we’ll call you . . . .

  • Kawike

    jchase,
    I agree with you 100%. Jay was careless with the ball on occassion(generally in pretty desperate situations), but he spread the ball around pretty well.
    B-Marsh: 104 rec
    Royal: 91 rec
    Stokley: 49 rec
    Tony S: 40 rec
    Graham: 32 rec
    Don’t know about everybody else, but 2 receivers in the 90-110 rec range is pretty good, not to mention everybody else.

  • http://www.google.com T-Money

    It’s hard not to be careless in the red zone, when you can’t run the damn ball. There is no surprise. No strategy.

  • http://myspace.com/paraleipsis jchase8410

    Thanks kawike, I was just too lazy to actually look up the stats. I did know that the ball was spread around pretty well though.

  • broncoNM

    I cant believe royal ended up with 91 rec. I knew he had alot but i still cant get over how well he produced for a rookie. What a stud.

  • OC Bronco

    Why does everyone say we couldn’t run the ball? I understand we had an unbelievable amount of injuries that impacted our gameplan from week to week and I’m not saying we were the BEST rushing team but…..
    Team total yards/game – 12th in the league
    Team ave yds/carry – 3rd ….. 3rd highest at 4.8 ypc!!!
    We just chose to throw the ball all day and here are those stats:
    passes/game – 3rd
    yards/game – 3rd (behind those who passed more)
    yards per catch – tied for 9th (respectable but not great)

    Stats aren’t everything but as you can see we clearly chose to throw the ball because of the carousel of backs, not because ineffectiveness. There were many games where we went away from the running game and not just because we fell behind. Bottom line, it was a choice and a game plan. We would have beat KC if we would have just run the ball.

  • http://N/A Broncos1

    Ive been a fan my whole life, and if you all dont go out to Nashville on your Jet I dont think I will ever watch the Broncos ever again! Come on WAKE UP!

  • http://portal.adams.edu Ryan McBroncoFan

    if we don’t go after jason taylor as our last big sign then i will have a real vote of no-confidence in mcd.
    JT would put some real athleticism in our 3-4. that way we can draft big bodies and let them sort out the DL in camp
    taylor was the only one on the dolphins that could beat mcd’s patriot offense. PLEASE!

  • http://portal.adams.edu Ryan McBroncoFan

    ^^^^^^ somebody has to agree with me here ^^^^^^

  • BroncoinVA9986

    i dont know Jason taylor only cares about his family…

  • BroncoinVA9986

    jason taylor is a heck of talent, but the problem would be getting him to participate in off season workouts….too many risks with too much money….God six overtime games will wear you out…

  • fischdog

    Things are going from bad to worse. Cutler put his home up for sale.I hate that our coach does Bellickeck weaselly ways of doing things.