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Published on 01/20/2009 at Tue Jan 20 09:51.
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2009 Offseason: Be the Coach

Posted Tue Jan 20th by

Opinions… everybody has them, so here is your chance to be heard Bronco nation. What do you want to see done this offseason?

  • Who do you want in the draft? 
  • Who do you want in Free Agency?
  • Who do you see in starting lineups?
  • What players should Denver kick to the curb?
  • Who should be given a shot to start at running back?
  • How is Denver going to shore up the defense?
  • What are you happy about? Mad about?
  • What do you think about the 2009 AFC West condition? What team scares you the most?
  • What player was the MVP of the 2008 Season? Offense, defense, and overall. 

Don’t worry about answering all of those questions, they’re just stimulus to get the creative juices flowing. Select one, any combination, or make up your own. Well thought out comments will be selected and put into a later post (i.e. Do not just say that you would trade up to draft Aaron Curry, specify what draft pick Denver grabs, what Denver gives up to get the pick, and what impact he will make).

Simple as that Denver fans, get your thinking caps on because it is time to voice your opinion.

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  • Jordan C

    Barwin is currently projecting in rounds 2 and 3 according to walterfootball, draftcountdown, and cds draft.

  • kerry

    i cannot believe what i just saw. Jason Peters isnt going to the pro bowl. who did they replace him with? not Ryan Clady but Jake Long!!!! are you FU**ING kidding me?!?!?!

  • kerry

    i seriously would love to know why most are screaming for a RB when the D-line is the biggest problem on defense. we have alot of talent on the LB core as it is. a 3-4 setup could go alot of different ways but our current LB crew doesnt warrent spending a first round pick on. the D-line is the problem and has to be addressed in the first round. Moss and Dumervil possibly outside LB’s with DJ and Larsen in the middle. is that not a good LB crew to start with. we wont have a top defense this year no matter who we draft or sign, but right now is the time to build the defensive line for the future. a great defensive line can make an average secondary look good. so build the D-line.

  • Katch22

    BIGGEST NEEDS!!!

    DT- Sign Haynsworth, Tank Johnson
    Cut Robertson to much money

    DE- Sign or trade for Peppers (he has ties in Denver)
    Cut John Deer, Crowder

    LB- Sign Vilma
    Gone WEBSTER!!!

    SS- Sign Leonard (Ravens) and Brown (Bears) via FA
    Cut- everybody but Barret

    Bly will be better in a 3-4 and draft the rest. Hillis should be the starter either in the HB or FB. I don’t see McDaniels using a FB much!

    Just my two cents. Katch~

  • adam

    Kerry, I agree about our d-line. But couldn’t the case be made that our D hasn’t been the same since we lost Al Wilson? Sure the defense was only middle of the pack with Wilson, but even then our D-line was pathetic. All that to say that while I agree that our d-line needs major help, it seems like D-lineman take a long time to develop, and they’re risky picks in the 1st round. However, MLB seem a lot easier to draft, and they produce instantly (see Patrick Willis, DJ Williams, Jon Beason, etc.) With our offense, a middle of the pack D might be all it takes to compete next year, and a 1st round MLB has a lot more potential to get us there right away. How’s that sit?

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    Trust me Adam… an awesome d-line can make the rest of the defense look amazing. Willis is amazing but he hasn’t been to the playoffs because the rest of his D is atrocious, especially the line. Denver can’t exactly focus on right away, they need to fix that d-line or they will be doomed to repeat the same mistakes as before.

  • kerry

    adam:

    the D-line is where the whole defense begins. and the reason the defense suffered was becuase we lost Larry Coyer and his blitz packages. Al Wilson was great sure. but when you put small weak D-linemen on the D-line (Shanahan’s specialty) and refuse to blitz, the WHOLE defense suffers for it. it wasnt the loss of Al Wilson but the loss of the defensive scheme that worked for the defensive players we had. Al Wilson was a great field general. absolutely. when we blitzed we had a middle of the pack defense. we lost Al Wilson, stopped Blitzing and the whole defense went downhill. and really, how is a MLB any less risky then a DT?? i mean really. Willis produced so well being in the 3-4 but the entire defense was bad. DJ has been good but because Shanahan bounced him around so much he never could get to his full potential and may never at all. Beason is great but look who is on that D-line in Carolina. DT’s arent anymore risky then any other position on the defense.

    my reasoning for this is: lets say we draft BJ Raji to place in the middle of the 3-4, if our run stuffing goes from 29th in the league to say, 20th, is that not being successful at DT?? the purpose of a DT isnt just to sack the QB but to stuff the run and eat up blockers. in fact DT’s arent getting to the QB alot anyway. unless they are the super talent like a Haynesworth or a Joe Greene from the Steelers.

    but if we draft a MLB and the run defense remains the same, that isnt success regardless of how many tackles a MLB may have. its about the success of the team, not the individual. and a stout D-line will make the ENTIRE defense better. just look at the Giants, Steelers, Patriots, Ravens and Vikings. they all have great D-lines and that makes everybody else on the defense look better. its like on the DP alot of the whiners there think Nnamdi Asomugha would make the defense better. but when a QB has 10 seconds to throw, it doesnt matter how good the players in the back 7 are. they will get beat alot. as evidenced by the past 3 years. but a great D-line like the Giants had last year will make average guys look good and good CB’s look great.

  • kerry

    another point i wanna make about the importance of the D-line. ill use the Patriots as an example. the 4 LB’s they had when they won werent first round picks. Ted Johnson, Willie McGinest, Mike Vrabel and Tedy Bruschi werent first round picks but were UTILIZED correctly and became solid to great LB’s. but what they did have in front of them are 3 ELITE D-linemen. Richard Seymour, Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren are ALL first round picks. all have been to the pro bowl at least once. they have an ELITE D-line that makes the somewhat average LB’s and secondary players good and great players. and this is what i do like about the McDaniels signing. he knows defense and how to build one. he was mentored by Belichick for years and has three rings of his own. he knows defense and is great at offense. ill bet anything D-line is where we go in the draft with not just the first but the second pick also. id like to see a top tier safety taken in the second round but it wouldnt surprise me if a DE was taken after Raji in the first. a guy like Senderick Marks or Ricky Jean-francois.

  • kerry

    katch22:

    so basically what you are saying is we should spend tons of money on overpriced free agents. Shanahan already tried to BUY a good team and it failed. putting all those guys on the team wont make the team any better. just look at the Jets this past year. all that money spent on free agency and trades made and they didnt make the playoffs at all. but teams like the Cardinals and Steelers, who build from within make it to SB’s teams cant buy championships. look at my New York Yankees. lol.

  • merc22

    It’s too early fro this, but i heard that Igor Ishanksy (DE from SD) will be a FA? If true get him, and vilma in FA. AND PLEZ DRAFT ONLY DEFENSE!!!

  • kerry

    miabronco:

    yeah im not impressed with Barrett either. i dont know where all the hype is coming from about the guy either. he was a combine warrior and nothing more. he didnt show anything toi say he will be a starter, or even on the team next year.

  • Jordan C

    miabronco and kerry –

    It might be very difficult to draft two great safeties after upgrading the D-line, so it’s more likely that the Broncos will only be able to significantly improve one of the safety positions this year.

    If I had to choose between improving the FS or SS positions, I’d upgrade SS because Manual has reached his potential, which isn’t that great. Barrett at FS has way more upside.

    That being said, I think that the Broncos will take either/or, whichever the best player is on the board when they pick in whatever round (likely 2 or 3).

  • Jordan C

    We should have pics associated with our posts. katch22, you write like your eyes are popping out of your head.

  • Jordan C

    Walterfootball has a great blog for info from the senior bowl and I think a few people on this thread (or whatever you call this) have read it or something similar.

    A 3-4 DE to look out for is Robert Ayers. He’s projected in round 4 or so right now, but he’s playing well.

  • Katch22

    Kerry,

    I think the Haynsworth or Peppers would be a great signing. The defense only plays as good as the line does and face it we have no anchor in place. At least with one of those two we can build off of that. Your right Mike S spent way to much for free agents but didn’t exactly pick any winners either. All I’m saying is the D-line has to be good or else everybody else suffers and we’ll have another bad defensive season again. But I think we are in luck with all the quality defensive players in the draft and free agency. I’m hoping MacD will take a good look at Leonard for safety though, kids a machine! What do ya’ll think about Robertson? Keep? Release?

  • robtink242

    Katch22 i’m with you on signing Leonard but the Ravens would be fools not to resign him. If available get him along with Igor Ishanksy. Barret play free safety. i do believe we have talented enough group of linebackers. Bobby Turner can make good out of 5 round back.

    Robertson out or traded.

  • flbronc

    as for you cant buy a defense arguement, i somewhat agree… if we try to pull three or four premier defensive players i think we will have the same problems the dallas offense has….

    having said that if we can get a haynesworth or a suggs i think we should do it. bringing in one superstar and plugging him in with champ and dj will work trying to bring in three is not only going to be pricey but wont work chemistry wise i dont think.

  • ssc

    holy crap did anyone watch the senior bowl practice on the nfl network today? maualuga was unstoppable shedding blocks. granted he was being blocked by TEs (maybe a couple RBs?) but he was so fluid and powerful that they barely even slowed him down. i don’t watch college ball, so i haven’t seen him actually play. so big caveat. but still, the ease and consistency with which he ran through/past blockers was impressive.

  • http://Raji mauibroncofan

    From Siruis radio comments and scout.com witeups it sounds like Raji is really helping himself at the senior bow, maybe getting into the top 10. I really wanted him at NT at the 12 position but he may move higher

  • dee

    * Just a note dee (as is me ) and Dee (as in the other individual that posts on the site) are Not the same person. That being said I do enjoy “Dee’s” comments….

  • Bucky

    ssc- If you think he was a beast you should have seen Raji the day before, the guy was a freak, I watched him take some of the most highly touted lineman from this year and effortlessly drive them into the backfield, a couple of times knocking them flat on their backs and blowing by them in under 3 seconds. Truly amazing.

    I have to say, even though I really don’t want to, that I almost totally agree with Kerry on the outlook for 2009, I wasn’t sure if I was going to post on this topic, but I guess I will so here goes.
    This year’s draft is going to be the single most important thing in the post Shanahan year of 2009 for the Denver Broncos, with that in mind we must look at our largest areas of need, knowing full well that we have to many areas of need to cover all of them in one year. We must draft DL first, and we absolutely must go after BJ Raji, I think he will still be there at 12, Right now he is ranked in the late teens to early 20’s, but that number WILL improve, I’m thinking it will go up to about 10-12. Luckily for us there really isn’t anyone in that range or even higher that has a need for a guy like Raji so the only real threat I see of missing him there would be if someone trades up to grab him. The problem is that we have some other glaring needs on defense, and unfortunately some of them are still on the D line. With Raji in I think a guy like Thomas will become more effective so I would say he stays but in a 3-4 we would still need one more guy, this would be the first FA I would go after, and the ONLY big name I would seek to persuade to make the move to Denver. For the other side of Raji I would go get Julius Peppers, this guy has the fire and drive we need plus the leadership and proven effectiveness that few bring to the table. (plus, the nick name is already built in, “Orange Julius”, goes right along with all the calls for the reemergence of the Orange Crush) That would take care of the D-lain starters and I would keep Peterson and Powel through training camp and have them battle it out for a backup role, and I would also like to see one more guy drafted in the second or third round to be backup/protégé in training, maybe a guy like Tyson Jackson or Matt Shaughnessy from Wisconsin. From the D-line we move backwards to the LB core.

    The LB core is probably the one position that should receive little or no attention on draft day prior to the fourth or fifth round, now I know a lot of people really want a LB in the draft, but hear me out on this, Linebackers are easily the deepest group in Free Agency this year, and a number of them won’t even be that expensive, Michael Boley and Leroy Hill will both be UFA this year and neither of them should cost a ton, I was really hoping for a guy like Karlos Dansby he is another LB I would love for the Broncos to pick up, but with the Cards in the Super Bowl he might get to pricey to handle. Aside from that, we have the talent to put 2-3 solid Linebackers on the field without making a single move. DJ is clearly still in, move J Moss to LB (where he should have been from the get-go) and get Larsen back into the action. We keep Winborn and Niko as backups (with renegotiated contracts) and let them tear it up on ST. Moving still further back our DB core will need some help in the draft.

    Champ and Bly stay right where they are (for now) and we look to upgrade the Safety position in the Draft. A guy like Sean Smith (Utah) is a guy that I watched all year, and I think he has the intangibles to be a starter in the NFL from week one, if we could get him in the Second he would be a steel and clearly a guy we should take, if not, Louis Delmas out of Western Michigan or Emanuel Cook out of south Carolina would still be good picks in the 2nd (I don’t think Chung will be there for us at 48 or I would put him on this list as well). If we wait on Safety until the third a guy like Sherrod Martin would still be an upgrade over what we put on the field last year. We keep Barrett and move Woodyard to SS but make him fight for the starting position against the guy we draft in the second or third, and put the one that loses in as a back up and Special Teamer.

    So in total the Starting Defense would look something like this

    D-Line Peppers…. Raji…… Thomas

    LB Moss….Larsen….Dansby (if we can get him, Williams if we can’t) and Williams stays outside (if we can’t pick up Dansby then we get Hill to put out there).

    DB Corners stay put. FS…. Barrett (I’m not sold on him either but I think he has some great upside potential so who knows) SS…. Woodyard or Smith, (or any one of the guys mentioned above.)

    I’m going to leave Offence alone for now, but this is where I think we should be headed on Defense.

  • http://myspace.com/paraleipsis jchase8410

    Wow, these really have been some well thought out answers to the problem on defense. Honestly, I would be happy with a number of these responses. I think we need to keep woodyard as a spot player on defense, but mainly as a ST player. We should put Barrett at strong safety, and whoever we draft at free. I know that a bunch of you aren’t sold on Barrett yet, but he really hasn’t had much of a chance with such a horrible d-line. Nobody has shown much of anything in the defensive backfield for that matter.

  • Jordan C

    I’ve said that we could trade down and get Raji, and then I changed to staying at 12 to get Raji, but if he keeps rising, there are two problems in the way:

    1. The Packers just hired Dom Capers as D-coordinator. They’ll be switching to a 3-4 most likely.

    2. The Niners defense sucks all the way around. They may take the best player on the board and that may be Raji.

    Hence, the Broncos may need to trade up if they want to get him.

    Is it worth it?

  • Roy

    No, trafing up is not worth it. If he is rising, that could mean that another player could fall into the Broncos lap. I wish I could say Curry, although I doubt it. Maybe Brown or Orapko? I would be happy if either falls to us and we can get a DT in rd 2.

  • Anthony33

    Enjoy all the comments and insights listed above. I love football, but do not follow college close enough to get anywhere near the depth of who to draft much after round 1 at best. Man, where do you guys get this stuff?

    I do know this, the game is won and lost at the line of scrimage. The Bronx have proven that on both sides of the ball. Get the defensive line fixed and you to fix the core of the defense. Add in a decent MLB and a decent free safety and they become much better if the d-line is stout. Works indentical on the other side of the ball too.

    Draft, trade for, or aquire defensive lineman.

  • Bucky

    I don’t see the Packers taking him, they have more pressing needs on Defense, the Niners might be trouble, but I think they will be looking for pass rush over run stuffer, I could be wrong on all of this, but i think Denver has a real shot at Raji right were they are at 12.

  • Bucky

    Roy- Brown and Orakpo are both reaches for us at twelve with the 3-4 coming in to town, Raji is the guy we need, he is a beast and the anchor a 3-4 will need, honestly i dont see brown or Orakpo going before 12 either, but if all three are still there we take Raji, if not God help our D.

  • Jordan C

    Bucky – I hope so. I just didn’t really think about it before now.

    Anthony33 – If you want some good info, google “NFL Draft Database”. There are several sites that provide links to the many, many mock drafts on the web. Most of them aren’t useful, but a few, such as Walterfootball and DraftCountdown, provide brief scouting reports and rank players by position. Some even speculate as to where the player might be drafted.

  • ssc

    bucky, thanks for your analysis, and i think i heard/read the same report(s) that mauibroncofan mentions re raji’s performance. i would go a little farther than you and say that, regardless of the current availability of quality FA LBs, i would as general policy always take an impact DL (esp at NT) over an impact LB. and unlike shanahan’s philosophy, i would always PAY for impact DLs over impact LBs or, in the case of the broncs, CBs. i would also pay for a ferocious, premier FS.

  • http://BroncoTalk.net Mr.East

    I agree with you ssc… and by agreeing with you I also agree with Jordan C and Bucky.

    Denver is in dire need of a impact DL right now, especially with the 3-4 switch. I’m intrigued to see what will happen to the LB situation once training camp comes around.

  • kerry

    yes. we are in DIRE need of a NT. we are in no way in DIRE need of a MLB. we need a safety MUCH more the another LB. if this team has any chance of competing this year they have up upgrade the D-line. no questions about it. with our offense and an improved defense then we can compete. sorry everybody but a MLB will in NO way make the D-line better. but a better D-line will make our current LB’s better. Maualuga isnt the guy. unless the D-line is upgraded in free agency then Raji HAS to be the pick. impact DT’s are hard to come by. and Raji is an impact DT with freakish ability. i think the love fest for Maualuga comes from some people watching the rose bowl game and not actually thinking about the most dire need for this team. same thing happened last year when everybody was screaming for Rashard Mendenhall.

  • Brian

    As much as I hate to say it, I think its time to trade Champ and see what we can get. He is getting old and less effective as we have seen over the past few years. Granted he was hurt most of this year, but he still had zero picks in the games he played and he can’t even cover Tony Gonzalez anymore. Bly is no good, but trading Champ for a few draft picks to a team that needs a corner might not be a terrible idea because this defense needs more than a few picks to help it out.

  • kerry

    i just watched ESPN and Mel Kiper had a mock draft going and he even predicts Denver will take BJ Raji at 12. i hope he is right.

  • http://myspace.com/paraleipsis jchase8410

    I was just reading the walterfootball mock draft, and thought it was funny that they have us picking USC players in the first and second rounds. I figured that would get all of you Trojan haters going. I don’t see thAt actually happening, but it’s funny.

  • http://myspace.com/paraleipsis jchase8410

    Did anyone read the DP article about McD’s latest coach hirings? Talk about the epitome of nepotism. He hired his little brother as an assistant of some sort. He was a POSITION COACH at a high school in Ohio last season. That is a he’ll of a jump. Not even a head coach of a high school, and be jumps up to an NFL paycheck.

  • kerry

    one thing bothers me about all this. the Packers are switching to the 3-4. and they very well could select BJ Raji to be their NT. that bothers me because unless they CB (which they need very badly) we would have to move above them to number 8.

    which for arguments sake, lets talk about the OTHER DT from Boston College. thats right im talking about Ron Brace. 6-3, 329 pounds. he is projected 2-3 round pick. could be a good pick in the second round at NT should Raji not be available and someone else is selected at number 12. (please not Maualuga for god sake. fill a position that we NEED)

  • http://myspace.com/paraleipsis jchase8410

    Kerry, you have shot down everyone except raji. If he is gone at 12, why not go with Maualuga? Why are you so negative on him? He is the best defensive player available at that pick, plus in a 3-4 system, the linebackers are very important to stopping the run as well as the pass rush. He would be an instant emotional leader and bring attitude to a heartless defense. We could always pick up a safety, but aside from offensive line, the safety position is arguably the deepest in the draft class. I can’t see the Broncos passing up on a playmaker and emotional leader like Maualuga…all this could be a moot point of Raji is available when we pick at 12.

  • Roy

    I disagree about Brown, he is the prototypical 3-4 DE. That said, with the Packers whitching to a 3-4 also, I see them grabbing Raji. Trading up may be to expensive. Brace looks to be a good prospect, as does, imo, Evander Hood. There could be talk of Moala in the middle rounds, but I am not sold on him. I think he may be another overhyped trojan (whoever said that before in a post nailed it right on the head!). Depending on his combine, and whether he can add a little more to his frame, there is also Peria Jerry. We could very easily trade down and still get him.

    Kerry, what people see in Mauauausdlifkhads;ufhjluga (the LB from SoCal) is the hope for a Rocky Mountain Patrick Willis. The problem with that thinking is that he has no where near the talent of Willis.

  • Jordan C

    Packers taking Raji is a huge concern.

    Maualuga is overrated in the same way that Mays was overrated. a) he’s from USC b) he’s huge c) he’s fast. I grant you that he’s passionate and a great tackler. I really like that about him. But, I don’t think that he’s fluid and despite his pick 6 last year, I have questions about his pass coverage skills, which are also essential to a 3-4 ILB.

    Channing Crowder, on the other hand, is going on the Market.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/other/sfl-flspdolphins22sbjan22,0,194729.story

    He may not be player that Maualuga will eventually be, but he’ll be far far cheaper and knows how to work hard (Parcells player).

    I would say don’t trade up for Raji. It pains me to say that because I’m definitely drinking the Raji koolaid. However, the Broncos have too many holes to be giving up picks. Instead, if he’s gone at 12, then trade down 10-15 picks where there are far more choices.

    Brian – I hate the idea of giving up Champ, but you may be right. This team is moving towards youth and Champ is not helping with that. It’s about time for him to be asking for a new contract and I don’t see the Broncos giving him what he can get elsewhere. A preemptive strick in this regard might be the best, if painful, move.

    That being said, if they do trade Champ, the Broncos have to then use one of their top 3 picks on a cornerback.

  • Jordan C

    *preemptive strike*

    In my mind, Champ is still the best, but being the best and on the sideline for half of the games isn’t doing anyone any good.

  • kerry

    Roy:

    Maualuga is WAY overrated. the guy is not even near the level as a Patrick Willis or even Jon Beason. even the draft experts have him going lower then pick 12. Maualuga isnt polished in Pass coverage. i mean he reminds me alot of Nate Webster. alot of fire and emotion and willingness to hit a guy. but bad in pass coverage. if ANYBODY should be selected at 12 besides BJ Raji, its William Moore out of Missouri.

  • kerry

    and one other thing needs to be remembered. McDaniels is an offensive guy. i wouldnt be the least bit surprised if a franchise RB was taken at 12. it should defense with every pick in the first 4 rounds. but a guy like Knowshown Moreno could very well be selected with the notion of trying to wear down a defense with the running game.

  • Katch22

    I would be surprised if they took a RB in the first round. McD might be an offensive guy but he knows the D is what needs to be addressed. If he can’t get Raji at 12 then maybe they trades down to stock up on picks???

  • kerry

    i dont see McDaniels trading down at all. in fact i could see him trading up to get Raji BECAUSE they have 9 picks. the further you move down in the draft the less talented players are available.

  • Roy

    I don’t see him picking a RB in rd 1. I think they go after one in free agency. Ward or Sproles, imo. We also pick up LB’s in free agency. I love the idea of Crowder. He is passionate, a hard worker, can cover and tackle. I would would also say Dansby, but his price is going to sky rocket after the super bowl.

    I still don’t think we trade up. They either trade down, or stay put and select the best defensive player available, regardless of position. With that said, here is an interesting thought. i would not be surprised to see a draft day trade involving Champ or one of the other older players. We could trade him and a rd 3 or 4 to get another 1st rd pick. Not saying it is going to happen, but nothing would suprise me at this point.

  • Katch22

    I would be shocked if anything happened to Champ. I see maybe Bly or as bad as I would hate to say DOOM getting traded on draft day….. Other than that I see alot of cuts coming soon. Also I think DEN already has their eye set on certain players. You have to remember that between senior bowl and the combine the media blows alot of players out of porportion for the draft. Alot of busts are due to the media overating some players, look at Vernon Golhston. He shot up the boards due to the media right before the draft. Now I’m not saying anybody mentioned above is going to be a bust but alot of guys fly under the radar and McD knows that from being with NE and if he can get a couple more picks maybe thats the way to go???

  • Jordan C

    The reason they would trade down at 12 is there’s more pressure to take the one guy that they need and the best guy on the board at the same time. Plus the difference between pick 12 and pick 20 is probably $10-15 million. Of course the difference wouldn’t mean anything to me if I were an owner, but Bowlen is hard off and needs to save every penny.

    But seriously, if they traded up, they’d likely have to give up a 2nd round pick to get into the top 10. If they trade down and get a pick or two, they can use that extra pick to trade into whichever 1st round spot that they want to get the best player at the best value.

    FYI – William Moore is sucking it up at the Senior Bowl, apparently. He’s slower and stiffer than anyone expected. I’m liking Delmas, Johnson, and Hamlin more and more.

  • Jordan C

    Another thought: With Asomugha and Robinson being the only legit CBs on the free agent market, Champs value in a trade may never be higher. Just sayin’.

    I still don’t like, but you’ve got to consider stuff like this. We as fans tend to over value the players on our teams (e.g. Only a 7th round pick for Foxworth?! What the heck?). But I think that with Champ’s injuries, giving him up with a 3rd for a 1st is not unreasonable. Or getting two 2nds for him. We’ll see.

  • Katch22

    Your right about how we see our own players. I only real player I hated seeing on the field for us was Webster.

  • Gymshoe

    Everything the Broncos do will be based off this number: 15.2 million–our projected cap space. With that established, it must be noted that much of that money is all ready delegated. To wit: 25-30 percent of that will go to our 2009 draft class. A smaller percentage shall be paid to those we cut and owe. And more of that cap space will be lost to incentive bonuses reached. I don’t know how much free money that leaves us, but for arguments sake, lets call it 8 million. If someone has a better figure, please educate me.

    If we pursue 1 free agent superstar ie. Peppers or Haynesworth, or even Suggs, I would say that ends our FA activity for 2009. We need more bodies than that. I would like to think our best FA effort should be directed at Suggs less known cohort, Bart Scott–I believe he is an underappreciated LB that would shine here, and we should still have money left for other needs.

    Considering the quality depth of Day One picks this year, this may be an opportunity to trade the 12 overall down (1200 on the Value chart) for a One and a Two, with our goal being to get 2 impact defensive players, and the best skill-position offensive player available on Day One of the Draft. With the talent at OT in this draft, it is attractive to many teams to trade upward for this cornerstone position; we move down and end up with something like Cushing /Mayben/or Sintim , Marks/Raji/Jerry/or Hood, and Shady McCoy or S. Greene for example. If we were to sign Bart Scott, then safeties Chung/Delmas/Moore can be substituted for my LB examples above. And since its still January, lets recognize these names are quite fluid for the next few months…

    A possible dance partner I would like to see would be New England, if for no other reason than to go after the 2nd round pick they secured from San Diego last year. FWIW, the trade value chart on this trade = NE #1 (760) and SD #2 (440)…VIOLA 1200! (I love it when a plan comes together). For added spite toward the chargers, the SD 2nd round pick would result in selections back to back, Jack, since the Broncos currently possess the 48 overall.

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