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Published on 01/24/2012 at Tue Jan 24 09:54.
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Broncos’ Allen frontrunner for Raiders coaching gig

Posted Tue Jan 24th by

The Denver Broncos may be searching for a seventh defensive coordinator in seven years after all. Tweets Adam Schefter:

It is interesting, though, that the Raiders made Dennis Allen a “leading candidate” but didn’t hire him outright. Does the search continue in Oakland, or could Allen be currently mulling a job offer from the Broncos’ AFC West rivals?

  • flbronc

    crap. 

  • http://Facebook.com/BroncosZone Jon

    It sucks because not only do we lose a great DC, we lose him to Oakland.

  • broncodude

    sucks. replacements? jack del rio

  • Anonymous

    I SERIOUSLY HOPE NOT!!!  The revolving door that is the DC spot NEEDS to stop bleeding.  Elway better do the right thing and lock Allen in damn it!  >_<

  • Denver Dog

    Our defense was horrible against good teams.  Look how many times we got blown out.  I thought Fox was supposed to be a great defensive mind.  Maybe he can find someone good to come in and fill the vacancy.

  • flbronc

    seriously?  we lost by 20 4 times (in 18 games).  those were all mostly a function of too many offensive turnovers.  we held the opposing team to 15 points or less 6 times.

    that is such a huge improvement from the swiss cheese we had the years prior.

  • flbronc

    amen

  • Fan From Spain

    damn it!

    Del Rio would be a good option if Allen leaves.

  • Anonymous

    What hurts more than anything is that this would mean we would have 8 different defensive coordinators in 8 years (as soon as we hire a new one). We need STABILITY before we can start improving our defensive consistency.

    Were we the best defense last year? No, of course not, but it’s hard to get good when you have no identity, and it’s even harder to get an identity when for what could be 8 straight years, you’ve had 8 different coaches.

    We showed improvements last year with Allen. We weren’t consistent, and we crumbled against very good teams, but that is not necessarily a knock on Allen because this was his 1st year with the team. Great defenses, much like great offenses, take time to build and coach. Give Allen 3 years and we might have a dominant defense. The obvious problem is that our defensive coordinators seem to be unable to get more than 1 year, and that is definitely hurting our defense more than the changing of coaches helps it.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty much what Jon said.

    I would be OK with McCoy going.

    I would HATE to see Allen go..then to the Raiders…that’s super deflating.

    This isn’t a pit stop on the way to a HC gig or the unemployment line. The FO needs to get this under control.

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t that be funny? Del Rio gets fired (allegedly) because he didn’t draft Tebow, and Jax sat by and watched Tebow take a pathetically bad team and win the division, win a playoff game, and singlehandedly become the biggest tv ratings monster globally. So as punishment from the football Gods, he can go to Tebow’s team and sit by and watch him play without being able to take any credit for him. haha. Just kinda ironic

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SLK4DTKKWEXGSFO2IX6G222J4M King

    How do they “get it under control”.  Assistants are free to interview once the season is over. 

    The vast majority of assistants aspire to be a head coach, sooner or late. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SLK4DTKKWEXGSFO2IX6G222J4M King

    I agree.  Del Rio would be a great find.  Mike Singletary would also be a close second.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SLK4DTKKWEXGSFO2IX6G222J4M King

    That would be funny.  Never really considered it.  lmao

  • Anonymous

    You’ll notice that more often than not, the “genius/great” offensive coordinators become head coaches with fantastic defenses, and fantastic defensive coordinators usually end up with great offenses when they become head coaches.

    Just because Fox was a great DC and then in Carolina had a good D doesn’t mean it’ll happen like that here. A head coach is not a coordinator, so they won’t necessarily “build/coach/teach” the defense or the offense. If you want Fox to fix our defense, you hire him to be the DC, not the HC. All Fox can do is hire the coordinators he likes best and try to help when he can.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SLK4DTKKWEXGSFO2IX6G222J4M King

    You gotta give Fox more than one year to turn our D around.  I think we’re gonna be pretty tough when the season starts.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SLK4DTKKWEXGSFO2IX6G222J4M King

    That’s the worst part:  Oakland (puke)

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, like Fox said, it’s a tribute to our success that both our coordinators were getting HC interviews. About the only “weapon” you have to keep your coordinators on your team when other teams want them as their coach is the “in a few years, our HC will retire, and you’re in line to take over and keep us dominating the nfl.”

    I’m not sure there are many teams that would qualify as that… maybe San Diego cause Norv is always almost out. Maybe if Billichik wants to retire in a few years and Brady can still play for 6-7 more years. The Colts were a prime example when Dungy was going to retire. They could have used that “Dungy is gonna retire, if you turn down team X, then next year or the year after, this team is yours, and Manning still has 10 years left”…

    Only in those situations would a coordinator ever want to stay with their team if they were offered a head coaching job. Look at all the coordinators who flop as HCs, then go back to being coordinators, then flop as HC, the go back to being coordinators, and then even though history says they’ll flop as a HC, they still take the job, and then flop. Rinse and repeat. That right there shows you how big of a draw the HC job is, even though you know that you’re not ready, or that you’ve failed time and time again. Just like a promotion at your job, being a great coordinator is usually gonna get you the “promotion” to head coach, just usually not on the team you’re coordinator for (unlike Jason Garret who was I think paid as a head coach while being coordinator, and then guaranteed the HC job when Wade leaves/got fired).

  • Anonymous

    The FO grants the permissions to interview the staff. If you want to keep Allen (or any staff member) you deny that permission.

    But now you have me thinking about it. Allen was the NO DB coach..our secondary was torched by alot of offenses. Was he the reason the entire D played really well, or was it a combination of Fox helping Allen?

  • TD30ismvp

    I slightly disagree Pete, I understand what you are saying but Fox can have a defensive philosophy which works no matter who the coordinator is and the new DC would work within that framework.

  • Anonymous

    I would love Singletary. We need a coach who is tough enough to pull out his johnson in front of his team in order to prove a point. Gotta get our team tough! lol

  • Anonymous

    I completely agree with you. I was just saying that although the coach can give an overall team philosophy such as “we’re gonna be a run first, defensive dominant team”, he can only do so much of the actual building.

    To put it into general terms, Fox is an architect, and he designs a house that he loves and knows his clients will love. From there, he hires the construction crew around him that he best thinks can get his house from the conceptual level and into reality. He won’t swing the hammer, and he won’t paint the walls, but he will hire the crew to do it, and he will tell them the color of the paint.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SLK4DTKKWEXGSFO2IX6G222J4M King

    I know they can deny permission, but if a team does that, then no one will want to coach here anyways. 

    This may actually be an opportunity to get a better DC than before. 

  • Anonymous

    The thing is that you can’t deny the interviews unless you never want to be able to hire any coordinators because the coordinators know that there is no potential for advancements.

    There is a hierarchy for coaches. Usually a specialty position coach (QB coach, DB coach, DL coach etc) moves up to become OC or DC, and then they move up to become head coach.

    I’m sure Fox held Allen’s hand a few times, and as the head coach, it’s his job to help any way he can and to give overall suggestions like “you need to be more aggressive here and less aggressive there”, so it was a combo, even though we don’t know how much of a combo.

  • Anonymous

    Why would any coaching candidate even consider signing on w/ the Raiders?  So he can get fired next offseason? 

    I don’t get it. 

  • Anonymous

    Bring back Larry Coyer!

  • Anonymous

    You crack me up herc

  • Anonymous

    Del Rio or Singletary would be great.

  • Anonymous

    I get the hierarchy.

    I think my point is being missed. Stability in the staff is important. Changing coordinators every year is rarely productive.

  • MeOMy

    I agree with herc_rock! It is the only way to break the DC curse. Coyer was a scape goat the year he was fired. He then sacrificed a goat to curse anyone who became the Bronco’s DC.

  • Anonymous

    That’s an interesting analogy, but it’s not really true. Especially since every franchise delegates responsibility differently.

    Fox may not “swing the hammer”, but he picks out the hammer, tells the guy how to swing it, and if he does a poor job then he swings it himself.

  • Anonymous

    No. That would be the worst thing to ever happen to this franchise.

    Jack Del Rio is a horrible, horrible person.

  • Anonymous

    Del Rio is lazy and awful.

    Singletary was only effective as a positions coach.

  • lookn4H20

    Damn say bye to Allen. Just signed with Chokeland

  • areferee

    More info please, David.

  • areferee

    Allen out to Silver and Black.  How about GB’s Mike Trgovac instead of Del Rio?

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t that what gets head coaches in trouble? They try to have too much control over all aspects? Hire good people around you, and then you don’t spread yourself out so thin that you jeopardize the team.

  • Anonymous

    We must be thinking of a different Jack Del Rio then. The one I’m thinking of was the LB coach for the Ravens when they won the Super Bowl, and had the second best defense in the NFL as the Panthers DC.

  • Anonymous

    Did you see the GB defense this year? No thanks.