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Published on 01/16/2013 at Wed Jan 16 11:19.
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Buzz: Rumblings of Whisenhunt, Moore begin

Posted Wed Jan 16th by

(Photo: Indianapolis Star)

For background information on all of the candidates to replace Mike McCoy in Denver, see our Ultimate Offensive Coordinator Fan Guide.

On Tuesday, the Broncos lost offensive coordinator Mike McCoy, who signed with the Chargers to become their next head coach.  Denver must now seek McCoy’s replacement.

One reporter, CBS‘ Vic Lombardi, says he was told it could take up to two weeks for the Broncos to name an offensive coordinator, which means it could happen tomorrow.  Among the candidates to get the job is former Colts offensive coordinator Tom Moore, who was an offensive consultant for the Titans last season.

Moore told Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean (via PFT) that he will not be returning to Tennessee and wants to be an offensive coordinator again.

“I’d like to get a job as an offensive coordinator in the National Football League,” said Moore.  “I don’t know if that is going to transpire or if that is going to happen, but that’s what I want to do. I don’t want it to be a deep, dark secret.  If it doesn’t, I certainly haven’t been cheated, but that is what I would like to do.  Anyone that’s open, I’m interested.”

Well, let’s see, who has an offensive coordinator position opening and an offense that Moore could run?  Oh! 

“Moore didn’t mention any specific possibilities, but there just so happens to be a team that just lost an offensive coordinator, which just so happens to employ a quarterback Moore is familiar with,” wrote PFT‘s Darin Gantt on Wednesday.  “Moore has only the thinnest background working with Denver coach John Fox, as they were with the Steelers together in 1989. But since the Broncos catered the offense to Peyton Manning this year anyway under now-Chargers head coach Mike McCoy, and Moore called that offense with the Colts, it’s simply a logical step to make.”

So, Moore’s an option.  But is former Cardinals head coach Ken Whisenhunt a more likely scenario?

Following Bowen’s tweet that he is “hearing” Whisenhunt will go to Denver, Mike Florio pointed out that Whiz would not cost much $$$, if any.

“Making the move a little surprising is that Whisenhunt will be working for free, unless the Broncos pay him more to be the offensive coordinator than the Cardinals were going to pay him to coach.  (Not even the Cardinals are that cheap.)

“But it’s a smart investment of his time,” wrote Florio.  “Whisenhunt already was likely to be on the list of coaching candidates in 2014; if the Broncos have another playoff season, Whisenhunt will be even more desirable.  The only potential drawback is that the Broncos could play so deep into the 2013 postseason that no team will wait to hire him.

“For that reason, Whisenhunt should consider asking for his official title to be “consultant,” which would allow him to take a head-coaching job elsewhere before Denver’s postseason run ends.”

Philadelphia and Jacksonville were the top two potential landing spots for Whisenhunt, but the Eagles position has been filled and the Jaguars are showing no interest in him.  That would leave Denver.

Whisenhunt and Moore appear to be the two most likely scenarios, but the Broncos could fool us all and promote from within (Adam Gase, anyone?).  Let us know your thoughts:  Who do you want to replace McCoy?  Let us know in the comments below!

  • AZDynamics

    I like the idea of Moore. Whisenhunt would come to the Broncos still looking for a HC job somewhere, and Gase, while he is sharp and apparently gets along well with Manning, is not an experienced coordinator. Moore is a self-described “young 74,” so he could be here as long as Peyton is. That could end the coordinator carousel for a while . . .

  • Gary_in_SD

    I like your logic. I was surprised that the Bears didn’t hire Whisenhunt. I think he’s a good coach and given the right players, will do well again.

  • Pete Baron

    I’m 100% on the Tom Moore hiring train. He should be heads and shoulders above all others we are looking at. Him and Manning go back a LONG time, and won a superbowl together (Moore has 3). Moore sounds hungry and energized to be a coordinator, which is great news. He also made a trip to Denver to be around Peyton and the Broncos earlier this year, so it’s fairly easy to connect the dots between the Broncos, Manning, and Moore.

    I think Moore having a long history with Manning will also help him come playoff time. Moore knows first hand that the Colts lived and died by Manning not playing good, not playing very good, but by playing lights out. Because of that experience and knowledge of Manning and the Colts, Moore will be able to calm Peyton down during the season and more importantly, the playoffs by reminding him that unlike during their time in Indy, Peyton merely has to play good for us to advance. He can talk about games, situations, etc from the Colts’ many playoff games and show him that this Broncos squad is vastly different (and superior) to those teams that Manning led. Because of that calming influence and ability to talk Manning off the proverbial ledge in the playoffs, I think the sky would be the limit for our team. Please, Please, Please Pat Bowlen and John Elway, Please hire Tom Moore! Convince John Fox that he can still go in his Prevent Offense every game because we’ll be up by 30 come the 3rd quarter. That way, Fox can still feel like he is a conservative coach.

  • Draper

    I put Tom Moore third on my want list. Great coach, great successes, but I would prefer a catfish (read: new) inserted into the coaching staff, an innovator, someone who can convince John Fox to take a risk. After ten years together how much could Moore really teach Manning that has not already been taught?

  • Pete Baron

    Might as well being back mcdaniels as OC if you want that. The thing Moore can teach manning is to calm down come playoff time by drawing on their time together in Indy when Peyton had to play lights out to win. Moore can use that mutual time/experience together to point out to Peyton that this team is balanced, so he shouldn’t feel the pressure he felt in Indy, and to instead just relax and play loose. THAT is why he’d be the perfect fit.

  • Draper

    Josh McDaniels is an incredible offensive coordinator. I think that John Fox may agree, based on the fact that nearly the entire offensive staff was brought in under McDaniels and then kept by Fox (including McCoy).

    Moore and Manning went 9-9 in the playoffs, they went 1-0 in Super Bowls. I think that Norv Turner and Ken Whisenhunt are both better choices at offensive coordinator, just look at what they do with the players they are given.

    Turner: Troy Aikman, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Emmitt Smith, LaDainian Tomlinson, Michael Turner, Darren Sproles, Michael Irvin… Goes on.

    Whisenhunt: Ben Roethlisberger, Kurt Warner, Jerome Bettis, Willie Parker, Edgerrin James, Hines Ward, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Santonio Holmes, Steve Breaston… Goes on.

    Moore: Peyton Manning, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, but mostly just Manning.

    I would be happy with any of them, but obviously some would make me happier than others. It’s a wealth problem and a great problem to have.

  • http://www.facebook.com/carlo.scuri.10 Carlo Scuri

    let’s make the Moore deal quickly and go back to work

  • Pete Baron

    The thing is that all of those teams were built by the head coach, and coached by the offensive coordinator. We’re looking for an offensive coordinator, not a head coach, so our OC will have to coach the roster he is given.

    When you think about Dynamic Offenses, do you think Steelers, or Colts? Cardinals, or Colts? 2006 49ers, or Colts? Early Cowboys or Colts? Personally, I think Colts.

    When I think Dynamic Offenses and the Coordinators behind it, I think #1, Josh McDanies with the Patriots, #2, Tom Moore with the Manning led Colts, #3, Pete Carmichael with the Saints. That’s it, end of book. If the OC is there to coach offense, not be the head coach, I want one of the 3 most dynamic offensive coaches that the NFL has ever seen, and it just so happens that one of the 3 is available…. I say GET HIM!

  • Doom92

    I disagree. I think Moore and Manning back together would be Indy all over again and could take forever to get back to where they were. As I pointed out in another post Peyton just had one of the best years he has had in years, maybe even ever and it was NOT with Moore. I think the change up has done him well and I think Norv or Ken can get ever Moore out of him (pun intended ;-)).

  • Doom92

    “After ten years together how much could Moore really teach Manning that has not already been taught?”

    Agree completely!!!

  • Doom92

    Here, here… I would say Ken first then Norv. Much better than the same ole same ole…

  • Doom92

    You could easily put Norv or Ken in that list in place of any of those guys with Drapers arguments alone. What makes you think that while the HC/GM may have acquired those players they sure didn’t make them who they were but the OC on the other hand probably played a very major role in it…

  • Pete Baron

    That was my point Doom. Norv was NOT the San Diego OC. He was OC for the Cowboys in early 90’s (good offense) and for 49ers in 2006 (blah offense). Whisenhunt was the OC for Pittsburgh (average at best offense). Moore was OC for Colts (Dynamic offense).

    Now, I’d be totally fine with Norv as our offensive coordinator, but I’d rather have Tom Moore be our coordinator. Manning had his record breaking years under Moore, NOT McCoy. Moore would be able to convince Manning that he doesn’t have the weight of the entire team on his shoulders unlike in Indy. He’d be our Colonel Trautman for Rambo (Manning). He was in the trenches with him. He knows how Manning is in the playoffs, and he can calm him down and convince him that the Broncos are nothing like the Colts, so he doesn’t have to freak out that he has to play lights out in the playoffs.

  • Pete Baron

    That’s the thing, Ken would be “same ol, same ol”… I mean, he was the OC for pittsburgh for heaven’s sake. lol. Have we ever said “the vaunted Steeler’s offense”? That’s what Whisenhunt brings. I’d be fine with Norv, and honestly, he’d be my #2 choice behind Moore. Although I’d welcome Kenny to the team, I’d rather have literally a dozen offensive coaches ahead of him.

  • Pete Baron

    here here!

  • Doom92

    I disagree… Norv just good in Dallas, I’d say great with the super bowls to prove it and Ken average enough to win a Super bowl in Pitts as an OC. And you can say what you want but the numbers do not lie that Peyton just had one of his best years Ever…

    Like I said I disagree. I could say things to make my point as well but that facts of the case are the facts of the case. And how do you know that Moore could convince Peyton of anything he doesn’t already know, you make it sound like he is a rookie! Peyton knew this year he didn’t have to do everything, he said many times through out this year this was the best “team” he has played on.

    That is, no matter how it is spun, is what it is.

  • Doom92

    Whelp I think you’d be wrong but this isn’t the first time we have disagreed nor will it be the last. I also would disagree that there are a dozen out there that are better. It would seem that we are for sure not going to change the others mind here, So I’ll agree to disagree ;-).

  • Pete Baron

    Moore doesn’t need to teach Manning anything, neither does Norv or Whis. What Manning needs more than anything, is a calming influence over him in the playoffs. Moore brings that because they’ve been there together, and they knew that the weight of the team was on Manning’s shoulders. Because of that inside knowledge and experience together, Moore can and is the ONLY person who can possibly show/convince Manning that the Broncos aren’t reliant on him playing lights out, but simply average. He’s the only person who would be able to calm Manning down enough to be a winning QB in the playoffs. Norv and Ken don’t bring that. Gase doesn’t bring that. Only Moore can bring that.

    Look, Manning is Manning. He doesn’t need anyone to teach him anything. He needs a calming force come playoff time, period.

  • Pete Baron

    haha, agreed. haha

  • Doom92

    Moore couldn’t “calm” him in Indy but he can here??? I disagree. I don’t think it is near as simple on the surface as might be thought.

    Its kind of like an election or something close. All typically have there horse so to speak but after all is said and done they will pick who they think is best, regardless of whether we agree or not. AND we will, hopefully, support them. If it Moore I hope he does all that you think he will and if it is either of the other guys I’ll hope they can do what I think.

    It is fun to banter about it none-the-less though ;-).

  • Doom92

    As always Pete you are part of what makes being here fun…

  • Mergrath

    Flame me if you want but I think they promote Gase to keep McCoy from plucking him away for the Chargers OC. Just my thinking. Wouldnt be surprised to see Moore brought in as a consultant either.

  • Pete Baron

    I can’t connect to WP to post an article about this, but multiple sources including the Denver Post are all saying that Adam Gase has been hired as our new Offensive Coordinator.

  • Pete Baron

    multiple sources are saying that Gase is the new OC.

  • areferee

    It’s Adam Gase… not the Whiz.

  • Mergrath

    It makes the most sense to me. I am sure Manning would have signed off on it as well. I have faith in the organization to make the right call on this one.

  • areferee

    Adam Gase. I prefer Adam Gase. I think he is going to be the choice… hehehe.

  • http://twitter.com/jheath_DEN Jon

    Great call! =p