2012: Tebow Will Start; Broncos Will Wear Orange

I’m so happy and proud that Tim Tebow will be the starting quarterback next season. Next season is going to be a great year for the Broncos.  But I do hope they get some better defensive players and offensive line.  It take a whole team to win and lose and right now they do have a great leader.  And I’m loving me some orange.

I thought we changed our jerseys the year we won the super bowl, not the year before?

Anyways, it’s “offseason” time! Glad Elway said Tebow is the starter entering training camp. That means he’ll get all the 1st string reps in the minicamps, qb camp, and training camp. It’s well deserved and it’s about freaking time this organization said Tebow was something besides a week to week player. I think he would have done more this year if he was given that  reassurance earlier.

I think it’s defensive drafting time. Time to get another CB, DL and possibly Safety. Moore isn’t looking that good, but it could just be because he’s a rookie and he needs more time. Remember, our rookies didn’t have a typical offseason, so it’s understandable that they are “behind the curve.”

I also think we need a young RB and another WR to go with more OL depth. While McGahee played great this year, his age showed itself with all his recurring injuries. I don’t like Ball as a runner, and Johnson is a question mark to say the least. So I think RB is a need, as well as maybe a FB. We need OL depth, especially with Kuper’s injury. Who knows how that thing is gonna heal. We also need another WR. Royal is UFA, Decker keeps dropping passes, and Willis is skinnier than the cheerleaders. Thomas needs to not hurt himself and continue to develop, Decker needs to learn how to catch a pass from a lefty, Willis needs to eat cheeseburgers, and we need to get another WR in case any of those 3 scenarios don’t pan out, or just in case we want to show a 4WR set.

I must have worded that wrong. Following a 1996 playoff loss, they changed prior to the 1997 season, in which they won the Super Bowl.

I really like the switch to orange! With a younger, more experienced defense, its the return of the Orange Crush! Props to everyone that spoke out, put all the votes out, etc.

As of now, Elway says Tebow is the starter going into training camp. No kidding! Take a look around John, there aren’t any other QB’s on the roster….yet. What a way to commit without committing. He’ll get alot of much needed reps with the 1’s, and its ultimately his job to lose.

I’m still hoping for Nick Foles in the 3rd round and another young veteran to come in and push both Tebow and a rookie for the starting job, not just to stand around with the clipboard. There needs to be a back up plan in place, just in case things don’t go as well as some of us hope they do.

Looking at our schedule next year..we have some big time QB’s to go against. Phillips Rivers and Carson Palmer twice. Rothlisberger, Andy Dalton, Schaub, Brady, Brees, Can Newton, and Matty Ice. Big improvements in the defensive back field and interior D-Line is a must if we expect to be anywhere near a 500 (or better) team. A full off season will be great for Tebow, but also for Rahim Moore and Carter. There will be some really good D-lineman hitting the open market, so I’d really like to see a DT come in that way. Draft wise, I’m going after a CB in the first.

I think we’ve seen the last of Moreno and (sadly) Eddie Royal in Denver uni’s.

I love Foles. I’ve been singing his praises for months. However I bet he’s gone early in the 2nd round. Why? Here’s the draft order:Indy, St. Loo, Vikings, Browns, Bucs, Redskins, Jaguars, Panthers, Dolphins, Bills, Chiefs and Seahawks. I count 7 who really need to address the QB position. There are 3 top options: Luck, Griffin and Flynn. That leaves 4 teams picking in the top of the 2nd desperate for a QB (Think Dawson and the Bengals last year). Even if some of those teams pass on QB in the 2nd, they’ll pick before us in the 3rd. He’ll be long gone before our #25 pick in the 3rd comes up.

You are sooo right Big Pete. You just echoed what 90% of the Bronco’s fan base has been saying since mid-season! I can’t wait to see what comes out of a full training camp and Tebow actually getting some QB coaching and the receivers learning to catch a lefty’s pass. Bring it on Orange Crush!!!

Of the teams you mentioned, I only count 5, possibly 4 if one of those 5 snag Matt Flynn. My 5 are Indy (Luck), Skins (trade up to 2 for RG3), Jags, Seahawks (Get Flynn), and the Fish. The Jags, Browns and Fish are unknowns for me right now, but if we could move up to early 3rd, I think we can snag Foles.

Tannehill, Wilson, Kellen Moore, Case Keenum, and Brandon Wheeden will also be in the mix.

The Bills and Bucs, I think give Fitzpatrick and Freeman another year. And the Bowns build around Colt McCoy instead of replace him.

If the Jags go after someone it will probably be Tannehill.

Its probably just wishful thinking…here’s to hoping Nick flies under the radar and right into our lap! Lets see what the Combine does for some of these guys.

Yep Chris, by no means is he totally convinced and it will take significant and continual improvement for him to be convinced.  This is why I am really interested in seeing which FA and/or draft picks are brought in.  From that statement, among others Elway has made (and hasn’t made) it tells us there is going to be real competition at the QB spot this offseason.

As it should be. 

Timmy bubble, that was funny. 

If you go by what the fans want then Tebow is the right choice by far. They’re  already selling statues with Jesus as a Tebow fan wearing his #15 jersey on ebay! Check it out : http://www.ebay.com/itm/280808333638?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

“I thought we changed our jerseys the year we won the super bowl, not the year before?”

You are correct! It was the first year of the then “New Logo” as well. After we beat the Packers I had it tattooed on my right shoulder blade… Thats how I know! ;-)…

Just saw this after I posted it below… Agree 100%.

Timmy bubble, thats awesome, if we had signatures in here I’d quote that in mine for sure…lol.

Oh and just how committed Timmy is to being an NFL QB.

I like your layout Leo, very good back ground (love your homework). However I’m not sold that Nick is a 2nd rounder. He has a butt load of upside I give you that but he has some troublesome cons that could be hard as well.

Like it Mr Hansen, alot. I know all think I just hate Tebow (not true)… Hoping very much for an awesome healthy competition there…

haha, I was thinking Nate Webster. I’m like “depends on what day of the week you look at to see if Webster is on the roster.” haha

But yes, Webber is A) Practice Squad so not under contract for 2011. Personally, I think we can keep him if he’s shown decent progress. Look, we don’t need another option QB. All we need is a “mobile” QB ala Jake Plummer. The only difference would be instead of handing the ball off in front of him, he normally hands off the ball or decides to tuck it and run instead of pulling it out of Willis’ belly.

Plummer could run this offense beautifully, so the myth that we need to go “all in” on this play style, and with drafting a Tebow clone is vastly overblown. Mobile, athletic QB is the way to go. Bootlegs are equally effective as read/option, so honestly, it isn’t like we are re-inventing the wheel here.

aWesome! Well done sir!!!
Yeah, I think Jon just worded it a bit awkwardly, cause to me, I read it as we changed our jerseys at some moment in time before 1997 and then following the jax loss (F you MDP), the next year we won the SB. So yeah, I read it as in 1996 we changed.

Actually, Weber and all of the other practice squad players were signed to future contracts on Monday.

Agreed. That is the part of the sentence everyone should pay attention to. Aside from a handful of QBs in the league, all starting QBs are only the starters going into training camp. The “he’s our starter until he retires” tag is really only bestowed upon a few, so until Tebow proves otherwise, “starter going into training camp” is about as fair of a shot as most QBs in the NFL have.

I’ve pointed out before, and I’ll say it again, I hated the fact we drafted Tebow. I threw couch cushions at my tv cause I was so pissed (equally pissed we took D-Train over Dez back then too). I have since rejoiced that we have Tebow on our team. I’m also glad we took Thomas over Bryant (man that dude is a headcase). It only took midway through Tebow’s rookie year before I truly, honestly, wanted Tebow to be the starter. I was converted, although, I still remain(ed) objective.

I love Tebow’s attitude, commitment, and work ethic that he brings to this team and his position. I witnessed nothing on this team change except inserting Tebow and releasing our best WR, and watched our whole team gel and come together and start playing for eachother. That led to wins, which led to us being in a position to be able to lose our last 3 and still win the division and then we won against the Steelers!

I really really really want Tebow to be anointed the “franchise QB”, but I know it’s premature. I whole heartedly believe that Tebow will prove to be a franchise QB by the end of next year or the following year. I think we need to give him a chance. The kid is young and still learning. They need to give him a chance to have the whole offseason, camps, preseason, and regular season as a pass, and then at the end of it, evaluate. I think that’s only fair. We can afford to put off drafting a top tier QB for a year; however, we can not afford to let Tebow walk prematurely and watch him develop into Steve Young on another team! That would scar this franchise, the front office, and the fan base far more than any 1st round QB bust has ever harmed a team in the past. We can not allow that to happen to us! We need to do everything humanly possible to keep that from happening!!!

As people say you can’t compare Tebow’s first 16 games to Elway’s first 16 games to show that Tebow has what it takes to make it, I would say that you can not compare Tebow to the Breese, Bradys, and Rogers in terms of “we need a franchise QB like those guys, and Tebow isn’t like those guys” becuase lets face it, those guys weren’t “those guys” after 2 years -or- 16 starts! Rogers was horrible his 1st year as a starter (4th year in league). Brady had worse numbers than Tebow in passing, TD/INT, and obviously rushing in his 1st year as starting (2nd year in league) even though he won SB. San Diego gave up on Breese and drafted a QB 1st overall (Eli but traded for Rivers) because they didn’t believe that Breese was good enough, and he was injured. How did that turn out? Breese didn’t turn into “Breese” until his 6th year or so!

Yet here people are, saying “Tebow isn’t a franchise QB like Breese, Brady, Rogers, et al, so we need to draft a QB”…. It’s disgusting! Here’s a clue people, NOBODY is a franchise caliber QB after their 1st year in the league except Dan Marino! What we all need to do, both the Tebow supporters and the Tebow haters, is GIVE HIM TIME and GIVE HIM A CHANCE! If anyone has so much blind hate that they would give back a division championship and that win over the Steelers because Tebow was the QB and getting credit, then you need to find a different team to root for, because I really don’t want you rooting for the same team as me! I will never apologize for a win, or a division championship, so anyone who would give them back in order to get a player out of here needs to go root for the Raiders, because that’s pretty much what they do on a yearly basis.

Good call. I just heard that on the press conference. Yes, I’m listening to it for a 2nd time. haha.

I was with you for the most part right up to where you start telling others that they have to agree
with you or to cheer for some one else or to go be a Raider fan. That is what I HATE… Guys like you that tell others that they have to agree with you or they
are a Hater or not a good fan. That is pure BS. WHO the heck are you to tell someone what they have to think or believe in to be a good fan?

Pete I’ve agreed with you at different times and have disagreed with you as many others but I have NEVER told you how or what you had to think and have NEVER seen anyone else tell you that either.

I know give him a chance a whole off season bla bla bla he will get that so you have no need to tell others that if they do not anoint him the GOD of all QB’s they are bad fans…

Your statement to go be a different fan or cheer for some one else was both disrespectful and childish at
best. I ask again, who are you to tell me (or any one else) who I can cheer for and what my opinion has to be?

I’m the opposite, I was stoked when McD took a chance on him, not when he took him but for sure that he did. But just because I see it differently now doesn’t mean that I HATE the guy. I HATE people telling me what I HATE. And I’m damn tired of hearing you guys squawk about it.

And if because my opinion on it is different than yours and you don’t want me rooting for the same team as you, tough shit pal! I will NEVER apologize for my opinion being different than yours!!!

I agree draft a QB in the second or maybe the third round.

Foles does have a tendency to lock onto the primary WR a bit too much and only progresses to the next guy if he’s under pressure, in which case he checks down. That could be because of the receivers inability to get open, or a collapsing pocket, or just Foles himself.

I like to see Royal stay..He’s been one of my favorites since he was drafted, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is playing else where next season.

Quite honestly, RB’s are a dime a dozen. If we draft one that’s not named Trent Richardson, it’d be wasting a pick we could use on a defensive player.

Speaking of defensive players Doom, I see you boy Dre Kirkpatrick got arrested for some weed over the weekend in Florida. That may drop his draft stock a bit.

Yeah Nick does lock on and he gets rattled under pressure even to the point of missing secondary target’s. Also doesn’t throw well on the run but certainly not something that cant be coached and gotten past. He for sure has up sides and I wouldn’t mind seeing him in a Broncos uni, but I doubt it seriously.

I don’t think that RB’s grow on trees at all but there are a good number to be had. If they grew on trees every team would have MJD or Ray Rice and of course they don’t! I as well disagree that picking one would be a waste, later round talent at RB is much better than some late round Defensive choices I think. How many 5th or 6th round LB or DB turn out as well as the same round RB’s?

Nope I didn’t see that… Freekin crazy how some of these guys are so stupid. They have the world by the balls and they still manage to blow it. If the report is true I wouldn’t pick him no matter what his talent. He wouldn’t be my first pick any way, I think Stephon Gilmore is the guy, I really like his size speed and run stopping ability. A run stopping corner that can cover just as well is rare.

I’ll “like” your post here and say “I’m sorry” to you, because somewhere along the way, I made things unclear as to whom my statements were directed.

I think you are thinking that I am telling you to root for the Raiders… Nothing could be further from the truth my man. I was using the general sense of “you” or “we” and what not. I didn’t mean specifically you, lol. I love constructive criticism of our team and all players involved. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear in my post. If I knew that was how you took it, trust me, I would have apologized to you earlier, because that wasn’t my intention at all. My bad.

What I was saying, or more aptly, trying to say in the post about rooting for the Raiders was this: “If you hate Romanowski, did you hope that we lost the superbowls because he was on our team?” “did you hope we sucked those 2 years and he was a reason we sucked so we would draft his replacement, and thus, not win the super bowls?”  cause I mean, who would ever say that? But I’ve seen lots of people do exactly that this season because they don’t like Tebow. And again, that’s the general “you”, not you you. lol

Anyways, that was my train of thought when I wrote that, because otherwise I’ll stand behind my post by saying that if anyone would actively root against the super bowl Broncos cause of 1 player, or this year’s Broncos because of 1 player, they are equally guilty, and either need to A) stop letting the “I hate this person” thought process affect how they root for our team, or B) need to root for a different team if they hate that player/person so damn much because ultimately, you should root FOR your team if there is any hope left for their season. If you don’t want to see your team win, then why the hell be a fan of that team? If them winning makes you miserable, then really, what’s the purpose of being a fan of anything?

And again, that’s the general “you” :) I value your criticism (most of the time) because more often than not, you are being critical because it’s justified, not critical because you simply don’t like a player.