Cutler to be Traded

At this point- good riddance. Moving on.

Quinn and their 1st round pick.
Quinn is familiar with the offense McDaniels runs. For heavens sake, he flourished under Weiss, and Weiss pretty much trained McDaniels.
Cutler is shoing his (im)maturity, I say good riddance. It’s too early to tell if Cutler will be great or just a talented QB who can’t win games, so I’m not gonna cry too much.

Fire McDaniels QUICK

What a fucking disaster, send him to Detroit to suffer. Fuckin prick he is.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134 they took jay off the depth chart!

we need to make very high demands for Jay. I guarentee a lot of desperate teams would be willing to give up a lot for him. I say we ask for Quin, Rogers, and a 4th rounder, or rounds 1, 2, and 3 from Detroit. I bet someone will be willing to give it up…look what minnisota did for Jared Allen.

I hope he gets traded to the bears so Brian Dawkins and Champ can take turns picking him off in the end zone this pre-season. Its good for Cutler too, now he wont have to face the wrath of Phillip Rivers taunts twice a year.

WhidbeyBronco-
He’s still on the depth chart, look at the bottom: 2nd team Holder! haha

What a joke i can’t believe this is actually happening. mcDaniels absolutely created this problem, but Jay who the hell do you think you are is my question like come on man grow up fuck. This is a disaster either send him to Detroit with Scheffler for the 20th pick, 33rd pick and at least a second rounder next year or a first rounder if possible. If not send him to Cleveland for Brady Quinn, Shaun Rogers and their 5th overall pick. take Orakpo with that pick and Maualuga at 12 and I think we’ll be alright.

I am not angry, not sad, and not surprised. I am simply tired. Tired of waiting for this to end. With the end game in sight I just want to get the most for Jay that we can and wish him good luck. I am a Broncos fan and as long as Mr. Bowlen does not trade the Broncos away to another city I will still be a fan. I am a little nervous about this upcoming season, but buckle up, here we go!!

Here’s a couple great posts that don’t include the cussing and teeth grating that I can’t seem to disinclude in my own posts
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Yallas:
Bowlen interviews all the candidates and chooses McDaniels and says he has some Hawaiian word for wisdom and he hires him. The idiot coach nearly spends all the cap room on a backup QB that he is comfortable with instead of addressing that 14 million dollars on defense. The trade blows up and he still says no one is untouchable. You don’t treat a franchise QB that way. Cutler might need to grow up a bit. But one thing McDaniels doesn’t have is wisdom. I DON”T BLAME CUTLER a bit if this is a business like everyone keeps saying…I see…it’s ok to trade a player at your convenience but the player has no right to respond and ask for his own trade? Go Cutler…hope you make it to a team that can win a Super Bowl…I wish you the best!!!!!!!

Broncorob:
I still blame McDaniels for all this. This is a disaster for the Broncos and their fans. We finally get our next great QB and McDaniels pisses him off so much that he can’t overcome his dislike for McDaniels and forces a trade. What really makes me mad is that McDaniels had to tell Bowlen when he was interviewed is he would look forward to working with Cutler and then once he is hired he tries to get Cassell. Cutler should have been able to forgive and forget but he couldn’t.

Where’s Shanny now Pat?

…weakly …go broncos

The Day the Broncos Died.

Anthony-
No no no, if we have #5 and #12 we grab Raji and Tyson Jackson. Orakpo is fine, but no way Maualuga that high… or at all!

I say good riddance… anyone who acts like this big of a baby lacks leadership, a key ingredient for success… Yeah a team will give up a lot to get Cutler Denver will be fine without him… Cutler was a product of the system… Jake Plummer had more success than Cutler

RVG10
Now that’s funny!
Good eye!
Nice vindictive move Broncos! Bad Choice Jay! Really Bad Choices Pat!

I can’t think of a parallel in the history of the NFL of team trading their Pro Bowl 25 year old QB. No matter who you blame this is sickening for us fans. Quinn and a bunch of picks are our best bet.

Plenty of blame to go around here. Perhaps someday we’ll know the complete truth as to how this fell apart before it even got started. McDaniels displayed complete stupidity for 1) not letting Cutler know up front what was happening and 2) (IF) he then lied to him about it.

Cutler has wanted out since Bates was let go. He has proven to be gutless and childish. He may have an arm, but the leadership qualities are very questionable. He is the ‘punk’ so many others have described.

Good riddance Cutler, we’ll see how you do without Shanny’s system.

And McDaniels, you best start realizing this team belongs to the fans. This operating under a cloak is BS, that crap may fly in NE, but not here, not now, not ever. You have one year, that’s it, and you just lost your pro bowl QB. Tick tick tick.

Send the cry baby to the Browns so he can feel the Steelers D twice a year. We are gonna be fine with Quin who almost beat Cry baby Cutler if it wasn’t for the crapy D the Browns have.

I am sick. As a fan, this is a terrible thing. I don’t really know who to blame. Maybe all of ‘em. Every single one of ‘em. I can’t help but think that if any one of them had really wanted to fix this, they could have. Bowlen, Cutler, Cook and McDaniels, I think they all had the opportunity to fix this. Bowlen acted too late, McDaniels refused to admit he screwed up, Cutler refused to cope with a hard situation and play for a big contract this year, and Cook refused to overlook an opportunity to go for a gigantic contract once he saw trouble.

This makes me ill. I don’t give a crap what you say about Cutler, I think he is up there with Brady and Manning and in a couple of years, Broncos fans will look longingly at whatever team Cutler is winning with. (Or, like Palmer, whatever sorry team is dragging him down).

NotBradyQuinnNotBradyQuinnNotBradyQuinnNotBradyQuinnNotBradyQuinnNotBradyQuinnNotBradyQuinnNotBradyQuinn…

The only way McDumbass & Xanders could screw the pooch any worse is to f-up the trade! They’re already 0-1 in that department. Horrible free agency pick-ups and now everyone’s getting what they wanted – Bowlen has a coach not in control, McD gets to circle-jerk over his new QB project, and Cutler gets to leave a sinking ship. Glad my season’s off to such a great start.

E. Halsey Miles
great post!!

I’m so sick.

Wow, I’m speechless… I would have told someone they were absolutely crazy if they said this would happen 6 months ago.

Hey Miles you might be right but… A player that does NOT give a poop about the team and does NOT want to wear the jersey of that team, does NOT deserve the love and respect of the fans. He and his agent made their choice only time will tell who was right and who was wrong. Let all of us wish him good luck and lets move on.

What a disaster. What an arrogant coach, what a baby of a QB. This is so frustrating. I’m pissed at all of em.

I’ve been a fan since Elway but my allegiance is officially on the market.

JRODZ!!
Thanks for offering a worse scenario than this already worse one imaginable!!
OUCH!! Totally possible!

We gotta ask for at least 2 1st’s or a good player and a 1st and 2nd. Of the teams that want him I know it could be the jets, not sure about cleveland, anyone in the NFC north besides the Pack…who else?

This is like a bad dream no matter who you blame.Yeah, McD f*cked up, but Cutler really took it to an absurd level. What kind of team leader are you going to be if you ignore your coach and owner’s calls? He’s screwing us AND himself. Enjoy Cleveland.

This is horrible. Horrible.

jcampb72
Romo …for Shanny next year.

let the bidding begin… Im tired of this and want to move on. Get the best QB possible asap and have him start learning this system. We are all going to hear a hundred different trade scenario’s over the next 48 hrs… I just hope a team breaks the bank for Jay and we get something out of this mess.

Sweet lets get Raji and Jackson in the first Laurinaitis in the second. That way we have a rookie front line/lb’s, old DB’s, 4 third string RB’s, an uproven head coach, Top WR suspended, a bad denfensive coach who wears nice suits, and a QB who has no spleen. Hey but at least he hasn’t thrown a pass in two years, so he should be well rested. This team and owner is one white jump suit from being the Raiders. Just as I said in my other post. 4 years from now this team is going to be in LA and Bowlen will end up selling the team to Elway. I’ve already been kicked in the balls might as well step on them.

Walton
I feel your pain!

WhidbeyBronco – I really am holding onto a small glimmer of hope that nobody actually “Wins” this thing. Time to move on. This sucks on so many levels.

Great my son is due to be born tomorrow. So what do I do with the Cutler onesie i bought for him the day I found out I was going to be a father for the first time? Hey Mr. Bowlen, I want my money back! And don’t send me a Champ jersey or expect me to buy another one. Everyone’s is tradeable, how about our owner? How bout we trade him for the GM in San Diego. The guys a prick but at least he doesn’t get rid of the franchise player.

god i hate Bowlen! and McDaniels. the best young QB in the NFL and he is gone. well go fuck yourself Bowlen and McDaniels. you just set this team back 5 years. thanks Bowlen. you just HAD TO HAVE your Mike Shanahan JR. and now look at what he did! sad sad day in Broncoland. good luck getting the stadium to fill Bowlen. maybe when it hits your wallet you will see what a big mistake you made in hiring this idiot.

Let’s keep our cool and see what happens. Jay is worth a hell of a lot so I am confident if we do end up trading him we will get a ton. McD/Xman/Bowlin aren’t complete idiots and we are just seeing what offers are out there, Jay stays if we don’t get an amazing offer.

Happens tomorrow if at all .

I hope Jay stays and wins.

I’m just flat out pissed. Pissed at McD for starting it and pissed at Jay for not trying to work it out. We finally get another stud QB and the new coach messes it up. I know one thing, I am through spending money on jerseys of my favorite players. After I got burned by getting a Portis jersey, I held off until I was brave enough to get a Cutler jersey. So much for that………………….

We can’t say we didn’t see this one coming, can we?

Are we seeing an unwanted change in the game we love so much? Will all of the pouting star players get what they want?

I’d like to say I wish Cutler well, but for me, he now ranks up there with Al Davis in the villain category. Screw him, Bus Cook and his fat contract. Take your idiot haircut and your king-sized pouty bottom lip and go to hell.

And to those of you who think this is the mistake of the century to trade him- I really do respect your opinion, but how could we keep the guy and get any decent production out of him with his attitude? Love his physical gifts, but too much baggage.

Let the (unnamed future Broncos’ QB name) era begin.

i think when McDumbass told Cutler everyones tradeable at the face to face meeting oh and also not mentioning he’s the QB of this team. None of you guys would work to a place where your not wanted. OH yeah especially if you were the manage or thought you had some importance. Yes we love football but he’s a man to. and for you mega millionaire boss to send you a TEXT message i’m sorry. Man i sure you guys would do something special if it where a situation with you girl friend or wife.

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JRODZ ok let’s hope they can’t get fair value for Jay
AND they don’t settle for less.
They could then offer Jay a contract and the chance to play or sit.

Cutler quit on his teamates, clear and simple. Bowlen deserves what he gets, an arrogant little p**ck running his organization into the ground. At least we still have a stellar defense… oh, never mind.

Enjoy Detroit bitch.

And try and get that sand out of your vagina.

Trying to get myself excited about the trade possibilites then came to the stark realization that Bowlen and McD will screw that up too. This whole mess starts with Bowlen. We’ve gone from one of the most respected franchises is all of pro sports to a complete laughing stock in what, three months?

How in the hell is that even possible?

They are not capable of pulling off a good trade because no one left in the organinzation knows shit about running a football team. Bowlen is a drunk and has said he dosen’t know shit about football, McDaniels is a fricking 32 year old rookie head coach (at any level I might add) and Xander’s, I don’t know, you tell me.

Seriously, the best thing they could do at this point is fire McDaniels and bring in Cowher, Parcells or yes, even Shanny to put this mess back together.

How do you think Dawkins feels now about signing with us????

they better get a deal done quick. get our new QB in there to start learning the new system. dont draft Stafford or Filthy Sanchez. get Quinn and a whole bunch of draft picks. fuck it. Quinn has starting experience, he knows the system that McDaniels uses . Quinn played under Charlie Weiss at Notre Dame. get quinn and some picks and get him on there to learn the playbook. dont waste time McFuckwad.

WhidbeyBronco – I like what you’re saying, but if they were going to play managerial hardball, I think they would have done it already. I think the best clue as to what was driving this was the McD TV interview when pressed on Jay – What we saw is what Jay saw. Something bad went down in those meetings. I’m guessing we might never know what. They can’t settle, but I have a hard time seeing him come back now. Like I said. They REALLY screwed the pooch!

i heard from an unnamed source that ELWAY is coming out of retirement!

Mike, your right Cutler did quit on his teammates. Last weeks game, i saw him take a couple plays off. And during the pro bowl, i swear he didn’t take his insulin on purpose to piss the coaches off. Give me a break, Cutler had been a great teammate until McDeeznuts had a power trip. Where ever Cutler goes(Detroit, Tampa, New York)I guarentee they win more games then this Bronco team. Unless Jim Caldwell drinks the same kool-aid Mc-I’ll be-out-of-job-in-two-years, and trades Peyton to Denver.

Scew that whiny little girl. I hope he goes 0-16 for the rest of his career.

Kerry couldn’t have said it better. Im totally depressed.

RVG 10- if we get Shaun rogers we won’t draft Raji, Tyson jackson has average player written all over him. he had a less than stellar year at LSU this year and their entire defensive front will be in the NFL so i can’t say i like him at 12. people can say what they want about maualuge but he will be a beast in the NFL especially if we put him behind perennial All-Pro Shaun Rogers.

To everyone who keeps moaning the loss of Cutler.

The Dolphins made the playoffs with Pennington.

The Falcons made the playoffs with Matt Ryan, a rookie starter.

The Ravens made the playoffs with Joe Flacco, a rookie starter.

We had Cutler start two straight years and couldn’t sniff the playoffs. He threw crucial pick after pick. Our new head coach turned Matt Cassel, a seventh round pick who hadn’t started a games since high school into a franchise quarterback. Let’s see what he can do, and look forward to brighter days ahead.

Goodbye and good riddance to the second coming of Jeff George.

u go Kerry! lol

I like Romo With Cutler playing for Shanny next year…

After that? Quinn Rogers …?
How good is Simms Right now? I really like his heart (and his Dad)

Hey I’m probably the biggest Jay cutler fan there is but its time to send him to cleveland for Rogers Quinn and a swith of the 1st rounders. Then we take Orakpo. I came to peace with this a long time ago, and ita juat time 2 see Jay go. Quinn is smart and has all the intangibles to be a star under McDaniels, he might have even more talent than Brady or Cassell. I still highly support McDaniels and I still like Cutler… just not as much.

ahhh kerry, i used to kinda hate you. You’ve slowly become one of my favorite posters to read on here. I find myself agreeing with what you post so so so much. (except the wanting brady quinn) F-that, and F-him!! Lets get picks, draft defense, sign Byron leftwich and have simms and leftwich battle it out in camp.

Dolphins had parcells. Falcons had a run game. Ravens have a defense. We had cutler. I wouldn’t call Cassel a franchise QB. Also, Cutler > George.

Oh yeah. May Cutler leave his first game with another team on a stretcher!

ALL
Quit talking about trades. What makes you think ANYONE in this organization is capable of pulling off a decent trade.

Should have hired Pioloi (or whatever the f his name is) at least he has a clue about running an organization.

Good Riddance you big baby. We should seriously sign Byron leftwich. Did anyone see how effective he was when Ben was hurt for the Steelers? He only sucked for the Jags because they have no receivers… we do. I think that he would thrive in denver and he is a free agent. Trade cutler for draft picks and fix the defense. McD you screwed up, but i am a bronco fan and not a cutler fan.

If Cutler could have won one important game in his career it would have been beneficial geez. Look his rookie year final game of the season vs. San Fran lays an egg throws a pick 6 when we were up in that game that turned the tide and cost us the game. Buffalo game this year couldn’t get it done when we needed him most. how many times this year and last did we come flying out in games and then stall and not be able to move the ball. I understand that our defense was brutal no denying it. Remember 2006 Indy had ONE OF THE WORST DEFENCES OF ALL TIME AND WON THE SUPERBOWL. I love Cutler but this is ridiculous he has done nothing and beyond that he thinks he’s gonna go somewhere and get the protection that he had this year and have the waepons that he had. 627 dropbacks and 11 sacks yeah o.k Jay keep dreaming man. I dunno I love the Broncos and its totally mixed emotions right now. I just want this to end one way or another. It’s insane how this guy has acted. 10 days they’ve been trying to hash this out and he refuses to contact anyone what kind of an example does that set.

AkScott:

dude Leftwich sucks and so does Simms. id rather have Jeff Garcia then both of them. face it this team is doomed no matter who we have now. so the ONLY way McDicksuckerdouchebagvaginalwart can salvage this is to get a whole stable of draft picks and some players. and high draft picks too. not some bullshit 1st rounder with a 3rd rounder. it has to be more then that.

Hey Buckey congrats on having a new baby boy! What a great blessing.

You can keep Cutler…The Browns don’t want him and what makes you think the Browns would GIVE you Quinn AND Rodgers??? They wouldn’t.

Cassel has the franchise tag, therefore he is a franchise qb. All the credit for that goes to McDaniels.

Dolphins went from 1-15 to a playoff team behind a QB who was thrown out by the Jets.

Ravens had a defense for years since winning the Super Bowl and couldn’t get anywhere. The credit goes to the steady, mistake free play of Flacco.

And we supposedly had more than Cutler. We had the mastermind as head coach, the genius. And all we got was embarrassed time after time.

Just watch the rest of Cutler’s career. He will be like Jeff George, and little like Jon Kitna now that I think of it. I feel very lucky that this happened before we got too deep.

What about something like this (and maybe its been tossed out here already, so if so, my bad)
Cutler to Detroit for #20, their 2nd (#33 overall), their later 3rd rounder, and a 2nd next year.
The lions could grab the tackle they want at #1, and get their franchise QB.. which is more than they could expect if they held on to the picks

That’d give us the #12, #20, #33, #48 of the top 50

Is that asking too much, not enough?

This is all about MONEY I dont give a shit what anyone says its all about the benjamins. Agree or Disagree….If anyone thinks this is because they hurt his feelings hahahahaha what a p*ssy Cutler is if that is the real reason. This is the NFL not some cupcake league Jay.

I totally agree with Pete send him to the browns and get Quinn ( a real QB ) plus a 1st round pick !! It’s good news for bronco nation, we can finally move on and get ready for the new season !! What a KICK ASS SEASON it will be ! ! ! ! GOD BLESS BRONCO NATION ! ! ! !

kerry have you registered keedjayfireMcDicksuckerdouchebagvaginalwart.com yet??

lol..

I wouldnt be against Garcia either, and i was pretty impressed with Byron last year. He looked good, he looked healthy, he had time to throw the ball, and thats one thing (hopefully) we can hang our hat on for next year.. our o-line can pass block

Well said Mike Freeman: http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/6264363

Good riddance, Jay

What a spoiled, petulant baby.

Denver owner Pat Bowlen said he attempted to reach his quarterback, Jay Cutler, by telephone for the past 10 days and Cutler didn’t return calls.

Now the Broncos are attempting to trade Cutler. Good for them.

Whatever team makes that trade had better be careful because Cutler is without question one of the more thin-skinned quarterbacks we’ve seen in a long time.

Poor, poor Jay-be, way-be.

Not returning calls? Are you kidding me?

You can’t pick up the phone Jay and call back the team that has paid you millions of dollars? Not even one return call?

Who do you think you are, Plaxico Burress?

This is spoiled athlete territory and few people seem to agitated by it. In fact, Cutler will be rewarded for his petulant behavior by probably being traded to a contender like Chicago or New York.

My guess: Cutler ends up in New York which would be typical Jets. They’d trade for him and then Cutler would disintegrate the first time a New York tabloid sticks his gigantic head under an unflattering headline.

Don’t worry Denver. It’ll be addition by subtraction.

*keep* –keed.. moron

This sucks… I was on the Jay Cutler side. Now I think he his a complete Dumbass. This is just stupid. I feel sick now. 5-11 Denver Broncos… YAY!

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f8b376

My biggest issue with this whole fiasco is that Jay was the only player over the last 10 years that actually had a chance to live under John Elways shadow. Name them Plummer, Griese, Berlein, Ferotte etc. journeymen to say the least except Griese, but Jay’s cocky attitude and swagger actually gave him a fighting chance to play ball and forget the greatest QB to play the game.

Simms will not pull it off, either will any other QB I can think of, but Jay actually gave us a shot at greatness. What a shame. Now send his ass to Detroit.

hes killing jeff george already. youre just depressed. its clouding your judgement, jj. But I know one thing all those teams have in common, they didn’t win the big game. Cutler is one of a hand full of true franchise QB’s and he hasn’t even hit his prime. I hope our compensation is out of this world.

alright kerry, your Garcia idea makes a bit of sense.. Jack Elway is a Soph this year at ASU, Garcia is the stop gap this year, next year we draft J.Elway, daddy lets #7 be worn in denver again. We have 5 superbowl appearances in the next decade and a half

ITS FOOL PROOF!!!

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4032027

To everyone saying the Jeff George comparison isn’t apt. What are you basing that on? If you look up George, and read the story of his career, look at his stats, look at the way the guy played, he and Cutler are so similar it’s spooky.

And George didn’t play under a coach like Shanahan his first three seasons.

I have a feeling that we are going to get F-ed in a deal. Detroit seems to be really pushing Stafford. And I don’t think the Browns have any desire to trade either Anderson or Quinn. Tenn might give up Vince Young. I think he goes to NYJ for some picks and no player. We get robbed and regret it.

Thanks Ryan!

I wonder if this would have happen with any other coach other than McDanials. You think this would have happend with Spags, Morris, or any of the other candidates? For some reason I don’t think so. My prediction is Cutler will have better career record wise than the Broncs. I mean any team can turn around without a QB but a solid defense and running game is a must. There hasn’t been a defense here since the SB’s and the zone blocking scheme is gone. I hear it now: “And with the first pick in the 2010 draft the Denver Broncos select QB Sam Bradford.”

sam bradford looks like a retarded fish monkey!!

for 1 cutler is in his 3rd year. Are you telling me that you can see into the future? If so, whats the numbers for the powerball this month? 2nd, Cutler has already been to a Pro Bowl in just his third season (second as the full time starter) and George never made it to the pro bowl after more than a decade in the league. 3rd nevermind, im tired of sticking up for him, hes not even our qb.

AKScott.-

Jack Elway is only Red Shirting at ASU. All I have ever seen him do is walk the sidelines. He’ll never outcast his fathers shadow! EVER!

Agreed AK, he looks a lil on the inbred side.

So what if Cutler was in the Pro Bowl this past season. So was Kerry Collins. Cutler shouldn’t have been in ahead of Rivers, Pennington, or Cassel.

I just hear that Vic Lobardi talked to Jay and Jay said that he isn’t going to comment on Pat Bowlen’s comments until the Broncos contact him and tell them that he’s been traded.

How is it that a NEWS channel can contact him but his boss cant

Did he change his number?

Terrell Owens = Jeff George, Jay Cutler = John Elway in 83′ and 91′ Remember when Elway was considered the crybaby. Instead of getting rid of the QB we got rid of the coach and a few years later won a superbowl. I say trade McDaniels and our first round draft pick to the Jets for Rex Ryan. At least the guys he brought with him from his former team are good.

T-money.. c’mon dude, sarcasm..
HOWEVER, after next year he will be draft eligible.. (3 yrs removed from HS, similar to crabtree this year), he wears #7 at ASU, and has a last name of Elway.. that’s all i need to see
but really tho.. that sound outside, its the sarcasm bus pulling up.. dont miss it

Maybe he SHOULD’NT have but he WAS.

Watch the vido:

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/cutler.trade.mcdaniels.2.972776.html

It was just confirmed!!! Cutbait is going to the lions for their 33rd pick and some guy named Drew Stanton. I guess he’s a QB….

jcampb72
Whenever i see the evolution episode of SP i think of Sam Bradford.. no joke.. (and Phylis Rivers)

I dont even want to entertain the idea of a cutty trade in my head, so instead im thinking of other things..

LIKE, can you imagine if Bradford and Rivers got at each other after a game and had a baby??

F’n HIDEOUS!!

Im glad to see it happen, Lets face it Cutler was Mikes diamond in the rough and frankly more rough than diamond. What the team gets for him is gonna be the real issue…Pro Bowl QB or diabetes suffering, attitude problem that never really learned to lead a team. Im glad hes gone.

i think it’s weird that the Broncos say they have been trying to contact him and then Jay says he’s waiting for them to contact him

What the hell is happening to the Denver Broncos?

OK, so our offensive genius and former quarterbacks coach gets to pick a QB to his liking, with a fairly good number of intriguing options available, and a very highly valued QB asset to cash in and spend. I know many of you are preparing your hari-kari swords, but step back a second.

What’s done is done. McDaniels was clumsy, and Cutler a man-child, but it’s done.

If McDaniels is so good, and Xanders worthy of his title, this is their first big chance to set the direction for the franchise, and they’ve got lots of leeway and options.

Let’s see what they’ve got…

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I just hear that Vic Lobardi talked to Jay and Jay said that he isn’t going to comment on Pat Bowlen’s comments until the Broncos contact him and tell them that he’s been traded.

How is it that a NEWS channel can contact him but his boss cant

Did he change his number?
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You know about caller ID, right?

Jay’s not a dumb-ass for looking out for himself the same as the team said they were doing! (T-money) I’m mad he didn’t step up and forget what a weasel his coach seems to be… but look at McD in that interview smiling sheepishly and clearing his throat… Jay lost his coach, his co-ordinator, 7 running backs last year & BM for part of this year again… he’s supposed to kiss this dick’s ass for 1.8 million?

I don’t think I could!

For the most part I was hopeful Jay would return because he was such a great quaterback. Even when everyone was blaming him for his poor attitude I was willing to place a significant blame on McDaniels and Cook. However, by refusing to accept phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen is just petty and pathetic and can finally be happy with getting him out of Denver. I have become super excited about the prospects that the Broncos may receive in return for Cutler and how much this may screw up every Mock Draft on the internet. I can only hope Cutler goes on to have a mediocre career like his comparison, Jeff George and that he never truly develops his talent and continues to make mistakes. One thing I reccommend is to get through this year on two average quarterbacks so that next draft year we could pick up Colt McCoy as our franchise QB for the future. What do you guys think?

WhidbeyBronco-

I agree. I think this whole thing is just f-ed. My point was that this was poorly handled by BOTH parties at an EXTREMELY immature level. I still think that BUS (I hope karma bites you in the ass!) COOK is behind this, more than Jay or Josh.

Jvill-

I see you can be a smartass. Congrats. Have you every heard of Sarcasm? AKscott ripped me a new one about it earlier. You two seem to miss all the humor.

Let begin the Pat White Era! (in 2010…or after the lock-out)

Yeah I’ve just worn out my second cook voodoo doll tonight! That bastard will have some karma coming!

You want humor… check out Cutler removed from our roster as QB but left on as second string holder…

ahhh t-money i didnt rip you a new one.. just f’n with ya a bit. I appreciate what you bring to this site.

Our offense was good at the end of last season. Guaranteed if we had a defense last year we would have made playoffs possibly more. This is gonna set us back big time. Lets trade Cutler for a bomb ass running back and some draft picks, maybe someone 4 our dline. Sign Vick 4 our QB!!!!!!!!!!! Whos with mne?????????

I’ll tell you what, after the circus we have had thus far, it is good to see that someone has the strength and convictions to do what needed to be done. This team is rebuilding and if you are not with us then you are against us MR Cutler, now what is done is done, let us find a QB that can be the teams leader and that my be Mr Simms……more talent then Cassel and we saw what he did, but lets bring in a QB and have some great competition. Yea it is going to be tough, but fun to see what type of team we field with all those draft picks “GO Broncos”

Fire McDenial
Go Broncos

Hey East, you guys should make this site auto refresh…..its a pain otherwise.

I look at the success of all the other “Mini-Belichicks” and realize that we’re doomed.
Eric Mangini
Charlie Wiess
Romeo Crenell

Pat Bowlen’s got what Al Davis has….

Well gang,
The end has apparently finally arrived. Some like it and some don’t. But I come from the business side-you satisfy the client. You may not have liked how Jay handled it but he was the client and the broncos were not successful at selling something. At this moment, I can’t blame him for wanting to be traded, these people are in it to make money but they deserve the right to be leveled with. What he apparently didn’t get from Denver, he will get somewhere else. This is a management collapse-under no circumstance due you run off the client and expect not to hear about it. They may not have liked Cutler’s actions, but they needed him to buy their product. When it comes to selling, you must think with your mind first and place your pride on the shelf. That’s what management did not do-they thought with their pride first and it backfired.

And to think I had this McDaniels names self as starting Quaterback post all planned out for today but now it all seems a little bit off the mark.

this is bad on the surface but i agree with what Kerry said quite a way back up – just get it done and get it done quick.

What do you guys think…

Financially [and conference-wise], the Broncos do a 3way trade to get Brody Quinn and either Shaun Rodgers or their 1st pick, and have Cutler sent to Seattle with their 4th pick given to Cleveland.

This is just off the top and 5.5 PBR’s in. if someone else has already suggested this scenario, than my apologies – i’m too beer lazy to read all of the posts.

So I guess this is the end of the Broncos?
I’m glad this whole saga ended, I’m disappointed that Jay didnt return the owners call, but I’m not surprised.. you dont return you’re bosses calls …you are going to get fired. Bravo Bus Cook another successful drama you have concluded.

I dont blame any individual person, they all played a part. What happens now is that there will be a new era of the Broncos. I’m excited about that , I have faith that the Broncos will be back.

Everyone needs to move on at this point, lets hope we get alot in a trade back for Cutler. I still have faith in the organization and we will win , and we will be successful , I never saw Jay as the savior for this team… he was just a really good player that threw too many INTs.

Everyone that wants to abandon the Broncos please do so now, the DENVER BRONCOS will be just fine , they’ll be back … Jay Cutler good luck in you’re career but mark my words you will never have it as good as you did in Denver.

Coach McDaniels , what you MUST do now is bring a Superbowl to Denver to justify this move. And you know what? I think we’ll get one before Jay Cutler does (which is never, if you need clarification)

ALL READY ? There’s only a few of us left…

Sad to say but I bet we get low balled to death. If the deal is not sweet we simply must hold on to jay, he’s only making 1.5 mil n e way. And we could use him on ST’s.

DEE-

Jays gone. Brandon is gone for at least 4 probably 8. Will you feel the same way if the offense tanks? Will you feel the same way if we go 0-1. I will agree with you though, that the new broncos are going to be bad ass. Life are full of changes. Some easy, some ugly, some inevitable. Let’s just hope that Jack Elway can step up his game.

On a side note , the news of Shanahan being fired hurt me alot more than this, at this point I find myself not caring that Jay is leaving but caring more about what we get back.

Jcampb72 ~

Nice call. He loves to hit people. I’ve always thought of him as a beast. Make him the wedge Buster.

T-Money

This team could go 0-16 and I would still love them. I love the Denver Broncos, and the way Jay Cutler has acted recently I have lost some respect for him. McDaniels is also wrong in some respects, but Jay Cutler has gone off on reporters in the past, other players, his own teammates (defense) … so at this point I think we should just turn the page.

HAHAHA I hope Mike S. and Jay both make Denver pay for the stupid mistakes they have been making this season. Fine yes get ride of Mike S. maybe he wasn’t the right coach anymore, but to mess up an offense as explosive as Denvers come on. Cutler is an awsome QB- reminds me alot of elway. we should be focused on our defense, not trying to creat denver into the next clone machine Patriots. I want to see a qb like elway or cutler to take a chance think on his feet, not some brady pussy- oh no ones open just throw it away… that not denver football. Jay cutler didnt have a running game backing him this last season and he still did awsome. if you ask me denvers doing to be crappy,and i do not care anymore. this all can be laid on Mckidiots lap!!

T- he can’t be the wedge buster this year, its illegal. But maybe punt returner?

Well you guys keep blaming Cutler, lets say you just did an awsome job in your job and got a big raise- but the next thing you knew your boss was saying you should be like someone your not and do a better job… How would you feel? Didnt jay just set a team record and carried a team that had NO deffense and no running game, and also went to the pro bowl- hmmhmm i think so! McDaniels wants Jay to be more like Brady, and i think thats crap, have you seen a pats game there boring and tom brady- put him in a different team and he wouldnt do worth a darn!!

For the record , I wouldnt mind Brady Quinn.

“Let’s just hope that Jack Elway can step up his game.”

Thats what im talkin’ bout t-money!!

;-)

For those that claim to be a fan and blame the Organization and that they won’t support the Broncos due to this, well you can take a hike with Cutler. Seems a lot of these same people were calling for the head of Shanahan before he was fired. Well, they got their wish didn’t they.

Bowlen, had to fire Reeves for the same reason he let Shanahan go: They became complacent. Bowlens choice may not have been the best when it came to player management, but McD was hired for what Bowlen expects on the field. Pat Bowlens moves have been to do anything he can to bring the team back to a Championship; Sometimes it works and other times his decisions backfire.

I am a Bronco Fan, and I ask that true fans suck it up and support our team. Players come and go. Many we like and many more that we don’t. Cutler is damaged goods at this point, and regardless of who’s fault it is, at least we learned that Cutler is not a leader. A Super Bowl QB needs to be a leader. Lets move on.

Oh, and when the critics blame the Broncos because Cutlers replacement plays bad and loses several games this coming season, let me remind you that Cutler lost more than he won.

I’ll stick by the Broncos win or lose, no matter who the players are.

I grew up in Boulder loving Elway, and I thought Cutler was the Second Coming with his rocket arm. I will say I was disappointed in his attitude during games, after he’d throw a pick, he’d go over to sit in his frat-boy spot, and sulk…and to think I defended him against Rivers…maybe now I know what Rivers was seeing…

But alas, our situation looks exciting in Denver. When I play Madden I always get McDaniels as my Offensive Coordinator in Franchise Mode and select a young quarterback like Quinn or Flacco. Within three years they are rated in the 90′s and we have one Superbowl.

So, let’s put this behind us and get excited about spending all those bonus draft picks. I’d love Cleveland’s 5th pick of the 1st round, Quinn, and their 2nd round pick. That seems like enough to give them a Pro bowl quarterback who can challenge the Steelers.

But I’d use those picks wisely and pick up DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE! And maybe a third round QB that Josh likes and thinks he can groom for the big leagues.

It’s going to be an exciting season without all that sulking cow-faced look on the sidelines!

Glad I chose an Eddie Royal Jersey for x-mas instead of Cutler!

I’m with you Diehard,

Bowlen is doing the same thing he did with Mike S. giveing the young and much to learn head couch waay to much power.

I say the lions would be that desperate for a QB like cutler that they would be willing to trade their 1st round 1st pick, maybe even their 1st round 20th pick aswell, we pick up Curry first pick, Raji 12th pick and what ever decent QB is left at 20. Then we get Jeff garcia for his last year and let the rookie learn from him… seems a decent logic???

I am excited to see what our compensation is going to be. For right now that is all I am excited about. Nevertheless GO BRONCOS!!!

jcamp
Your right alot of teams will kick the tires and try and low ball us…it will only take one team to break the bank. Cutler has remained pissed with not contact so i dont blame the broncos for shopping him. I do have confidence that we will get fair value for him. I dont think it matters how cutler acts…he has loads of talent and there are plenty of teams in need. He is a franchise QB and there will be a team that offers the farm for him. My hope at this point is that Denver finds a system QB that can flourish (or is atleast decent) in McD’s system and we get a hand full of picks to fix the D. The broncos could definitely get the short end of this deal but maybe we get a young D with good vet leadership and our offense becomes consistant and scores in the red zone. I know this is very optamistic but its all i got right now. There have been reports of 6 teams and counting that have already contacted Denver. Odds are that if Denver is open to trading him a team will offer something decent and Jay is out of here.

someone on here a few days ago (east possibly??) had a great anology for how i feel.. basically about how people support the troops but not the war. Thats EXACTLY how i feel about all this. I HATE whats going on, but when its all said and done, I love my broncos. Jay was great, and i’ll always have a bit of a chub for him, but team will come first.. although im not with diehard, i’ll need a grieving period, have myself a good cry, maybe put on some Avril and watch Steel Magnolia’s. Then come draft day i’ll be hopeful about the new crop and excited to see what happens in camp.

til then, i’ll walk around feeling like i just got dumped

Make sure we get a reasonable trade value for this little prick, if not , lets keep him on the bench for 3 years and then see who wants him. He’s under contract still and as far as I’m concerned Cutler can go hold hands with Eddie Kennison, traitors!!!!!

Im wondering if bowlen and McD announced this because they had a deal already in mind or planned…Andpark stated that a trade could happen soon (next couple days)…This could be true. They could already have a deal in place and are just waiting to see if any other team can offer a better deal.

this is wild guy. it like long grain wild rice. The shanhan fire. now the cutsper is trade.

I hope we get some thing good guy. I hope we get quart back with cabability to makey the throw and all kind of picts holmes. I want all kind of picts in first round let get defence and some real good run back.

bowlen roll the wheel of destiny guy. he makey hooge gamble on the mcdanels I hope he is rite or we look real corny when dust settel. I think he see some thing in this guy. he have to.

ive been a broncos fan ever since i was 8 you all know 1986 im now 30 ive wached pat do some great things ala-1997 and 1998 but i think we should trade cutler if hes unhappyhe will be a CANCER he will only destroy us even fiurther ,let it go! if you ever wached NOTRE DAME when BRADY was there then you know hes a hell of a qb and a LEADER !!who cares who FUCKED UP lets move forward….

Who would’ve ever thought that the night I left Qualcomm stadium on the cold Sunday night in San Diego that it would be the last time I was Cutler and Shanahan in Bronco Orange. How did this team get to where we are at now? I know Cutler is mad and upset, I know the Broncos made an attempt to get rid of him but we had so much going for us. Ya 52-21 sucked, Ya dropping the last three games and negating the playoffs hurt but how do you guys feel now? I have no idea what to expect next year and with the AFC North, NFC East and Indy on the schedule I have a hard time believing the Broncos will have a better team on the field than 2008……

I agree completely with Horvil, well the bits I understood ;)

The absolute MINIMUM i’d want in the trade is a defensive starter – possibly a Nose Tackle but would take a proven MLB – and a quaterback. And then throw in a couple of draft picks and I’m happy with the compensation.

Quinn and Raji are the most obvious people to drop into that scenario but I will go away and have a think about other options.

One thing for sure is there was nobody out there crying ” lets trade Jay” at the end of last season. Everyone knew that our Defense was no where to be seen, our Special teams were nowhere to be seen, but our offense was just a running back away from greatness. We are young, we have a great offensive line, all we needed to put this together was a running back we could rely on, that could pound out the yards and help us control the clock. This would also remedied our redzone problems. We had no problems in the redzone when we had a passing and running game. We also were 13-1 with Jay when the defense held the other team under 21 pts.
Also, all we heard on the posts after this season were, we NEEDED a DEFENSE, that is all we talked about. Also a running back that could stay healthy.
So, how did we get to here from there? Man, did the bottom ever fall out…..
No offensive problems until ……. McD…

Who in their right mind would have messed with an offense such as ours when we had such a pathetic defense and terrible SP? McD….

Who would mess with a teams pro bowl QB when you had other major problems to fix? McD……

Well, one could also thank Bowlen for taking control of his team. Must ask Pat this question tho ” How is that working out for you so far Pat?”

What a total cluster f**…… Well we can only go up from here now, I can only hope.

Have to wonder how any other coaches would have come to Denver and lost their pro bowl QB? I really can’t think of anyone out there that would have been dumb enough to have lost the QB on their watch, short as it has been.
I only hope the best for you McD, we are all watching and hoping, but I really have to believe you just cut your leash very very short….
Has to be the biggest screw up in NFL History, can’t think of any other coach making such a complete assnine blunder as this….

when Jay arrived in 2006 his intention was to be Broncos qb for life…now we enable that a any Josh to shok Broncoland! The offense was the only Broncos thing that was very good…now we must begin from the top…Good luck Broncos!

i loved cutler, thought we should have worked hard to turn him around. but now that its over, i hope we do that trade to the browns. we get brady quinn, whos got potential, and then we draft raji with their round 1, and with our round one we draft moreno. or cushing. and then whatever. could be solid though. ive always liked quinn since notre dame.

Steve that trade makes sense. But hey he was trading cutler for a career back up. wow i don’t kno maybe cause hes a first time coach he has to many gitters on the phone negotiating. The worst part is thinking who else are we going to loose. i would want to be around a compulsive liar.

JohnClayton just reported that there was a hillbilly cackle come out of san diego

cant say its unexpected, also glad that there is an end. can we get one of the mods to start a ‘what should we get for cutler’ thread? i was kinda was hoping this would be one, but it has kinda turned into a place the blame and bitch about it thread (which is totally fine and needed for folks to vent).

anyway, someone mentioned the irrelevance of jeff george- as a person he is, but his trade value was not- he netted two first rounders (and maybe a player). I’d like to see cutler go for the browns 5, quinn, and next years first. hell if it turns into a bidding war, take a second or third on top of that. That turd bus cook needs to get in on the trading action on behalf of his client. if i were xanders i’d be on the phone with him discussing what the team will entertain for him (multiple first rounders) and have him help look for suitible trade partners. the thing is that the broncos hold the cards here, and we can ask for whatever we want….

It was such a bad idea when Hershel Walker was traded…

Bolwen says they made several attempts to contact Cutler over the past ten days and Cutler did not respond. Now I see in the Post where Cutler said he only received a text from McD 10 days ago and had already shipped his car to Denver for the April mini-camp.

Someone is lying through their teeth.

Fire Xanders/McDenial!

I am not sure Cutler ever wanted to stay in Denver. When he was drafted, he didn’t act too excited about Denver. I have always wondered if it was the city or the fact that he hoped to be drafted higher than he was. This whole thing makes me think it was both. I really think that he wants to play in a different city. My guess is Chicago #1 and Tennessee #2. Anyway, based on his contract and the changes in Denver I think that he saw this as his chance to get out and get his money. All he had to do was have the organization give him the opportunity to be a big enough jerk to get his way, and they gave it to him.

I am very disheartened to see my favorite player soon to be traded from my favorite team.

Mr. East has a good point: “It was such a bad idea when Hershel Walker was traded…” I sure hope that we get whatever is necessary to get us over the hump. However, it is hard to imagine how we would do it without a star QB. I really had spending seasons looking for a QB. I don’t want to be Chicago.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA What a BABY. Get us Quin

At this point right now I dont know whether to sh1t or go blind. I actually think I hate all 3 parties involved. Cutler, McDaniels, and especially Bowlen for getting us all into this mess for firing Shanahan. Any way we can trade all 3 of them?

Is it just me or is Shanahan sitting somewhere laughing quietly to himself? Whatever, blame whoever you want to, McD completely fucked this up, Bowlen seems like he had no influence in any of this, and Cutler is way too sensitive obviously. McD tried to fix things but Cutler dug into the trenches and decided he was bigger than the TEAM. I wonder if he ever bothered to look over on his jersey and notice the “C” there. I think at this point he probably thought it meant Cutler and not CAPTAIN. Yes, this all got crazy but in the end the Broncos tried to make amends. Shit, this guy wouldn’t even return calls back in an attempt to here what they wanted to say? Don’t tell me that is how a professional acts, this is a business, a cut throat business at that, save your feelings at the door. I get the feeling more and more that when Shanny went Cutler’s wheels were already spinning. Cutler is choosing to turn his back on his team when he is supposed to rise above this crap and lead his team. He says he can’t trust the guy? Why should his teammates trust him when he makes decisions like this that in the long run screw over the players. I don’t care how pissed off someone makes me in business, if the boss calls, and you know he’s calling to try and work things out, YOU ANSWER THE CALL. Not Cutler, noooooo not him. He has to hide from everyone and speak through his agent. Way to man up Jay. As much as I loved to watch this guy play, farewell, I can only hope that you are banished to the crappiest team we can send you to. Does he stop to think over these few things:

His YOUNG offensive line was by far the best in the league, he never got touched.

His YOUNG receiving corp would be one of the top three tandems in the NFL for a while

His new HC, as much of an asshole as he is, was the architect of Brady’s 50 TD season and was bringing the spread offense for him to throw the ball even more

The defense would be improved this year via FA and the draft, even if it was a marginal improvement

I’ll say it and screw any of you who disagree, if Cutler really wanted to be a Bronco, he’d be one. He’d put this aside, he’d man up and lead the team. Guess what Cutler, in the REAL BUSINESS WORLD no one gives a shit if you love, hate, or even like your boss. Its about getting the job done regardless of personal feelings. I wish this guy, and many of these pro athletes had a fucking clue on what everyday people have to go through especially now. Go cry and pout into your millions in a different city, please.

Get me Quinn and their 1st rounder or Rogers and let’s move on. And while we’re at it, time to draft another receiver, hopefully one that is allergic to the the phrase, “Hands behind your back, assume the position.” I love Marshall, but he’s become Chris Henry with ProBowl talent.

I was hoping to wake up this morning and see that this was an April fools joke. So much for that. If Cutler and Shanahan would have beat Carolina, Buffalo or San Diego this would have never happened and that’s all I got to say about that.

STAV I agree with you, if Cutler really wanted to be a Bronco and show his true leadership abilitites he would have been and with one more great season he would have gotten his $100 million extension and we live happily ever after.

How true it is Anthony. All we had to do was beat shitty Buffalo, but then that would mean we had heart and technique on defense, and we all know that wasn’t the case.

WB

Burn all Jay Cutler pictures at Dove Valley!

Stav,

I’m with you all the way. obviously doesn’t have the desire to be a Bronco and sees this as his opportunity out.

I’m also with you on Marshall. Denver should draft Ramses Barden in the 7th, he’s a beast at 6’6 230.

This is just a mess. I am a true BRONCOS fan but this has got to make you think. McDaniels screwed up. I do not blame Cutler or Shanahan. I love them both. I think the owner has had a brain freeze. When you are a key player you want to know that you are still going to be a key player. Cutler i will watch you play no matter what team you play for. And Shanahan you are still the best coach the NFL has ever had.

Has anyone ever scene Prizzi’s Honor? The scene where he tells Jack Nicholson, in that creepy old man voice, that he has to whack his girlfriend? “She’s gotta go”, well, we’ve got the pronoun right for Cutler, she’s gotta go. The unique thing in the Broncos favor is that while he is considered a “disgruntled player”, his talent level completely neutralizes that for a trade so there should be numerous good-great offers available for us. The one rule of thumb, do not trade within the division and preferably (but probably not so realistic) within the conference. One issue with the Quinn acquisition that I’m for and I know others like, Mangini just got done coaching Favre, and he hated it. Why the hell would he want the 25yr old version of Favre on the Browns? We have to figure a way out to get Quinn. I certainly don’t want them to get the #1 unless they have plans to either:

trade it down for multiple picks, a top 10 and one of the first four 2nd rounders + a third

pick Aaron Curry at #1, while finding a way to move up within the top 10 to pick a QB because I definitely like Sanchez.

No way the Broncos would pick Stafford at #1 and pay him all that cash when Curry is by far the closest thing to a can’t miss in the draft. Unfortunately the problem is that out of the top 10 picks, its the 1, 2 and 10 who could conceivably want the #1 for Stafford.

How about Cutler and Scheffler to the Rams for the #2, #35, and their #1 in 2010. But then that means Simms is our QB, ugh (we regress on offense anyway whoever comes in since Cutler’s gone, let’s just accept that now). You pick Curry with #2. You trade the #12 and our #48 to Jacksonville for the #8 and grab Sanchez. And you still have your 2nd round pick moved up 13 spots for another quality pick. Plus Cutler is on a shitty team and in the NFC!!!! Now I’m working magic, get me the Rams on the phone!!!!

Dee – all the Cutler pics at Dove Valley are of him coifing his hair on the sideline in that scumbag messy style, I’m sure they won’t miss seeing those.

Mr East

I think a thread should be created discussing the future and moving away from Jay Cutler , we have spent alot of time on him already and think this is a good time to move forward.

Pat Bowlen is not the type of owner to come out publicly and discuss players, so he must be really fed up, I wonder what fans dont know about what really happened with Jay Cutler’s camp. I dont believe the “claim” that Jay Cutler was on his way to Denver… he has shown no indication since this started that he wanted to be apart of this team.

Easty, baby, I’m with you. You don’t want to play in Denver, well get the hell out!!! I like Brian Robiskie from OU. Looks like a sleeper to me at WR with SOLID character.

Dee – I’ve moved on, check out my GM skills above – I’ve got Cutler out of here for a slew of picks.

ian podcasted about all of the trade scenarios last week http://nation.theorangepage.com/blog/?p=52

(dee)

Don’t worry buddy I’m already working on it.

Good point about Pat Bowlen. He isn’t the type of owner who lives in the limelight, so this must be really getting on his nerves.

Ya know, if I had acted like Culter in my job, I would have been fired a long time ago for behavior like that. He is truly not a professional. Well, except for maybe being a baby. He has skills but is not close to being the leader this team really needs. Trade his butt to Detroit and lets see how long he will last in the league.

Crybaby to the Rams for Bulger, the #2 pick in the draft and future 1 or #2. A good qb who finally has a o-line, draft BJ in the middle and a DE at 12. Crybaby goes to NFC and does not come back to haunt us!
Crybaby to Det and B. Marshall in a blockbuster. Dever get the #20, Det seond round pick and Calvin Johnson. Denver than trades the #20 pick and there own second to move up and get BJ in the top 10.

kill me

Does someone actually think we’re going to pull an “Herschel Walker” esque trade? Forget about it, no leverage, will be lucking to get a second round pick now.
Here are the details of that trade:

Minnesota Vikings Received:
RB Herschel Walker
Dallas’s 3rd round pick – 1990 (54) (Mike Jones)
San Diego’s 5th round pick – 1990 (116) (Reggie Thornton)
Dallas’s 10th round pick – 1990 (249) (Pat Newman)
Dallas’s 3rd round pick – 1991 (68) (Jake Reed)

Dallas Cowboys Received:
LB Jesse Solomon
LB David Howard
CB Issiac Holt
RB Darrin Nelson (traded to San Diego after he refused to report to Dallas)
DE Alex Stewart
Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1990 (21) They traded this pick along with pick (81) for pick (17) from Pittsburgh to draft (Emmitt Smith)
Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1990 (47) (Alexander Wright)
Minnesota’s 6th round pick in 1990 (158) (traded to New Orleans, who drafted James Williams)
Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional) – (11) (Pat Harlow)
Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional) – (38) (Darryll Lewis)
Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional) – (37) (Darren Woodson)
Minnesota’s 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional) – (71) (traded to New England, who drafted Kevin Turner)
Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1993 (conditional) – (13) (traded to Philadelphia Eagles, and then to the Houston Oilers, who drafted Brad Hopkins

There’s a reason it was the greatest trade ever. Because it will never happen again.

I don’t know about Bulger, he’s shell-shocked from all the hits he’s taken. 49, 37, 38 – that’s his sacks every year since 2006, and its safe to say you can add 20 to each of those to come near the total # of hits he’s taken. BUT he would be the staring QB then. The problem, he’s not the QB of the future for us. If we can’t get back youth at QB, then we might as well draft a QB with all the picks we’d see back. In the end, if we can’t get Quinn, there’s really no one else we can trade for to fill in as the potential future of our QB position and I know I’m putting a lot of stock in Quinn but he does have some talent and is familiar with system. If that’s the case where we can;t get him or something comparable (which is not out there), we just need to get as many picks as possible, which means a #1 this year in the top 10, a top 5 in the 2nd round this year, and either a 2010 #1 or another 2nd rndr from the 1st 10.

Be careful in asking for Brady Quinn. There is a reason he fell in the draft.
He couldn’t beat out Charlie Frye or Derek Anderson.
The Browns signed Anderson to a huge contract.
He couldn’t beat Anderson out for the starting job again last year.
New coach comes in and opens the QB spot up for competition and is willing to trade their former 1st rounder.

All signs to what everyone thought except for Notre Dame homers, Quinn is overrated with a weak arm. Unless you want the second coming of Brian Griese, I would stay away.

Roshon,

I agree with you, there is no way there will be another trade like that ever again. I was just being a little facetious. There is more leverage than you realize though. Denver has a contract with Jay and that’s all the leverage you need. Other teams are drooling over this prospect. The leverage is all in the low QB supply in the draft and free agency. There is usually some QB that’s a highly regarded draft prospect or free agent signing and there isn’t this year. Denver needs to come away with their pockets full.

Diehard (#119) 100% agree. Stav (#144) 100% agree – Well said Gents.
I am absolutely salivating over the results of this trade and the potential draft picks! But then I have a problem with drooling anyway.
This is going to be fun. Enough of the soap opera – BRING ON THE DRAFT!

I still like the guy, put your point has merit, that’s why I think we should be looking at getting the Rams #2 (Curry), #35 (up 13 spots from our previous #48), and their #1 in 2010 for Cutler and Scheffler and trading our #12 + #48 to move up into the top ten and grab Sanchez. Personally, I like Sanchez over Stafford, but again, we all need to realize that we are taking a step backwards on offense as we can’t replace Cutler 100%, its just not possible unless another ProBowler steps in for him which is why we go for Sanchez now, as we are going to have to pick a QB. He ran the pro set out of USC, and we can easily grab him if we can move up to #6-#9 spots. If McD wants his own guy, then start fresh and grab Sanchez, just accept the fact that we’ll be 7-9 this year, maybe 6-10, all that would do is give us a top 10 pick in 2010 with possibly the Rams top 10 also for 2010. This is how you build teams guys, through the draft. Pull the trigger, get the picks, and the 2009 + 2010 seasons will be rough, but we’ll be developing some high round talent.

buckeye,

Quinn is on the Browns. It’s almost like saying he’s on the Lions. This is a team full of mismanagement. Quinn played very well in his first 4 starts, better than Derek Anderson had played all year. I understand where you’re coming from but there just isn’t much else out there. Quinn is an intelligent quarterback and thats the kind of guy McDaniels looks for. Watch out for a Trent Edwards possibility too, he’s also a New England style QB. Edwards is highly underrated.

Hansen – Its like taking a huge shit, the relief and joy afterwards were well worth wait, in this case we need to “pinch” Cutler out to feel normal again. Agents, GMs, NFL execs are all saying we’ll clean up in this. Let’s do it, I’m pumped for the draft. There’s no reason why we won’t have 2 #1′s in the first 12 picks and one in 2010 + a decent 2nd round pick this year and in 2010.

Sorry for the gross metaphor, but as it turned out Cutler has become a huge shithead.

“The only constant is change.”

Four years ago the team’s starting Quarterback was Jake Plummer. He was eradic and incosistent, but he won games. The only problem was, you couldn’t rely on him when you needed him most.

Then we draft Jay Cutler (which almost no one predicted), and we pin our hopes on him to take us to the promise land. In the three years that Jay has started, the Broncos don’t have a winning record. Granted, our defense was absolutely awful, but so was our offense at times.

Great quarterbacks are field generals. They find ways to win. They are dangerous when they have the ball with less than two minutes left in the game. They scare opposing defenses. FYI – we didn’t have that. Not at all.

I used to love it when the Broncos were in the spotlight. But not like this. Remember how much of a joke the Chargers used to be? Every time they were on television, it was like watching the NFL version of Jerry Springer. Now they are a superbowl contender every year.

We have a new coach. Shanahan isn’t coming back. It’s time to move forward, choose a new general to lead our blue and orange, and bring pride back to Bronco Nation. Let’s get out of the spotlight and back on the field where the Broncos belong.

quinn sliding in the draft had less to do with talent than circumstance…. most teams either had a franchise qb on their roster or had spent high draft choices in the prior two years on qb’s… minnesota needed a qb but adrian peterson was miraculously on the board so they took him… miami’s ginn pick fooled everyone but after that nobody needed a qb until cleveland traded back into the first at 22…

now, he looked pretty good in a couple of his outings but it is true he never ‘won’ the starters job but i still think that he’s worth a shot. would i trade for him straight up? no way. we’d need their first rounder plus some extra picks, like next years first. i’d even settle for quinn, 09 first and second and 2010 second and third. basically the logic is we’re getting five players out of this, and if quinn doesnt work out we’ll be high in the draft and have some extra ammo to move up next year and get someone to fit mcd better.

Flbronc,

True he did fall in the draft because a lot of teams didn’t need a QB. But now a lot of teams need a QB. Since Mangini took over and everyone in Ohio knows he’s available for a trade and there are no takers. Cheifs didn’t even think about him, went with Cassel. 49ers resigning Alex Smith. Vikings picking up Sage Rosenfels. Chicago sticking with Kyle Orton. Detroit sticking with Daunte Culpepper. Tampa Bay Luke McCown. Jets Kellen Clemens. All these teams want Cutler but none of them try to trade for Quinn. Quinn’s a bust, he might be intelligent but so was Joey Harrington.

Right of the current NFL QBs, I’ve been through and marked them as ones that are – in my opinion – available and ones that could be at the right price. I have a list of about 35 who could possibles, I have removed all the QBs that I have never heard of which is normally a good way of judging if they could be starters (Although I would have removed Matt Cassel this time last year!). There aren’t many highlights on there.

Quinn, Anderson, Edwards, Campbell, Jackson, Garrard, Garcia, Orton and Leftwich are about the best you can get. I’m not proposing how they end up in Denver but there are options.

But here is a scenario for you. If the Shannahan’s Broncos lost a running back – would you expect them to draft high or find someone who fits the system on day 2? I can see McD taking a chance on a pretty unknown QB on day 2 of the draft with the option of bringing in a veteran – just in case. All this talk of taking high profile top of the draft QBs just doesn’t look right in the “Patriot Way”.

im even less excited about the draft. dont anybody ever say again what a great owner Pat Bowlen is!!! Bowlen just needs to step down from ownership. he is way too much of a drunk vagrant moron to be an owner. and MCDickwad is the biggest moron in football. and anyone who is glad to see Cutler gone, doesnt know shit about football. QB’s of his caliber dont fucking magically grow on trees. IDIOTS!!

Mr Slave needs to come along and jump on McDickface’s head like he did Paris Hilton. right Mr East?

Mike B, in regards to us taking a QB on the 2nd day. I’m really intrigued by Rhett Bomar who should go anywhere from late 3 to early 5. He woulda been a first rounder if he stayed at OK imo, and he would have been Sam Bradford this year. Obviously a different skill set, but the kid has an arm and I think he has a lot of potential at the next level.

The team made him the player he is, he didn’t do it himself and there is always someone who can replace you.
Good luck Cutler and leave the door open while you leave.
Any real Quarterbacks out there who want to play some real football?

So do you think when McDaniels went in for his interview, he said “My plan for your team is to blow up the offense, trade your starting quarterback for backup QB, because I’m that good. Then i’m going to sign all the defensive free agents available over the age of 30. Sign every third string running back I can find and change the blocking scheme because it wasn’t really working. And once I give a backup QB and long snapper huge contracts will definitely win a Super Bowl” and i’m sure during the last statment he had his fingers crossed.

Went from having “the rat” as a coach, to “the weasel”.

Elway’s karma finally bites us in the ass.

Kerry – I think you’re missing the point. No one can be actually glad to see Cutler leaving. We’re taking a HUGE step back with this, but quite obviously the guy doesn’t want to be in Denver anymore and is going to make a stink about it. If he doesn’t to be there why should we put up with his BS? If he really wanted to be a Bronco, he’d put this shit aside and work through this, but he hasn’t chosen to. He talks through his agent, makes no effort to create a basic working relationship. No one’s telling him to get a McD tattoo on his arm inside a heart, just to make an effort to put the team first. Has he done that, put the team first? I think you know the answer to that.

Kerry, you are right, QB’s of his caliber don’t grow on tree’s. Neither do crybabies who can’t take a piss without their agent holding their dick. It just so happens we are getting rid of both in one fell swoop.

I am going to miss his abilities, but not his immaturity.

Kerry,

I feel like from now on we should just make South Park references in all of our posts to each other. This way even if we don’t agree with each other we get to laugh.

McDaniels did shake the tree a little too hard and now he’s yelling timber. However, Cutler was on the other side with an axe named Bus Cook in his hand. I’m appaulled by Cutler’s leadership abilities, and I believe that a quarterback needs to be more of a man than Jay Cutler ever has been.

Rob Bronco’s post sums up what I think perfectly.

Kerry I would rather use the entity than have to listen to this Jay Cutler drama.

Why does everyone think he’s immature, bc he got pissed off his new coach wanted/wants to trade him? I seem to remember a QB in denver not too long ago that didn’t want to play for baltimore when he was drafted. He turned out ok. Eli did the same thing. Ask anyone on that team last year and they would tell you he was a leader. The scruff was between him and the coach, not his leadership or immaturity. Damn straight none of us would of questioned any of that until mcdoof made a rookie error or bellicheat leaked. Well that seems like an eternity ago now, sorry for the last minute rant.

go to http://www.Rotoworld.com and read about Cutler’s intention to show up to minicamp. he had packed up his car, shipped it to Denver with the intention of being at the minicamp on the 17th. so obviously Cutler was gonna show. but like most of you, Bowlen got impatient and wants him gone because he didnt respond fast enough.

His name isn’t McDicknals or McDickwad …. its Mcdaniels … better be careful Kerry or he’ll trade you away to be a fan of another team. lol

Cuntler, excuse me Cutler is gone, and I believe we will be better in the LONG RUN for it simply because he didnt want to be here, and McD is not getting fired. As I said yesterday Mcdaniels now has to deliver a superbowl to denver to justify this move and I believe in time we’ll be able to achieve those levels.

The bottom line is all fans want is for their team to WIN football games, and I have more faith in McD than I do of Cutler in getting that done. Cutler is a above average QB , but does not have the mental makeup for the position … he’s gone off on the media, his teammates, the owner, and his coaches … and taken 0 responsibility for any of it. There is a reason players on the Jets dont want him.

Last point, Phillip Rivers is a prick and a loudmouth to the opposing team, but his teammates love him. They had a terrible offense this year and he made no excuses or threw anyone under the bus like Cutler did. I dont understand where Cutler gets his sense of entitlement from, but I’d rather have a guy that plays hard and can take being yelled at like man , rather than a child you needs to be pampered.

* I meant defense , not offense

Leadership abilities? East, this has nothing to do with leadership abilities. It has to do with being wanted or not. You think any pro bowl caliber QB, anyone of them at 25, which there hasn’t been many, would be hunky doory with this situation. I really don’t think so. Sad to say but shanny coddled this kid to death now he wants to be treated the same way. Some people like the challenge to want to show people up and some need positive reinforcement. He needed the latter.

What a baby. If one of my employees didn’t answer my calls or didn’t show up for work they would be fired!!!! Keep Cutler and make watch Simms from the bench. If I was Cutler’s dad I would knock some sence into him. Tell him to become a man……

jcampb72

I completely agree with you. We didn’t here about Cutler wanting be traded until McDaniels made the bonehead move to go after Cassel. It from this yahoo article, sound like a deal was done with Minnesota but Minnesota balked. If thats true, then McDaniels hasn’t been honest to Cutler or us fans.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-cutlertrade033109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

jcampb,

You’re definitely right about the Shanahan statement. My point is that a real leader wouldn’t let this get to him. A leader wouldn’t forfeit $100,000 in bonus money just to lift some weights. If Jay really didn’t need that money than he could just show up to practice and donate it charity. That may not be a lot of money in his head, but rest assured ask Mike Vick and he’ll let you know.

As a professional football player being paid millions of dollars should be positive reinforcement enough. McDaniels no doubt messed up on this whether or not he intended on trading for Cassel, but Cutler is still getting paid as an employee and he needed to act like it. It’s pathetic to pay someone that much money to act like that.

Can Bus Cook coach? He’s about the only one actually doing his job.

For the last time. I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!

Cutler is a frat boy punk with zero deep ball touch. He is a loser (at winning football games). We came within one game of super bowl 40 and went the wrong direction. I am so pumped up thinking about who we could get for him. Please remember that it is all about o line and d line.

Sources close to the situation say Cutler cried himself to sleep last night, however was then comforted by Bus Cook who brought him some warm milk …

Meanwhile McD is developing his strategy to begin the Denver Bronco Dynasty moving forward …

Everyone needs to move forward , its a new day … I want the trade to happen right now so we can meet/greet our new players … Jay Cutler is soo March 31, lets have some QB debate …. so we draft ? or go with Brady Quinn …. I dont know about the Redskin’s QB … he seems like hes ok but I havent seen anything really special out of him. Brady Quinn has looked decent in his games as a starter.

To a certain extent, you have to coddle these millionaire children. They’ve had everything handed to them on a plate since they showed even a hint of ability and pretty much assume that the world revolves around them.

You would hope that being able to make millions of dollars playing a game would be motivation enough, but unfurtunately it isn’t.

That’s the reality. And it’s not just Cutler, it’s most professional athletes.

Agreed, it may be pathetic but he holds the ball in his court. There are about 5 people in world right now that can throw the football like cutler. Hes a product of his environment. And his environment taught him to be a premaddonna who doesn’t neccessarily need or care about 100k, but he should have had someone like you telling him to donate that kind of money. Pathetic, though, is how McD’s handled this thing. He sent us back 2-3 years. He was a young cat, can you imagine being a superstar QB at 25 with that kind of money and resposibility. I must be nice, but really difficult at the same time.

The same way studios, directors, etc. coddle movie stars. You have to keep the talent happy.

I’m sick of people calling Cutler a baby, and making this his fault. I agree he should have taken the high road sooner but when you’re the franchise QB and your new coach comes in, tries to trade you, then lies about it to you and doesn’t talk to you about it… McD YOU SUCK!!! This is the worst thing I’ve ever witnessed as a Bronco fan, which I say I’m leaning towards a new team. ABSOLUTE DISASTER. FUCK YOU McD! Cutler was our answer on offense. Matt Cassell BLOWS!!!

buckeye,

That is so ironic yet true… hahaha. Great point.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12041793
My thoughts exactly

Peter Kings talks with Dan Patrick about this crap:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/?eref=fromSI

I don’t think we will get quinn. There’s been no interest to trade for him on the browns part. I’ve also heard Carolina…interesting thought.

jcampb,

I agree that McDaniels dropped the ball, but I’m not ready to say if he set Denver back 2-3 years yet. Give me a few real games to gauge his performance. Don’t write me off as an eternal optimist though, I’m getting a prescription of Xanax for this season (figuratively). In my opinion I’m all down for calling this season a mulligan if things go to hell in a hand basket and moving forward from then on.

I believe McDaniels is a good football coach and his experience with managing players is limited to respectful mature ones like Tom Brady, hell he even had a happy Randy Moss, thats not fair.

Apparently McDaniels is a take no crap kind of guy, which I like, but possibly not to this degree. Cutler and McDaniels should have communicated and found a middle ground. The fact that they never had a one-one-one is very sad, and I think there’s something that happened that we may never find out. That’s really the gist of this situation, we’ll never really find out.

I hope your right, Heres a video with Mark Schlereth who I have big respect 4
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-7-15/Video–Schlereth-weighs-in-on-Cutler.html

McD let his pride get in the way. And he was incredibly hubris. But who knows. This is probably karma for getting Elway from Baltimore.

Does anybody else think that Bus Cook is screening Jays calls?

T-Money,

I wish I had the flash skills to make an animated video called “A Day in the Life of Bus Cook. In this video the dialogue would go like this,

Jay: Was the my phone ringing?
Bus: No no no Jay that was the… microwave, it set it to sound like your ringtone.
Jay: The microwave plays me “lets go broncos” ringtone?
Bus: Actually no it plays “Mo’ Money Mo’ Problems” now.

FIRE MC. DANIELS. He just screwed up the one thing the Broncos had going for them was a good young offense the the ability to grow and become even better. Cutler did throw a lot of INTS at critical times, but lets not forget. He had NO DEFENSE & NO RUNNING BACKS. When QB’s press they all throw a few picks trying to do too much.
HERE WE ARE AT SQUARE ONE. AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope this gets done in the next couple days at the most and doesn’t get dragged out til the draft. We need to solve this and move forward.

haha

1-2-3-4 Bus Cook deserves more……………money

God I hate that man

I always knew this little girl would leave my division

Hahahahaha! The RAIDERS are going to own you clowns now. Hahahahaha! The BRONCOS are dysfunctional. First, they fire Shanahan; second, they hire a snot nose coach and; third, Pro-Bowler Cutler is on his way to a new team. What a joke! You guys won’t see the playoffs for years to come. Hahahahaha! GO RAIDERS!!!

Let the cry baby go to Detroit or Cleveland and get his butt kicked. If he is gonna cry his way out of town then #6 will prove he will never be a #7.

I think the Denver Broncos need to have a press conference to clear the air and let everyone know the issues. I dont want to hear Cutler talk … I want Bowlen and McD to talk and tell us what happened.

Ant,

Square 1 is the Lions, square 2 is the Rams, we are at least square 3.

I am going to hate jay’s first interview as a new player of another team. But I doubt I’ll watch it.

We are not back to square one, lets see how this all plays out … ahh its so frustrating to assume with Cutler we would return to glory and without him we are doomed.

No one has any patience anymore, if we as fans don’t. How can anyone blame Bowlen for firing Cutler… if 10 calls were not returned then you fire him… end of story … Bowlen is not gonna kiss anyone’s ass … this is HIS TEAM … I’d do the same thing. I just hope they get it done fast … so we begin to forget the non playoff years known as the Cutler Era..

We should have been at square 5, I believed all we need was a defense. Now I don’t know what to believe.

(dee) do you honestly think we have a better shot at getting to the playoffs with a rookie or someone like quinn?

no. I dont

East

We will be fine, Bowlen brought in McDaniels to win now. You dont fire Mike Shanahan if you really believe that you are rebuilding and will only win 5-6 games in 2009, that makes no sense. You bring in McD because you want a change in direction (ie GET INTO THE PLAYOFFS) something that had not happened in a few years. Also if Bowlen felt that Cutler was not going to buy into the system McD set out to “WIN GAMES” then rather than him being a distraction to the team in 2009 it is better to trade him and get someone in here that “WANTS TO BE APART OF THE TEAM” and also wanted to help them “WIN GAMES”

This will not be a rebuilding year, you dont eat 21 million dollars on an ex coach just to go thru a rebuilding year and also pay a new coach 2-3 million dollars… Bowlen is a businessman and that isnt good business.

The Broncos will win this year, if I am wrong all of you can go at me all you want, but I believe in this organization and McD…. McD is an arrogant SOB and I believe so is Cutler …. MCD isnt planning on going 4-12 this year and watch Cutler play in the playoffs and then have media bury him…. It’s only April 1, the only fools today are all of us Bronco Fans that felt Cutler would become the next Elway when we had all the warning signs that he would not.

The Broncos will be back in 2009 , the Broncos WILL win , and McD will prove to all the naysayers wrong.

WATCH , WAIT , LISTEN …. The New Broncos are coming … August 09

ALL READY !
GO BRONCOS

jcampb ,

Perhaps not a rookie, but I believe we could be a playoff team with Brady Quinn running McD’s system which he was very familiar with at Notre Dame.

However, Matt Ryan and Flacco both took their teams to the playoffs as rookie’s so anything can happen. Flacco had a great defense , Matt Ryan had an OK defense, and above average RB and 1 good receiver … but hey didnt we beat them?

I was being facetious with the square 3 comment. You can’t really measure success in squares because well… they’re shapes.

All we can do is wait and watch. Hell at least this makes work/class more interesting for all of us.

I’ve always been a Bronco Fan First. Some trades I am disapointed in and some trades I think are great. Losing a quarterback like Jay Cutler is certainly disapointing, and this one borders on ridiculous. One thing I’ve learned about McDaniels is he is definitely a New England guy whether he has a place here is definitely a big ? mark. Jay Cutler is abandoning his team and is behaving like a big baby. Pat Bowlen wanted to run the team and look where it got him. I hope he has to Pay Shanahan for the next three years, and I think that supporting the Broncos is something that I will not enjoy as much even when they are losing because of the bad decisions they are making. Cutler to the Super Bowl, the race is on for the Broncos. I think Jay can turn a team around quicker than McDaniels or Bowlen ever will. I hope I am wrong

Gotta love your enthusiasm.

I don’t know about you guys but I’m happy old Pat finaly grew a pair and made the move. I will miss Cutler but I love the team more than any one player so I’m on board for whatever. I hope we get a smoking deal!

I’m glad Cutler is on his way out. Not a leader.

Let’s all remember that its the jersey we root for, not the player. Later Cutler, may the gods of football land you in Detroit or St. Louis where you will find out how good you had it with your old O-Line. Get ready to be hit 7 times a game. Try dropping back and holding the ball for four seconds behind one of those shitty lines.

Let’s brace for the sub .500 record we’ll have in 2009 but look forward to all the pics we’ll have this year and next year for improvement. This will be a process and unfortunately we need to give McD a mulligan for 2009 as East suggests. I’m guessing 6-10/7-9 will give us the 4-8 pick next year, atleast that’s quality especially if we have another team’s #1 for next year also. This year will be rough, but it’ll be about developing talent for the next season and beyond. we could hope for 8-8 in 2010, but in year 3 of the McDaniels Empire, if there’s not 10 wins on the board, he’s out. That’s just the basic facts people. Bowlen is going to give McD a shot at making this work and with Cutler gone that means rebuild to an extent.

What I meant was square 1 Qb wise. Brady Q would be a good option. I sure don’t like Chris Simms as our Qb

ANT,

I agree with you about Quinn. He might be great for us in McD system and he’s young with alot of upside.

Ant,

I agree, I like Simms as a backup but thats about it for me. Quinn is a good prospect and so is Trent Edwards from the Bills, he’s highly underrated.

As a fan, I will neither accept nor envision a mulligan. Anything less than .500 is unacceptable. We had a winning team as of yesterday morning.

Dee – Bowlen ate 21 million on Shanny so he could have a say in his teams directions again and the fact that Shanny had no clue how to draft/pick out defensive players. As much as I would have liked, you can’t make a man King and then ask him 15 yrs later to switch to Prince if it isn’t working out. Unfortunately, I see an 8-8 team at the best this year, and realistically a 7-9 team. You don’t remove a ProBowl centerpiece and improve, especially at the QB spot. Yes the defense is improved, but who knows by how much until they hit the field, and certainly not enough to make up for a huge drop in the offense. But we’ll see what McD can do with what he has at QB, we’ll see how Simms does, just no one expect 18-10 and 3,000 yds from him. That’s magic.

*had a team capable of winning*

2009 – Cutler’s gone, Scheffler will be gone apparently, and Marshall will be gone for atleast six games. How can we possibly replace this production and be a winning team? I don’t see that possible.

jcampb,

Every team is capable of winning, otherwise you wouldn’t be in the NFL. Some years it whether it’s the chemistry, the management, or the lack of desire from the players it just doesn’t work out.

I agree that it’s not acceptable to be below .500 from a fan’s eyes. However, I believe unless you have your resume ready to be sent to Dove Valley then all you can do is just brace for impact and be thankful you’re not a fan of the Lions.

I worked hard to fall in love with our new franchise QB…loved the talent no question, not the erratic bad decision making, but he was young, but he always was a bit of a baby…I am sad to see him go and hope we can get a new guy in the door who will be a CHAMPION like good ole John, not a whiner and a mope that acts like a 2nd grade girl that got left at the square dance. Those we once loved we tend to hate when they wrong us. He took his anger at McDaniel’s and punished Denver fans. Would not be surprised if he loved the media attention…knows he’ll get more with a trade. Screw him. The bitter part of me hopes he ends his a career in obscurity the other “better” side hopes he doesn’t waste his talent being a choking whiner. Which lets be honest, he did show signs of being a choker late this last season.

Capable of winning a super bowl.

I don’t understand why Cutler is not drooling over wanting to play with a coach who has proven he can develop Quarterbacks into the Elite players in the league. When it was first announced that McDaniels was the Denver coach I thought it was not a good match for Jay Cutler. McDaniels success has to do with the quarterback being Smart, making quick decisions and being consistent. Jay does not excel in any of these categories. He has a great arm and he is talented but he is not a fit for McDaniels. Jay had a pro bowl year because of two things. First he was behind an offensive line that was tops in the league. Second the offense had no run game and the game plan was designed for him to throw. Wherever Jay goes he will not have a pro bowl year in the near future. It will take him a few years to learn a new offense and he will not have the protection that he had in Denver

Send him to Detroit for a 6-pack and a rusty 1956 Chevy fender. It’s the least we can do.

J.C.’s behavior is childish and pathetic. I would rather the Broncos find a real grown up adult to lead them. Where is Jake these days?

Just buy some xanax and mellow if the Broncos start to get blown out by Cinnci next year.

Stav – Loved the earlier analogy. As you stated, I too am a bit nervous about losing Cutler because he is a tremendous talent. And I realize we may suffer through a grueling, unproductive season which is just not fun to think about. Lets face it, there are 5 good QBs in the league and 27 teams searching for one. We currently have one. BUT….I have to say I am horny for this trade. I CANT WAIT to see what we get.

i love the broncos but i wish theyd hurry up so i could get back to playing my madden

Thanks Pat Bowlen – you always said, “MY TEAM, MY TEAM”, well buddy – yes, you spent a lot of $$$ on this team, but the taxpayers also put lots of $$$ into YOUR new stadium. We here in Colorado and the Rocky Mt. area LOVE our team.

First you FIRE Shanney, then all of those other coaches, when all you had to do was to insist that Shanney just stay as the HEAD COACH.

As others have said, our defense was soooo horrid that Jay could hardly finish his cup of water after a TD, ’til the other team scored!!

You have an owner, numerous members of the organization, including the new head coach, you have veteran players, new free agents, college hopefuls and players yet to be signed or traded. All of these are in the mix for the business of football. The only ones being left out in all of this mixed up mess, are the same ones that are ALWAYS left out…the FANS. The fans that line up at the gate and pay the ridiculous prices; the fans, forever hopeful and loyal that never have a spokesman that carries any influence; the fans that will continue to be ignored by the owner, coach, media and highly paid players; the fans that will , just like always, be asked to sit back, shut up and let “the professionals” run the organization. Well, we’ve been sitting back, for the most part, remaining silent, and we’re watching “the professionals” run the organization, the teams hopes and the wishes of the fans right into the ground.

It’s time we turned our blind loyalty for this organization into something more useful and deserving of our time and finances. Is there anyone from Bowlen on down that gives a damn about anything other than their own bottom line. The fans are, first, last and ALWAYS, the only ones no one cares about and we only get “spin” from the organization AND the media. Witness all the events of 2009. This organization is a train wreck and eventually, the fans will be asked to pay the price for it all…just like always.

Paving the road for the Chiefs to be the AFC West Champs next year! Norv and Al will take care of the other teams in the West. How sweet it is. I know I’ll hear it from you guys but how great it is to revel in someone else’s misery. And you guys are all correct Cutler=whiner, McD=IDIOT

Do you think we can talk elways son into being our starting qb ill bet he is more grown up then crybaby jay

lol

Chris Mortensen reports. Asked by text message whether Bowlen has directly tried to contact him, Cutler replied, “No.”

His agent, Bus Cook, said the Broncos first got in touch with him on Tuesday.

“The perception that they’ve been burning the phone lines the last 10 days is wrong,” Cook said. “In fact, the other day I asked Jay if he had heard from them and he said, ‘no.’ I didn’t hear from them until yesterday [Tuesday] morning when [GM] Brian Xanders called me and said that Mr. Bowlen needs to speak with Jay now. I told him all I can do is leave Jay a message.

Xanders is the problem…………………. read the rest of the article Bowlen never called he had his new asst. do it
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4034863

Jay Cutler reportedly intended to show up for the Broncos’ first minicamp April 17-19 despite not communicating with coach Josh McDaniels or owner Pat Bowlen.

Cutler reportedly was surprised by Bowlen’s statement Tuesday after already shipping his car from Nashville to Denver. Of course, he wouldn’t respond to Bowlen’s requests to talk, so he can’t be too shocked. Cutler texted Tuesday that “he’s not talking about it.”

I remember another young QB who acted like a baby and didnt want to play for baltimore whne they drafted him!! How’d he turn out? McDaniels has sent this team into a tailspin, im not even looking forward to football now. This is an absolute nightmare. A team should never be about a coach.

T: Did you read about the Broncos response to that story that Cook & Cutler told the MSM about how Bowlen didn’t try to contact him until Tue & that Bowlen had not been trying to call Jay for 10 days?

In a statement released last night by the Broncos, team owner Pat Bowlen said that “numerous attempts to contact Jay Cutler in the last 10 days, both by head coach Josh McDaniels and myself, have been unsuccessful.”

Cutler’s camp says that’s just not so.

Sources close to Culter told NFL.com senior columnist Thomas George today that the quarterback contends he has not received any such calls from the Broncos.

Sources close to Bowlen responded to George in five words: “We have the phone records.”

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/01/broncos-source-we-have-the-phone-records/

Crook & Cuntler seem to be the one’s lying and spreading mistruths this whole way. They have trumped this whole ordeal up to get what they wanted from the time Shanny was canned, which was to get out of Denver. Why would they want this, b/c Bowlen fired the man who was going to make Cutler a very, very rich man this off-season. Instead Bowlen fires Shanny and a new coach comes to town who has different priorities than giving Cutler his huge payday. Priorities like building a SB contender. Everyone who is mad at Bowlen or McD has been duped by Cook at each step. Things are not always what the MSM reports as true. Cook, on behalf of Cutler, has played almost all of us for fools, through this whole ordeal. Bottom line, the Broncos wanted Cutler to be their QB. The reason he is getting traded is not b/c of Bowlen, or McD, or GM X. It is b/c Cutler didn’t want to be a Bronco. The Owner has a right to fire the HC. That doesn’t give the QB the right to cry about it and demand a trade.

Being born and raised a die hard Broncs fan I have defended the Broncos through thick and thin like so many other fans out there. Bowlen you have destroyed one of the greatest franchises in football history. First you bring in a young screw up like McDaniels and now you are letting the best QB the Broncs have had since Elway go. I will always be a Broncos fan. Its in my blood but the day Cutler comes back with whatever team he is playing for, I hope he kicks our ass. Cutler ain’t innocent in this, but McDaniels is far from a leader. You destroyed a team that was going to make it to the top. I speak for thousands of Bronco fans out there. Bowlen sell the team so that we can keep what little we have left. Then we can fire that pathetic excuse for a coach. McDaniels lied to Cutler from the start. Instead of fixing the mistake you made of hiring him, you let it go all the way. This is one Bronco fan who will always wear his Cutler jersey. McDaniels I give you two years tops.

All Bowlen has is an empty bottle from the night before. Who actually thinks Bowlen made the calls? He had his pathetic GM call… From what I understand most of those calls went to Bus Crook.

I want to start by saying that i have been a broncos fan for many years, i have alot of ups and downs. But this if the worst by far i have ever seen. i have been following this very close and here are some of my feelings.
1. alot of people are putting the blame on jay, how would people react if we put a different name in this problem lets say the name was john elway, and 11 yr ago this problem came up who do you think would be out the door elway or mcd?
2. i know that jay is young and has alot to learn,but hell i am in my 40″s and still learning something new everyday. i think jay is just defanding him self why play for some one that trys to backdoor you then lies about, McD never wanted jay to play for him from the beginning. jay is not a system qb he makes thing happen right or wrong but it is fun to watch. if i wanted to watch a qb stand in the pocket and look down the feild and say no one is open so i will throw it a way i would watch tom b. wow that fun to watch. it all started at the top owner, gm, and coach they are to blame…
3. if i was bowlen this is how i would have handled all this crap, after last season was over i would call shanny in my office and we did not make the playoffs, and here is what i want to do you choose eaither being my head coach or my gm, then i will hire one or the other
hay guess what we still have a very happy qb and we overhual the defence.

While i am a Titans fan, I have always liked the Broncos. Particularly in the days of Steve Atwater. For the life of me, I cannot see the wisdom of wanting Matt Cassell over Cutler. Can one of you explain this to me. Was Mcdaniels being arrogant, or did he really believe Cassell is a superior athelete and QB.