King: Cutler Requested Trade After OC Bates Fired

:( This has seriously ruined the last day and counting for me. I’m trying not to worry about it and hope that they’ll all be adults, sit down, and work this crap out. All sides could have handled things better, I don’t care who’s to blame, I just want resolution, quickly…

I can understand Jay having a “knee-jerk” reaction when Bates was let go. I think he got over it judging from interviews I saw with him after it was all over. However, I do not get shopping Jay so we could pick up Matt freaking Cassel.

Cutler wont be going and im gonna tell you why. there isnt anyone out there that can come in and do what Cutler did this past year, with 7 RB’s on IR. but here is the biggest thing, McDaniels should have laughed and slammed down the phone the second he heard “Cutler” and “Trade” in the same sentence. what in idiot. is anyone less enthusiastic about this season now? i know iam. Cutler wants out, Marshall arrested again, McDaniels is a Putz, so is Xanders, Bowlen is to drunk to do anything. when is it all gonna end?? if there i a single one of you who thinks we are gonna be anymore then disfunctional this year the you need meds and a padded room. McDaniels just couldnt leave well enough alone. just like Shanahan he is letting his ego get in the way. but hey thats who Bowlen wanted. another Shanahan. his words not mine.

What a mess…I’ve seen less drama at a slumber party.

Just a quick reminder, it’s March 2nd,

Everybody just needs to chill because if any of you who say
“it’s all over” start singing the praises of MCD or GMX in September or November, I’m gonna remind you about it.

Carmelo Anthony had the best advice for Cutler…

“You got to learn that it is a business, especially with him,” said Anthony, who last summer was ultimately reassured by Nuggets exec Rex Chapman that Denver wouldn’t trade him. “(Cutler) has been the guy who they’ve been saying could be the next (John) Elway perhaps. (Trade rumors) are always a tough situation because you don’t know where it’s coming from, who’s saying it, if it’s true, if it’s false. That was my big thing this summer. Just let me know, so I can get my mind off thinking about where it’s coming from and who’s saying it and who’s not saying it.”

Cutler needs to quit whining, get in to Dove Valley, and listen to MCD and GMX tell him that he’s not going anywhere, then we can all move on.
If he keeps up the I’m going to hide for a while BS, then so be it, get the #1 pick from Detroit and start over.

Get over it Cutler. We want u as a bronco!!!!!! Relax man

I agree with NathanH, just hope they get it worked out. That being said, talks of trades are always out there and they must listen to them just as the CEO of any company needs to listen to any offer to buy the company even though it was not for sale (it’s just usually not “leaked” in the news. I love Jay and really like what the new coach has done so far, so I hope this gets worked out soon.

The big mistake here by Josh and crew is one of a financial nature, and a financial nature ALONE.

This is all about the Benjamins. If you are Cutler’s agent, Josh McDaniel just insured that your big payday will be much sooner than it would have been 2 years from now.

There are really only two scenarios that play out from here:

1) The Broncos trade Jay Cutler to a new team that signs him to Manning Money, $100 million+.

2) The Broncos re-work his contract, supposedly to soothe his bruised ego and he gets, you guessed it, Manning Money.

This could not have worked out better for Jay even if his agent has actually choreographed the entire thing.

Remember, there are no bruised egos in sports—there’s only: “Show me the money!!!!”

Think about it: If the Broncos announce sometime between now and the draft that Jay is their man and they have signed him to a new 10 year, $120 million dollar contract, with guarantees in the $50 million plus range, is Jay bruised ego gonna be OK?

Whaddayathink?

Whatever the new contract is, he ought to send a couple percent to Bill Bellicheat for making it all possible. Did the old man (Bill) school the kid (Josh) on this one or what?

Candide, Spot on!!
I’d say that about sums it up

Candide makes a good point, but i have a hard time believing that alll this is accurate.

There’s WAY TO MUCH speculation and weird reporting out there. We all need to let the fire go out…let the smoke clear…and wait for the Broncos organization AND Jay give a press release.

I will say this however. If Jay leaves… This franchise is going to take a serious dive. We wont be super bowl bound for a long long time.

What a crappy way to start a Monday.

Mcdaniels is a passing offense type of coach. Why would Cutler go anywhere else. All the passing teams in the NFL already have QBs, except the Cardnals. He will stay if he knows whats best for him. As an ex college QB, he wants to pass and Denver is where he will get to do that.

I’ve been supportive of Cutler on this board for a while and still think he’s a good person and just a little naive about dealing with the press. Regardless of whether he was shopped or not, it was the Broncos call not his. But lets get one thing straight. His declining to show up for a “Clear the Air Meeting” is Bulls###.

I regularly manage young men in my business, and I require that they:

1 Show up on time and be ready to work.
2 Exibit some maturity(I deal with young scientists) and a degree of professionalism.
3 Understand the golden rule(he who has the gold rules)

I’ve always given them the latitude to be themselves, but they are no longer “Grad students”, and there comes a time to grow up.

I am beginning to believe that Cutler hasn’t figured out that he’s no longer the BMOC at Vanderbildt. He signed a CONTRACT, and he needs to live up to it without being a petulant child. Grow up Jay, show up and talk to your employers.

Candide may be right, but IMO, NO
I do not see McDaniels and Xanders offering an extention to Cutler because he got his feelings hurt. And I hope that does not happen because that would be a quick way to lose your whole team.
I do think that we have not heard the end of this. Since Cutler may have started the ‘I want a trade’ thing and other teams know this, I see other offers coming in. But not until draft day.

Think of this, a team (TB, Chicago, Minn, Detroit) offers #1, #2, and #3 for Cutler. Do you pull the trigger?

Candide-
I completely agree. Money fixes all. If jay gets paid this is a non issue. If the broncos dont pay him than either way he would have been out the door either now or later. This whole thing probably sped up Jay’s payday.
Man this totally ruined my weekend. I still think it might be a good idea for the broncos to make a press conference to announce that Cutler isnt going anywhere. My reasoning is because this thing may not go away and could continue to grow. There are articles and ESPN commentators wondering if the broncos still might try to deal Cutler. I understand that these are not reliable sources but an official comment from onwership might help to put this to rest. I agree with what someone else stated that Cutler should head back to denver and get this meeting over with. These guys still write his pay checks and this is working for him right now. The fans are on his side and a big payday could be on the horizon. Right now McD is the bad guy but if cutler continues to stay away and complain things might start to sway the other way. I say we sign him. Give him the big bucks. I honestly feel like Cutler has amazing talent and has all the tools to be a Championship QB. Just my opinion.

You know what i find interesting. Denverbroncos.com wont touch this topic with a 10 foot pole.

At what point does Bowlen step in and say, “Hey, enough fellas. Let’s hug and make up.”

On a serious note. When does he get involved and demand that this be worked out?

it’s spinning out of control…..
This from the Denver Post, via ROTOWORLD…

“A league source told the Denver Post that the Vikings have expressed interest in Jay Cutler.
The Lions also remain interested, but Denver is adamant about keeping Cutler. The Broncos wouldn’t want Detroit’s No. 1 pick because of the cost and neither team can offer a QB that would make a deal feasible. The Broncos only would’ve traded Cutler if they were getting Matt Cassel in return.”

Source: Denver Post

T-Money, I’m thinking they need to say something soon, it’s all over the internet, in the ESPN rumor pages as well.
Bill Williamson even speculates about swapping Cutler for Cassel with KC…
Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson

Here’s an idea:

How about a Jay Cutler-for-Matt Cassel trade?

By now, the football world knows that the Broncos were involved in talks about getting Matt Cassel from New England before the Patriots traded Tom Brady’s injury replacement to Kansas City. The Broncos’ motivation was to reunite former New England offensive coordinator and new Denver head coach Josh McDaniels and Cassel.

Then, Denver, as ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports, may have sent Cutler to Tampa Bay.
The Broncos are now in a bind. Cassel is out of the picture and Cutler is upset that the Broncos entertained the thought of dealing him. Cutler would like Denver to deal him.

The Broncos can do one of two things: Try to mend the issue with Cutler or deal him. The problem is, Denver has no other quarterback options if it trades Cutler.

So maybe the Broncos go back to the root of the issue and offer Cutler to Kansas City for Cassel if McDaniels really would prefer Cassel. In most NFL circles, the younger, more experienced Cutler is considered a better player than Cassel.

Yes, Cassel fits the Patriots Way that McDaniels appears to be so consumed by and he runs the same system as McDaniels, but Cutler is the better player. Perhaps Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, another Patriot disciple who also lives the Patriot Way, would see a bargain and make the swap.

After all, talents like Cutler don’t get shopped every day. Then, everyone would be happy. McDaniels gets to be back with Cassel and the Chiefs would get a very good player from one of their rivals.

Makes sense, right? But, of course, this likely won’t happen because it all so absurd.

But then, this whole saga has been absurd.

T-Money,

Yeah, after Andrew Mason left the personality of that site and ability to bring a unique transparency left as well…. It’s kinda sad, really.

The more I read the more I beggining to believe cutty needs to stop being such a premadonna. To see him pout on the sideline makes me sick, the dude needs to grow up.

QB is the one position that you have to have the player satisfied with the money. It’s just too easy to screw up at that position and hurt the head coach. Jay was probably quite satisfied with his contract until Friday but now that he has been dissed he knows he doesn’t have to be anymore.

What exactly can the Broncos do except to pay him or trade him. He is on record saying he wouldn’t mind being traded. And no amount of “I’m sorry” or “We really didn’t mean it” is going to cover it.

All sides know that this is a business. Only us fans are stupid enough to think otherwise. Jay will get paid the big bucks much sooner now one way or the other.

I understand where you’re coming from Candide, but I respectfully disagree. If you appease an angry player with a fat contract, you set a dangerous precedent for the rest of the team. Cutler’s contract is fair right now for all parties involved.

McD and company messed up bad – he and Xanders are both on the hot seat as far as I’m concerned – but they’re still Cutler’s employers and Cutler needs to appear to a meeting if they deem it necessary, as hard as that may be.

Does anybody remember when Cut and Bates use to scream at each other during practice or in meetings? I think this is going to turn out to be similar relationship with McD. Things always have a way of working them selves out even if it’s a love hate relationship. I think cooler heads will prevail. Cut’s agent Cook was Farves agent as well right? Nothing but drama there. I am done with this situation since I think all will be good to go. What is getting me as of now is the free agents we are bring in on the D. Dawkins is great but everybody else? I’m not seeing it, what I am seeing is McD played Miami alot with NE and he thinks their secondary was outstanding? I hope he will start to address the line soon with “solid” players because that is what killed us last year and so far I’m not to impressed. AND PLEASE STOP MESSING WITH THE OFFENSE! Don’t mess with something that’s not broken. I still think the replacing Leach move was totally uncalled for, ya McD we get it you were with NE already you can stop bring in there cast offs now. 20 bucks we sign there FA FB Evans too.

The sad part about this whole deal (for me) doesn’t involve Cutler. I’d like to consider myself a newer generation coach who understands today’s coveted athletes better, but I have little tolerance for crybaby sh*t. I love Cutler’s physical and analytical capabilities on the football field, but he’s really getting on my last nerve.

The class act football player is an endangered species. Instead of having a sit down kum-by-yah session with McD and GmX, maybe he should have a sit down, shut up and listen with Brian Dawkins or Karl Mecklenberg or Champ Bailey. These guys do (or did) play football balls to the wall and don’t (didn’t) play a game of media tag to make some grand point. I’ve had it with this crap, even though it’s not going to end today.

The Super Bowl champs of the last several years (Patriots, Giants, Steelers, Colts) don’t have issues like this because the owner/coaching staff) doesn’t allow it. The coaches and Bowlen need to set the precedent right now if they want to make something of this team in the next several years to come.

I’m behind Cutler if he decides to grow up a little and not let his little feelings get hurt. If not, get rid of his ass and get someone who has the intestinal fortitude to play quarterback and win championships in the NFL.

I think Cutler needs to grow up – It’s not Show-friends it’s Show BUSINESS..

Well.. to a point this lets the broncos brain trust off the hook ‘a little’, if the story is true…

Now they are just a messy soap opera where no is lying and no one is telling the truth

Let’s just say I am very happy that the pre season doesn’t start til Aug. Hopefully time heals all wounds and McD and Cutler can get some sort of understanding. Again lots of great moves regardless, shame all this Cutler stuff had to happen.

So all of you who have employees working under you, let me ask you this. Is it fair for you to have a mandatory meeting with an employee while he is on vacation? Is he supposed to drop what he is doing and run back while “off the clock”? Jay isn’t even in Denver, and this is still the off-season ana Jay’s vacation time. How is it fair that his employers call him into a meeting she
N he isn’t even in town? Seriously?

jchase: If you’re making millions, and it’s an emergency, yes. Get back as soon as you can.

Plus his “vacation” lasts months. Every year. Us normal folk get a one-week break every other year or something. ;)

Wow guys, you really have to watch the videos and stuff of espn (I know they are full of shit and everything) but now its gettin’ wild. Everything is bashing cutler now. They are all saying that he needs to grow up and get over this. They say that this is a trade that never happened, and he is acting as of it did. They are all personally bashing Cutler now. Maybe this will get his ass to Denver. I love Jay Cutler. He is my favorite player on the team, by far. I want nothing more than just for him to come back to Denver and be happy. I hope he does. He is the man

jchase8410 – I’d say it’s more than fair when you are whining to the media ever chance you get. Obviously not on much of a “vacation” if he’s got that kind of time. He either needs to sit down with them or shut up (ok…he should do both).

Gene Wojciechowski wrote a great article on ESPN today in regards to this whole situation. I know ESPN is on the hated list by most Broncos fans, but I agree wholeheartedly with his assessment.

He pointed out Derrick Brooks’ statement on being cut by the Bucs last week after being with them for 14 years. Brooks said, “Everybody has a picture that they want painted their own particular way, but when the picture’s not painted your way, you don’t kick and scream. You be a man about it.”

Anytime now, Jay- anytime.

There goes our great offseason!!! All of the great pickups we made through free agency are now being overshadowed by Cutler and Marshall, the supposed leaders of this team. These two need to grow up fast, and get on board. This team is headed for great things and they are going to be left out if they don’t stop the non-sense!!!

Espn’s dogging on cutty hard. “stop whining about a trade that never happened” “you haven’t won anything yet” “bad character” are just a few. Now it looks like Cutty’s only choice is to shrug it off. He doesn’t sound like a NFL QB, he sounds like my kid sister when were in the car for too long.

I love Jay but he needs to shut up and be a man! I am starting to think that we SHOULD trade him! Is he ever gonna play as hard as before now that he almost got traded is he care if we win or lose? I am hearing the Lions are still interested lets trade him for the #1 pick and start over! Lets roll the dice on Matt Stafford and take it from there.

Gene Wojciechowski is a freaking moron. That piece is self-serving and contrived. His conclusion is, “Jay Cutler has pretty passing numbers, but so what?” SO WHAT? Are you kidding me? That’s the entire point of this whole dilemma!! Jeebus!

Does anybody know anything about Ward yet???

Ug, enough with the whining.

Teams call this time of year. We have no idea what was said, or even how long the conversation lasted. As a business person, I’m always willing to listen to what someone has to say, even if I know no way in heck am I going to give them what they are asking for. That’s how you uncover opportunity.

And what’s King’s point here, other than throwing more fuel on a fire that was dying out?

Remember, this is also the man that said Robert Gallery was going to be awesome, and followed around Brett Favre like a little lost puppy. Bus Cook was also Favre’s agent, and he did a bang-up job damaging two other franchises. This is just messy and spreading more rumors and innuendo ain’t gonna help.

@Kyle

As Hyman Roth said in the Godfather: “This is the business we’ve chosen”

Jay knows that. Josh knows that. You make mistakes, and you get whacked. If a player does not perform up to expectations in the NFL, you fire him and you donn’y have to pay anymore of the contract (except the guaranteed part). In the NFL contracts are not guaranteed because the union (unlike basebal and basketball) wasn’t strong enough to get that in labor contract.

On the converse, Josh McDaniels blew it, publicly. It’s going to cost his owner a whole lot more money whether he trades Jay or not. “That is the business he has chosen.”

this jay cutler mess is ridiculous
http://fanzak.com/fzrants/Does_the_NFL_stand_for_

Yes I love Cutler and think that it was stupid that they even attempted to trade him or whatever happened. Even if they just listened very inently. At the same time he needs to grow up. To say no to your boss when he asks to have a meeting. Jay we all love you…take the advice of Melo and realize it was strictly business and move on. At least listen to McDaniels…

I understand that Kyle, but I really don’t see this as an Emergency. I guess it could be. This is really my first comment on this while debaucle. I am trying to ride out the waves so to speak. I don’t believe anything I read that isn’t directly from the person(s) involved. So, until this meeting that Bus Cook says was never scheduled actually happens, I am reserving judgement. I have my own theory as to what may have taken place derived from what I have read, but again, I am not going to point the blame or change my opinion on anyone. It is a lot like Phil Jackson not wanting to coach Kobe, but they both got over it enough to Dominate the western conference.
It appears to me that TB and or Detroit called about a possible trade for Cutler, to which McD said, “if you can get me Cassel I would consider it.” that way everyone who has reported it can be right. The broncos didn’t initiate the trade talks, but did actively shop Jay at the same time…but who knows? Just speculation on my part. I’m not mad at anyone until I know all the facts.

I think that if these rumors continue to escalate – which that is all they are – rumors… We will soon hear that Philly is interested in shipping McNabb to the Broncs for Cutler… I know it wont happen, but it will be the next RUMOR… McNabb has worn out his welcome and Cutler has just set his on fire… and “sources” will say that Dawkins and Buckhalter have “reached out to Donovan” – My point is that there is an OBVIOUS appetite out there for these rumors and these websites need to feed the hunger and they wont let it just die.

Kyle…

I think it’s time for a create-a-caption. There is way to much sarrow, pity, and anger in this locker room! It’s time to lighten the mood…

Quick note: Jason Taylor just got released. Anyone think we should go after him now that Canty is gone? More leadership…

This is a great read!!! AMEN to this article!!! Cutler is not bigger than the Broncos!!!
http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/3946294

Joe, Jason Taylor wouldn’t play 3-4 DE, but has expressed interest in OLB. I’d like it.

Why would PETER KING only put out this info now…….Why not when he heard the story….sounds like a jay clayton story to me

atleast things dont suck on Madden 09.

Wisdom can come from experience, after Jay gets torched by the media and his peers he may realize:

1) never listen to “throw you under the Bus Cook” or the media, who are only boiling this pot for their own gain.

2) you lose teammate and fan respect the instant you show ZERO class

3) if you are the role model for every diabetic kid in the country, you don’t act like your in their grade.

To Pat Bowlen – Fire McDaniels – 1) He’s obviously a horrible judge of talent (Cutler is better than Elway at year 3 & better than Cassel will ever be & 2) he has no integrity – what player will ever trust him – perhaps something picked-up in New England – From a ling-time Bronco Fan since the orange crush days

Why hasn’t there been a press conference about this? I want to hear bowlen, xanders, or McD to say something about this issue.

Has anyone seen the story on ESPN regarding Cutler … “Quit Cryin Cutler?”… I loved it …Cutler the new Brett Favre? Wait … Brett actually wins games … ZING!

“merc22″ I’m thinking the same thing. They could have put an end to all the speculation and the story would go away. Since neither side seems to want to talk, maybe a trade is in the works.

It sucks to have a new coach come in and dismantle the best young offense in the league.
What’s next Clady doesn’t fit the NE mold.

I can not believe this has become a discussion. I wish someone from Dove Valley would have a press conf to put this thing to rest. Franchise QBs are hard to come by and those who want Jay shipped out of here must quickly forget the period between John retiring and Jay arriving when we didnt have one. Give this guy some D and hell start winning. Jays the man…Go Broncos

Fire Josh –
1) Can NOT evaluate talent (Cutler is better than Elway at year 3 & better than Cassel will ever be
2) He has NO integrity – what player will ever trust him
3) Last I checked he has won NOTHING

Well it’s hard to have a meeting when Jay is not in Denver. I say they will meet up as soon as Jay gets to Denver. And yes, I know that he could easily fly there anytime he wants to. I say it happens sometime throughout this week and all this shit gets taken care of. Jay will be a Bronco. Jay will remain a Bronco. Jay will be the Bronco’s QB in the long future to come.

Elway 4 Ever

We all know this is all happening so Denver can draft Jack Elway … It makes so much sense.

Ok back to reality …. look this is kinda stupid now … Cutler is pouting and if I was McDaniels I’d really question his mental makeup I mean come on … get over yourself. Also with Brandon Marshall getting arrested I think McDaniels actually looks better. McDaniels SOLE interest is winning game, and neither Cutler or Marshall is helping him do that. Either Cutler gets on board right now or we trade his ass. Marshall is gone for 8 games , so Eddie Royal will have to be big for us this year.

(kicking and punching the woman who supposedly is responsible for you “maturing” as a man, isnt going to impress the Commish. Lets call a spade a spade .. B Marsh likes to hit women)

The Denver Broncos agreed to a two-year, $5 million contract with San Francisco 49ers free agent defensive tackle Ronald Fields,

J –

source?

Just watched total access, Schefter said cutler wont be traded( i believe him). Cutler will forget about this by us going 4-0 this season, and a nice contract. But i still have this feeling like 5% that he will be traded

PTF

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/02/broncos-add-ronald-fields/

Just to add:

The Denver Broncos agreed to a two-year, $5 million contract with San Francisco 49ers free agent defensive tackle Ronald Fields, according to a league source.

The 6-foot-2, 315-pound defensive lineman played in all 16 games last season. He was credited with 19 tackles, according to NFL.com.

In four NFL seasons, the former Mississippi State player has registered 75 tackles and one sack.

More on Fields with a positive review from RotoWorld.com:

Broncos agreed to terms with DT Ronald Fields on a two-year, $5 million contract.
The rest of the league missed the boat on Fields, who is 27, 6’2/321, and can play both tackle and end. He gives new DC Mike Nolan a realistic option to play nose tackle in 3-4 looks. Save career special teamer Darrell Reid, Fields is the Broncos’ first upside signing of the offseason. All their other pickups have been 29 or older, including the long snapper.

Why is it every time I open broncotalk I feel like I am in the twilight zone. Geez, what a mess.

where is Jay hiding out these days? Indiana?

Good signing. Nolan must have felt comfortable with his potential if he was willing to bring him in, and a big body like that can’t hurt at this point with the switch to the 3-4 considering our personell.

I like that he’s versatile enough to play end as well.

Ward signed with Tampa :(

I just read that jason taylor has been released, i personally think he is the kind of player that denver could use to mentor all the young defensive players. Yes he has commitment issues, but a change of scenario could do wonders to this guy. He was once a top 5 guy at this position, and only a few years from solid numbers. Do you think denver can dig dip and wheel this guy in?

I personally think we have picked up enough guys that are 30+ in age. I dont think we should persue Taylor. I have noticed that there are still some quality safties on the market i.e. Leonhard, Sean Jones, Jermaine Phillips… Do you guys think we might try and add a younger safety for insurance/depth or for some competition? Or just wait for the draft? How many more guys do you think we may sign?

Gawd! It’s been what, two days? Let the Cutler issue simmer for a couple more! It’ll be ok. Fields was a great sign, now we can take a chance in the draft rather than go for the average but sure starter. I like the idea of bringing in Taylor if he really wants to play (only)

BTW Cutler should get his azz in to talk quickly but no need to come a-runnin’! He was lied to. Any of you want to deny that? He was shopped. How could they even try to run that he wasn’t?!!
But he was kept. He needs to come in.

It is now known that Jay Cutler demanded a trade and threw a fit when Shanahan was fired and Jeremy Bates went to USC. Did you hear that he demanded to be traded! So why when a deal for Cassel comes up wouldn’t the Broncs look into it? I have been saying since this story broke that this was all Jay’s making with his petulant whining and if the relationship between him and the Broncos is strained it is solely his fault. Josh McDaniels knows this isn’t going to work because of Jay and was doing what he needed to do for the betterment of the team. Sounds to me like Jay is the one that needs to apologize but I say ship him down the road!

I have watched videos from reporters saying that they have talked to Jay and he wanted to emphasize that he did not demand to be traded. That bullshit all came from the idiots off of ESPN. I just watched a thing on Jay this morning, and it was his voice being played. He said that he knows a lot of things can happen now until the draft, but he has a feeling that he would be a Bronco next season. That was on channell seven this morning, where I also learned about the Marshall thing. Jay is not going anywhere

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f0977e

Watch. Learn. Listen. Love.
Shefter says he’s not going anywhere.
Yes, the Adam Shefter.

I’ve had lots of time to stew over this the past few days, and my position has changed because I’ve had a chance to review a lot more of the story.

Memo to JC: Dude, you’re not even a .500 QB! Seriously! The Broncos have had their asses kicked pretty bad over the past few years, and haven’t seen a playoff game since 2005. Our defense was unspeakably awful last season. Our famed head coach is gone. Our star wide receiver spends more time on “COPS” than on the football field. We went through SEVEN running backs last season. So why are you so surprised that the Broncos might be trying to trade you? McDaniels is trying to put together the best team he can in an effort to WIN. He’s seen you on film, and he saw you play when the Broncos got their asses handed to them in a 41-7 loss to the Pats in 2008. He has spent time with Matt Cassel and knows that he has a ton of upside. Do you really think that no one should ever even CONSIDER the notion of trading you? Yes, it’s true… you have raw talent. But franchise quarterbacks lead – all the time. Not just when the team is winning or when the season is fresh and new. Leaders lead during the worst of times. Leaders lead during times of change, and times of turmoil. If you want to be the quarterback of the future for the Denver Broncos (or any other team), then stop this bs and come to the table and lead this team the way they need to be led. And if you’re not going to lead, then get the hell out of the way so that we can find someone who leads both on and off the field.

What Schefter says happens. Ignore ESPN once he’s spoken.

Tampa signed Koutouvides.

What a mess…. This and the Ike Marshall saga have completely ruined my week.

Of all the conspiracy theories I’ve considered, I think Candide’s makes the most sense. Also, I wouldn’t underestimate the role of Buss Cook in all of this. He wants his payday now, with Jay coming off of a pro bowl season. Buss knows that Jay’s numbers are likely to dip next year while he learns a new offense, which will lower his market value just before he re-ups. Buss wants a deal now and I wouldn’t be surprised if Buss told the Bucs and Lions to call Denver himself. It’s pretty clear from all of his quotes in the media today that he’s in no hurry to resolve this.

Regardless of who’s to blame, both sides have completely neglected the fans in all of this, and I find that very troubling.

Trade the cry baby…holy freaking sh**…just shut up and play…all the freaking auto workers are just hoping toyota buys their company so they all just have jobs…freaking cry baby doesn’t know how damn good he has it.

Not related.

But, since the Dolphins cut veteran DE Holliday, who had a great year last year, would anyone else be interested in the Broncos signing him?

He’s 33, but he had a good year last year and he’s one more 3-4 guy that could play right away. Plus, he was a team captain for the Fins.

Cutler to the titans for bullock and young.

The bottom line is that Culter nor the Offense needed anytype of work this off-season. It was the Defense. Cassel is a good QB but he had a great Offense and Defense to help him win the games that he did. Cutler had to work with a hurt-RB situation and a horrible Defense and still made it to the Pro-Bowl. Josh is crazy and the executives are crazy for even considering trading Jay. Josh just had one job to do this year and that was building the Defense…which he has done so far… but to dismantle a proven strong offense at the same time is just plain stupid. As much as I hated hearing the news of Mike losing his job I gave Josh a chance and so far I am not too sure about ability to take us to the next level.

I told you so!!! Finally redemption is mine. All I have to say is 13-3, One Game from the Super Bowl, Jake Plummer, and Frat Boy Cutler. Now that I have that off my chest it feels so good. Look for me at the next home game with my Plummer Jersey and a laugh for all you Bandwagon losers in your new Cutler jerseys. This kid has a strong arm, bad hair, no deep ball touch, bad attitude, and has never won anything. LOSERS

Hahahahahhahaahha, Vince Young is 10x the head case Cutler is, and doesn’t have half the talent. I’m sorry but we all need to seriously just take a deep breath, and realize that this thing will work itself out. It’s March 2nd, preseason isn’t even for 6 months, relax guys. Jay’s upset, its been 2 days, he’ll calm down, the FO will resolve it. If Schefter says he’s not getting traded, than I wouldn’t even worry about any draft day offers.

I love Cutler as a Bronco but come on man. Thousands have been laid off, me included and he whines when the front office listens to a business proposal. This, “I didn’t get picked first so now I don’t wanna play” crap reminds me of the fifth grade.

Let’s say the front office wanted Cassel and a 1st and second or Cassel, a pick and a player or two. It is a value business and sometimes you take a slight step back at one position for the overall improvement of the team. It is obvious they did not get the value they wanted to part with Jay and for that he should be flattered. Nobody in Denver wanted the straight up deal of Cassel to Denver, Cutler to Tampa and Tampa’s 1st to New England or it would have happened. The Pats settled for a second and threw in Vrabel for goodness sake. It was a bad deal for the Broncs and they passed.

Cutler not coming in to clear the air really puts me on tilt. That is simply poor leadership. We love him for being a leader and it is a requirement of the role. It is fine to be pissed but to hide and pout is just immature and wrong. Not to mention he is fine with whining to the press but not to those who have reached out to fix it.

I am a lifelong Bronco fan and spent my youth daily watching camp in Greeley. I want every Bronco to sincerely want to be a Bronco. You suck it up for your teammates Jay! You suck it up for the fans that are paying you Jay!

Holy Freaking Crap JJ-

Cutler for Young?! You thought Cutler was being immature. Vince had to go to therapy with his parents and his coach.

If cutler doesn’t grow some ball, man up to his responsibilities, take some pride in his carrer in Denver… and he continues to act like a child with the organization, then… He could very well be packing. But personally I think we have beat the dead horse long enough… let EVERYBODY get some space (if you have ever been in a relationship you should know that LIMITED time and space is generally a good thing) cool off the jets and let the next few days pan out.

I think this article just about sums everything up.

http://biased-sports.com/jay-cutler-the-nfls-emo-child/

Hey what’s up? Nearly 24 hours have gone by without anything happening to the Broncos. No trade demands, no arrests, no free agency signings. Another 24 hours like this tomorrow and then another few weeks of them until the draft and then everything will be better.

Cutler needs to grow up and do it now. He has let this get way out of hand. He’s acting like a spoiled high school jock. Here’s a message to Cutler, when you take a team to a Superbowl on your own back then you can act like you own this franchise up to this point you haven’t taken a team to the playoffs so shut up and do your job. One other thing is there seems to be one heck of a lot more Cutler fans around here then Bronco fans.

Bring back Jake Plummer. At least he had a winning record. This guy has been a pain since he was drafted. The only problem is, what QB is out there that would replace him. Not in this year’s draft, not on the free agent market, and nobody will trade a proven winner to Denver. I just want them to win, I don’t care about Cutler’s ego. He isn’t John Elway, we won’t see another Elway maybe ever again. I remember Floyd Little and he hasn’t risen again either. Just “Go Broncos, Go!!!”

Train Wreck!!!!

Rumors say Cutler for Quinn, Rodgers, 3rd?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Will-Denver-send-Cutler-to-Cleveland-for-Rogers-?urn=nfl,145345

I really, really love Jay Cutler’s ability, and don’t want to trade him. This is making me all really sad. Its going to be so much different watching the team next year if we trade him. You can say goodbye to B-Marsh if we trade Jay too, thats his guy.

NathanH, we can say goodbye to Marshall if Cutler goes? What a load a hooey. You and Cutler are too peas in a pod and do not understand the “Business” of football. I believe for all his shortcomings that Brandon does. He gets to be the man in a pass first offense that created the leagues best numbers ever in Brady and Moss in 2007. Loyalty is fine and all but winning is what matters. Marshall will be a Bronco for as long as they allow him to be.

If you find a trade rumor about cutler… just keep of off here… Stoping reading this crap.

It’s been very hard for me lately to Understand what Our Beloved Denver Broncos are doing, 1st they let go of 1 of the most MASTERMINDED coaches that has ever coached, Then they Hire Kids to Coach our team, and play a Dreadfull Hand on Hold’em with 1 of the most Hall of Fame Potential QB’s in the league that may i add has the strongest ARM since the names of Marino, and of Coarse our John Elway have played the game. No disrespect to you Mr. Bowlen its time too FOLD your YOUNG Dreams of running this team and Go BACK to WHAT GOT DENVER ON THE MAP. MASTERMIND COACHES Not MIND BOGGLING IDIOTIC Coaches before you lose a lot of money in your operations and ticket sales. I would hate to see that in such a story Franchise. We are not the Patriots, We are the BRONCOS we have our OWN SYSTEM dont need theres.

I would hate to see Cutler get traded. He brings so much passion to the team. It would be a terrible decision to trade him. But if worst comesto worst…then I say we trade him to Detriot for the #1 pick and get us guy who can handle drama…like Matt Stafford.

He was just talking out of rage because he was promised they would keep bates. but then they had to go and piss him off again by trying to trade him behind his back. good i just really hate Mcdumbass

I am sickened with the back handiness that is going on with the Broncos right now. I DO NOT want Cutler to go. I am really starting to wonder about the coach and the front office now. without trust in a team as a whole, you have nothing!

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Don’t you just love the media distorting everything for the sake of ratings?