Broncos 27, Eagles 30 Final

so does anyone know the tie-breaker situation?

MFGDSOBPOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once again I am left looking forward to the draft. YAY!

I Figure that we need to win…which is a duh…we need jets to lose to bengals…steelers to lose to dolphins, texans to lose to pats or ravens to lose to …right now we are still in at 8-7 according to espn

BREAKING NEWS according to ESPN WE ARE STILL IN THE PLAYOFFS

Crapy ending to a crapy year.Broncos are 1 good qb away from a superbowl.I blame Kyel Orten for this melt down.At least he only fell down 3 time.He still is scared out on the feild.
The Broncos D-line is 1 grate defence of lineman away from not bing decent.
Well thier always nesxt year.Looking foward to the changes this year.

Normally I am pretty positive about things in Bronco country but I would rather miss the playoffs and get a better draft spot than make the playoffs and not even be competitive. If we make it and get blown out, I may defect to Hockey fan or even contemplate Soccer (gag) as my sport of choice.

were not in the playoffs. the Steelers and Ravens have the same record as us and own the tie breaker over us.

HA HA HA HA I TOLD ALL OF YOU THAT SHANAHANN IS GOING TO THE BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALSO THE BRONCOS TRADED THIER FIRST ROUND PICK.BEARS WILL GIVE US THIER TOP 8TH PICK NEXT YEAR.
BUT BRONCOS LOOSE NEXT WEEK ANY WAYS.

Traded our #1 pick away for Alphonso, so draft positioning is irrelevant. At least the bears and jay-c suck worse than us. Small consolation. I need to get a hobby. This should not hurt as much as it does.

Stay classy milelows.

thats why the guys on ESPN say we are in if we win

Honestly, we were 3 non-paid-off referees from winning this game easily. Josh's refusal to use Hillis in a meaningful role is frustrating, but c',mon the ridiculous calls on 3rd down, pass intf. on bailey,not even close, the one on the same drive against celek, did not happen, and the Maclin catch at the end, a call on the field has to have irrefutable proof to be overturned, not there. Lurie and fast eddie rendell had the zebras in their pockets. That's what I will be telling my philly relatives tommorrow.
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missing the playoffs does not get denver a better pick as our pick went to seattle.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8147d1…

Its ben confirmed the broncos lost thier play off spot.The nfl network said if Broncos are out.

NFL.com just updated and has us in right now…i dont get it, we should be out right now…

For the Broncos to capture an AFC wild-card spot, there are two scenarios more likely than others:

* The Broncos beat Kansas City, which would improve their record to 9-7, and either 8-7 Baltimore or 8-7 Pittsburgh loses. Baltimore and Pittsburgh have the head-to-head tiebreaker on the Broncos. Baltimore plays at 5-10 Oakland next Sunday and Pittsburgh plays at 7-8 Miami.

* The Broncos beat Kansas City and either the Houston Texans beat New England, or the New York Jets defeat the Cincinnati Bengals. In this scenario, even if Pittsburgh and Baltimore win their games, the Broncos would get in because the head-to-head tiebreaker falls away.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14…

Dumb call of the game 4th and 2 from the Eagles 40ish and you call a punt which only nets 20 yards in field position change. Broncos need a new punter

Thier roung the ravens owne both tie breakers.nfl .com.thier are not right dont get your hopes up.
Thier going to loose to the chiefs next week.

According to NFL.com , the Broncos are the 5th seed right now ….

Can this be true?!!??!

wow thier still in baltimore has 3-3 divison record broncos has 3-2 record in thier divison record so thier in.

exept seattle owns our 1st rd pick

Denverpost.com says they need help, NFL.com says they are in, who to believe?

thats true…because there would be no head-to-head sweep with another team like houston or the jets involved…

Thats a big F you in your face Mileslow , and if Denver wins sunday they'll have an even better divison regard because Baltimore and Pitt are done! suck on that bitch

since baltimore and denver are in different divisions their respective division records dont matter

New coach, basically new team, same old result at the end of the season.

They must be using the 3rd and 4th tiebreakers

# Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
# Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

ur right has to be cuz with all these teams at 8-7, no one will have a head-to-head sweep, then it goes to conf record and houston and pit are eliminated so then it comes down to a three-way tie with us, the jets and baltimore in which we apparently have the tie-breaker w/ common games since we each are 6-5 in the conf

ESPN TV confirms …. Broncos need to win next week and they are in , currently 5th seed ….. WOW.

NFL updated as of 8pm …. Broncos are the 5th SEED.

Beat KC and it cements the entry and a rematch with the Cardiac Cats.

i think it might actually be true…as long as we arent stuck with pit and baltimore at the end we should get in

Look the ravens are out that what the nfl.com said.They have a better div ison record then the jets.Raven have 3-3 divison record,and the jets have 2-4 record so the ravens should be in and thje jets should be out.
so in saing that.Nfl.commay be roung about the broncos.

Tie-breakers ! the broncos have lost 7 of 8 it does not matter they have no heart! They will lose to KC next week. It is the the Broncos! They lost 4 in a row last year they will go 1 and 3 this year. They do not know how to finsh. That starts at the top! They picked the wrong guy again. By the way lose to the Raiders at home, you have no control of the team.

The Broncos dropped to seventh. They are going to have help now.

No, our first round pick went to seattle. There are 7 rounds in the draft.

They are in, the NFL isnt going to be wrong about their own tiebreaker …

You are the most annoying person to ever be born in the history of everything that has ever been born throughout the Universe.

Kyle, you really need to put out a post or something… we need clarification

Never have seen a poorer, more blatant officiating subjectivity than this…clearly the refs wanted the Eagles to win this game…If you don't see it this way you know NOTHING about football…The refs stole this game PERIOD…Broncos did not lose it…Memo to Philly fans: “You have nothing and are lucky….nothing else…nice try and nice fan base btw you guys are ghetto…

steelers lose to the dolphins keep dreaming
if the broncos and the steelers win next week steelers get the wild card spot because they beat the broncos already

Amen to that Dee!

God I wish punter were the only problem. Th entire O-line should be fired including Clady who plays like he wants to go fishing instead. I don't know how many more quick passes to the wideout for a 3 yard loss I can take. I think they call that play 40% of the time. If it onl worked more than 5% of the time it actually might be good. Send Tony (25) whatsisface back to the practice squad and cut Wes Woodyard before he giftwraps any more tds.

I’M TIERD OF WAITING UNTIL NEXT YEAR!

This is from espn.com and fatass Bill Williamson

The Broncos’ valiant, but unsuccessful comeback bid takes playoff control out of their hands. The loss further dramatizes Denver’s second-half nosedive. The Broncos started the season 6-0 but they have lost track of the past nine games. Denver could become the second team in 31 years to start 6-0 and not make the playoffs.

Denver needs help to get to the playoffs. The NFL is working on the playoff tie-breaker scenario now. I will pass it along when whenever I get it. (It could be a while).

Adam Schefter tweets:

AFC picture coming into focus: If Jets beat Bengals, they’re in. If Ravens beat Raiders, they’re in. Broncos, Texans, Steelers need help

Tie-breakers ! the broncos have lost 7 of 8 it does not matter they have no heart! They will lose to KC next week. It is the the Broncos! They lost 4 in a row last year they will go 1 and 3 this year. They do not know how to finsh. That starts at the top! They picked the wrong guy again. By the way lose to the Raiders at home, you have no control of the team.

Not sure what to think… but yes, if you look at ESPN and the NFL network playoff boards it does seem that if the Broncos win next week they are in… period. I don’t see how they could not get in by winning since, if the playoffs started today, they would be in.

Kyle, need your help to unravel the mystery.

The Broncos have to get defense minded. Like they should have with this years first pick at # 12! with Brian Cushing

This is from NFL.com tie breaker procedures.

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

So I guess the Broncos get priority in the division tie breaker and the head to head doesn’t matter because its more than 3 teams at 8-7.

This is the most confusing thing ever.

No thier are not Dee.No thier not

Thats a fact !

We all just have to face it ,the Broncos are done again ! They have to learn how to finsh thier own business.

oh my god everybody. its simple common sense. the Ravens and Pitt BOTH beat us. if they both win next week, regardless if we win, they are in and we are out. divisional records mean nothing when we have lost to both of those teams and are tied at the end of the season.

HA HA I TOLD ALL OF YO BRONCOS ARE OUT.

lets forget the playoffs for a second. here is a lovely little stat that we should all be mindful of.

9 carries for 18 yards. name that RB and get a prize! haha.

41 passes for 189 yards. name that QB!

Josh Mcdaneils just said we need help to make the plaoffs.

AFC Playoff tiebreakers
New England earns the No. 3 seed over Cincinnati based on strength of victory (.433 to Bengals’ .403).
Denver earns the No. 5 seed over N.Y. Jets and Baltimore based on strength of victory (.513 to Jets’ .492 and Ravens’ .387) and conference record over Houston (6-5 to Texans’ 5-6).
N.Y. Jets earn the No. 6 seed over Baltimore based on strength of victory (.492 to Ravens’ .387) and conference record over Houston (6-5 to Texans’ 5-6).
Baltimore finishes ahead of Houston based on conference record (6-5 over Texans’ 5-6).
Houston finishes ahead of Pittsburgh based on common games (3-1 over Steelers’ 1-3).

wow… We trade for a starting QB and draft a running back with the 12th pick in the draft and we STILL need a QB and a RB heading into next year.

What this team really needs is a good GM or player personnel guy.

UUUGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I certainly understand much of the frustration that is being expressed here, but realistically, the last 9 games have been more like most of the original expectations for this team.

Think back to the preseason performance and all of the frustrations we were all feeling at that time. Most of the pundits were predicting doom and gloom for the regular season. Few felt it possible to have anything but a losing season.

Well, we can’t have a losing season. At worst, 8-8. Realistically we will be 9-7. That is FAR better than most expected. Yes, we love our Broncos, but do you realistically expect THIS team to go anywhere in the playoffs, if by some miracle we squeak in?

I suspect we should be glad we didn’t end up 4-12 or 3-13. We have a long way to go to be a contender. We need numerous player changes and even a few coaching changes to get there. But face it…Shanny is gone and McDuck is the head bird and we’ll just have to build on what has to be considered a successful season, all things considered.

The NBC half-time break shows Denver as ‘in the hunt’ vs. the #5 seed as shown by the NFL network and ESPN.

What the heck… I don’tknow the answer, but you know it’s cut and dry based on the tie-beaker rules. And you would think ESPN and the frickin’ NFL network would surely get it right (well maybe not the nfl nw)… How then, can NBC be different?

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
Three or More Clubs

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

AREFEREE i agree totaly.First we need to get rid of Fall down Orten.

well, little boy coach, maybe you can talk to the bears and see if they have a real q.b. they might trade. you’re going to have to eat the one you have. after the mistakes of last spring you still have a few draft choices to use. maybe you can find some exceptional athletes who can win games as opposed to ordinary players who fit your system.

quotage from an AP article:

“The updated AFC Playoff scenarios for week 17 help several teams. The week 17 AFC Playoff scenarios most help the Denver Broncos and New York Jets, who just have to win their final game in week 17 to clinch an AFC Playoff slot.”

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2531019/week_17_afc_playoff_scenarios_look.html

oh and cbs also explains it well here:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace

Its ben confurmed broncos are out of the play offs.Jets hold the 5 seed baltimore holds 6 seed in the playoffs.

Does anybody else think that the stokely ejection was complete bullshit? and does anybody else think that the ref being uber flag happy in the first quarter was ridiculous?

HOW ARE THE JETS OVER THE BRONCOS IN THE PLAYOFFS.WE GOT BETTER DIVISON AND BETTER CONFRENCE RECORD AND THE BRONCOS HAVE A BIGGER MARGEN OF WINS.@##@ NBC!

As of 10:30 MST NFL Network says Denver still holds the 5 seed. To get into the playoffs they need a win over KC and losses by either Baltimore or New York. If all 3 teams finish with the same record, New York wins by common opponents, and Baltimore wins by head to head. Lets hope Cincinnati takes it to the Jets next week, because I don’t think the Raiders can knock off Baltimore.

wow, had to go nearly 60 comments to find some common sense….

Anything can happen in this league. the bucs won yesterday over the saints. your keep dreaming can be a reality

geez, thats the class I was thinking I'd see. were you there to see the Rocks choke up against the Phils too? …great heart your teams show. kind of getting to be a habit, this ending your season vs. Philly huh? we ghetto folk see the connection… check your local tv listings to see the eagles play playoff football in a couple of weeks. your schedule should be free, the broncos will be dusting off the 9-iron by then. need to return to my gutter now…..ha!

i respect our QB but when your in a 3rd and 2 and you can run for the first you should run and not throw on the run! he is not very accurate when he is moving!!! ugh, not to mention the refs bs calls against the broncs and not against the eagles….justice is blind…crap good luck next week!!! all in all a good season considering all the off season turmoil.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought the officiating SUCKED! The no call on Stokley when he gets spun around before the ball arrives was just one of many very poor calls that affected the game. Agree the Maclin catch was close but as you point out you need irrefutable evidence to overturn and what I saw was the ball starting to be cradled in his hands with feet down, a loss of control and as he pulls it to his chest to secure the ball, his right (?) foot comes off the ground and then he controls the ball without movement….that is a irrefutable evidence of a catch??? This is not to mention the endless holding calls on Doom and other defensive line, the grab around Carter's neck as he rushed the final field goal attempt, etc. etc. The broncos need to win it through there play and not depend on the refs to help them but I was baffled by many of the calls yesterday.

I just looked on NFL.com and they show the Broncos in the number 1 wild card spot, with the Jets in the number 2 spot.

with another draft like last year we could be going backwards!

hear hear the officiating was amazingly bad. I'd like to hear coach complain.

I'll reserve my final judgement on the last draft until a few weeks into next year. It's very rare to have a single rookie really make a difference in their first year let alone multiple rookies. Unfortunately, however, I must agree that I am currently leaning your direction.

Sorry for never writing a proper recap for this one, folks! Busy with holiday guests and travel, but we're back in the saddle for Week 17.

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