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Published on 04/24/2010 at Sat Apr 24 03:12.
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Wild Horses

Posted Sat Apr 24th by

There’s something going on in Denver and it’s not what you think.

Last offseason Josh McDaniels famously said that the Denver Broncos would do things on offense that had never been done before. A Brandon Marshall reception record is not necessarily what I think McDaniels was talking about though.

I think that he was putting together the puzzle, but the pieces weren’t fitting. The Broncos did the best they could with what they had in 2009; eventually the NFL figured it out and swarmed like sharks once they saw the blood dripping in the water.

Tim Tebow or William Wallace? Tebow cries FREEDOM!

Tim Tebow or William Wallace? Tebow cries FREEDOM!

Just a day removed from the first round of the NFL Draft, something’s up.

McDaniels and Brian Xanders played the first round like a violin, finesse leading to a full on barrage that ended in a beautiful concerto. And in the end Denver ended up better than it was at the beginning of the day, a replacement for Marshall and a quarterback for the future at last.

I don’t blame Denver fans that aren’t over the top for the pick of Tim Tebow, Bronco fans have been here before: Tommy Maddox was brought on to replace John Elway, Brian Griese was brought in for the same reason, Jay Cutler to replace Jake Plummer and Tom Brandstater to replace Kyle Orton.

I even see the hesitation to be excited about Demaryius ‘Bay Bay’ Thomas, the Broncos haven’t had a first round receiver come in and contribute since Ricky Nattiel in 1987 arguably. Though I think Ashley Lelie was good, he could have been great, but left the system too early and got eaten up by ego and the NFL.

Now here’s the rest of the story:

It’s not much of a secret that no one has ran for as many touchdowns in the NCAA as Tebow since Herschel Walker. He was highly criticized and many think he’s not cut out for the NFL. The choice of Tebow brought on comparison of McDaniels to Mike Shanahan and not the good kind. Maurice Clarett’s name boomed in whispered form from the backdoor of Dove Valley through the front in a matter of milliseconds.

Tebow could very well be the biggest mistake McDaniels makes as a head coach in Denver and the nail in the coffin to his career with the Broncos. One thing is undeniable though, Tebow can ball. He can fix his mechanics, his throwing motion, his pocket presence, all of them. Matter of fact he’s sworn that they will.

Yet what appealed to McDaniels about Tebow?

Tebow played in a spread offense in college, got the ball out of the shotgun formation nearly every snap and was accompanied by one if not two running backs on nearly every play…

I heard it said by an NFL Network analyst and I thought it myself, when the Broncos played the New England Patriots in Denver last season they were running just that offense. The spread.

Demaryius Thomas breaks a tackle follwing a reception in the ACC Championship game. (AP Photo/Mike Carlson)

Demaryius Thomas breaks a tackle follwing a reception in the ACC Championship game. (AP Photo/Mike Carlson)

Bay Bay a redshirted freshman at Georgia Tech debated leaving after just one season of playing time for the Yellowjackets when they switched head coaches and the new coach implemented  a triple option offense. An offense that is heavy on the run and often allows for receivers to either run or pass.

Okay, now you see where I’m going.

This isn’t offense as we know it, this is revolution. Oh what the future may bring and it’s only a matter of months before we get to find out. Either way it will be quite the ride, if you weren’t up for it, why’d you pay admission?

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  • Big_Pete

    I can see everyone's skepticism with 1st round receivers. Not only did we draft Ashley Lelie, but most people completely forget Marcus Nash being taken #30 in 1998. Nash was so forgettable, that unless someone brings up his name, nobody even remembers him on the team, let alone a 1st round pick.
    As for Tebow, a lot of people point to us “reaching” for him, saying that he would have been there in the 2nd round for us. People say that by Clausen still being there in the mid 2nd, and McCoy being there in the 3rd, that Tebow surely would have been there in the 3rd, if not 4th round… Me? I'm not so sure of that.
    I think we messed up a ton of draft boards by going back in the 1st to get Tebow. I think Buffalo would have gone back in the 1st to grab him. I think had he slipped to the 2nd round, you'd have had Buffalo, Minnesota, Cleveland, San Francisco, and possibly New England all fighting their way to the tip top of that round to get him. I think the reasons why Clausen and McCoy fell is because teams just flat out didn't like them. I don't think it had any bearing on where Tebow would have gone, or how high he was ranked.
    Lets face it, he is the most prolific QB in NCAA history. He has a passer rating 20 points higher than Peyton Manning in college. He has thrown for only 2 less TD's than Manning, while running in for a ton more. It doesn't stop at Manning, but the reason I bring him up is because Manning, when drafted, said something so simple, yet so profound, that it made me an instant “Manning believer” and it made him my favorite QB besides Elway….. Manning said this when asked “what is the first thing you're gonna do with all your new found money?” and what did Manning say? He said “I'm going to earn it.”…… WOW, now THAT'S a guy I want on my team!!! Never before him have we ever heard a player say that, and never since him have we heard a player say that, UNTIL TEBOW.
    You put Tebow's skills on our team to go with his desire to succeed, his passion for the game, and his willingness to learn and be a film junkie, and you will have a more athletic version of Manning, and that is someone I want to build my franchise around with. It is very easy to see why McDaniels moved back in the round to get him, and it's easy to see why just because Clausen was available mid 2nd, and McCoy 3rd round had zero bearing on Tebow getting picked.
    Tim Tebow, like Peyton Manning, stood on a platform all their own, and we are the lucky team to finally pick not Cutler's replacement, not Plummers replacement, but finally, a true Elway replacement!

  • jtmonie

    Well said

  • Big_Pete

    Also something that hasn't really been mentioned is that Pat Bowlen signed off on the Tebow pick. He signed off on trading for a 2nd first round pick. He signed off on McDaniels taking a QB that won't start opening day of this season.
    Because of this, McDaniels will have job security for at least the next few years. Hopefully we never have to question his job security, because that means that we're winning, but even if we don't win this year, McDaniels will come back next year, because he won't have lost with “his guy”, he would have lost with the stop gap QB, and because of that, he'll be given this year, and at least 2 more years.
    I just hope that it all turns aces for us and that we get back into the playoffs and super bowl.
    We'll field a team full of proud and talented players who will work hard and do whatever it takes to win. Nobody will want to play against us.

  • fredheadbill

    As a long time Gator fan I can say the Tebow effect will make, the Broncos Fans the happiest in the country.

  • Jen

    There's a big difference between the NCAA and NFL.
    The chances of Tebow doing much is way beyond my comprehension right now, despite what McDaniels might suggest.
    Far from it being a good pick, when Mc Daniels is gone (that might not be long either if we get another disaaapointing season finish like the last) I don't see amother coach wanting to train a college QB with bad mechanics and even less downfield vision than Jason Cambell had.

  • Jen

    There's a big difference between the NCAA and NFL.
    The chances of Tebow doing much is way beyond my comprehension right now, despite what McDaniels might suggest.
    Far from it being a good pick, when Mc Daniels is gone (that might not be long either if we get another disaaapointing season finish like the last) I don't see amother coach wanting to train a college QB with bad mechanics and even less downfield vision than Jason Cambell had.

  • Jen

    Oh and it's no good our head coach having “job security” unless he's getting us into the play-offs.
    I'm sure nobody wants us to finish each season like we did last year!

  • dogheadbrew

    There is no Elway replacement. He was one of a kind. But we don't need Elway to win championships. Tebow could be the guy, hell Quinn could be the guy for all I know, but we NEED to stop looking for Elway 2.0. It's not going to happen and we are only hurting ourselves and our QBs with that thought. We need to be looking for Superbowl Trophy 3 instead.

  • http://broncoszone.blogspot.com/ Jon

    Never seen Ashley Lelie spelled like that before! lol

  • Big_Pete

    Jen, nobody wants us to finish the season like we have the last 10 years!
    McDaniels will be here for I'd guess 3 years if he isn't winning. He'll get this year to work up Tebow, and next year to see what the kid has on the field, and then the year after that will be the “show me” year.
    I am hopeful that we win. Hell, nothing would please me more than to have Orton, or Quinn, or Tebow win the superbowl this year. If any of our 3 QB's lead us to the promised land, then it really doesn't matter who we took at pick #25, does it? If we win the superbowl, it really doesn't matter that you, or kerry hates McDaniels, does it? Is taking Tebow any more of a gamble than the “sure fire, can't miss” pick of Ryan Leaf? He was taken #2 overall and the Chargers were applauded by everyone. How did that turn out? At least we know that Tebow will be a stand up guy, will bust his ass to be a great QB, and will never be a locker room cancer or a troubled player…. or maybe you'd rather us take Ryan Leaf 2.0 high in the draft if such a player ever comes out.

  • susanm72566

    I'm a HUGE Gator fan and even love TEBOW even more. Ya'll are lucky to have him. He has been told his whole life he wouldn't be a successfull football player at all levels. He has done what he has been told and succeeded not only on the field, but off. I believe he's only lost two football games in his entire career. NOW, having said that, I'm very aware that the NFL is set up so that NO team will win every game they play over the next 4 to 8 years, BUT, I can assure you….you won't be able to help but fall in love with a guy who will give you all he has and he will do it with more grace, determination and hard work than any player you've EVER had on your team. Having said all that….I'm a die hard Charger fan, who has already ordered my DENVER TEBOW #15 Jersey. NOW, what does that tell you about the guy you have on your team. DENVER has acquired arguably the most LIKABLE guy ever to play the game. GOOD LUCK TEBOW….I love your character, abilities and relentless determination to not prove your critics wrong, but to prove to yourself that you are as great as GOD intended for you to be. You are a breath of freshair to the game that so desperately needs players that are great icons on and off the field. If the DENVER fans could have an ounce of faith in you that you have in them, you would be match made in heaven. Sit back and enjoy the ride DENVER fans. You have no idea how lucky you are.

  • inrodwetrust

    Honestly right now I even feel lucky to have a coach with as much vision and passion as the one we have right now. Not only did he grab the QB he wanted most, he brought in more Oline protection and big targets for Tebow to have every chance to succeed with. I feel like Brian Xanders is not getting enough credit for his work in the war room either. He has done an amazing job with all the value and trades.

  • Fan From Spain

    Broncos draft CB Parrish Cox

    and this guy is a stud! gr8 pick

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma_n9K3stn8

  • Chuckd25

    I don't get how a lot of critics are saying you dont take a QB in the first round if you're not going to play him right away. And please dont tell me how there is a risk he'll never turn out to be a good QB because every guy you draft is a risk. (Please insert very long list of sure fire can't miss first round picks, Esp QB's)

    1st, Tebow was a late first rounder and we all could list a ton of late first round QB's who didnt start at QB for at least a year.

    2nd, Tebow is going to play right away. No, he's not going to be the every down QB but he'll be getting 5-10 plays a game doing “what ever the team asks him to do”. How many times last year did we kick a field goal or end a drive cause we got stuffed on 3rd & short. Tebow, Zane Beadles, J.D. Walton & even Demaryius Thomas (Good blocking WR) are all going to help that. Then throw in D. Grahm & Quinn who is an excelent blocker and then it's Tebow against a CBsaftey. Watch the highlight of Tebow vs the Fl State saftey and you'll see how that turns out.

  • Big_Pete

    yeah, Cox is a phenomenal talent, and could have gone in 1st or high 2nd round had he not been suspended. I see this draft as being McDaniels version of Shanahan's 2006 draft. We just restocked the cupboard for the next decade. (unless McD loses job and new coach trades them all away. lol)

  • ocbronco

    Ashlie Lelie was good, could have been great? I stopped reading after that.

  • beastrules

    nothing against the tebow pick,just hate they didn't just pick him at 24 .They second guessed thier selves and regreted that they didn't pull the trigger and it cost us too many picks that would have really helped us on the defensive side of the ball.He will truly help in the wildhorse early on.Now that Josh McD has got this out of his system then maybe he can draft like his old boss and wheel and deal the proper way and let the board come to u and not reach in the future.He drafts needs for sure and bpa went out the door,but thats understandable with all the turnover though.GO BRONCOS!

  • oldcoachB

    I to am worried about ILB, but we did create an excellent 6 man DL rotation in front of the LBs Hopefully that will protect them to make plays. All I know is we drafted intellegent guys; did you see those W/test score. My company uses those test any scores in the 30's is considered excellent and we just drafted 2 guys who scored in the 40's.

  • ocbronco

    Of course Bowlen signed off on the pick, he let's his Coach and GM do their jobs. Always has. Even when it's to the detriment of the club.

    Contrary to popular belief, Josh McDaniel's job is no where near being in jeopardy. When you are allowed to ship Cutler and Marshall out of town your owner is giving you a very long leash. And that is also Bowlen's M.O. He isn't changing that after disposing of his HOF Coach.

  • karen

    Tebow will make a believer out of the worst of skeptics. His amazing character and leadership is worth millions to begin with! He is determined to listen, observe, learn and do as instructed. He's got the bulk, the stamina, and mega massive determination. He will make you proud to be a Bronco fan!

  • http://nation.theorangepage.com/blog Ian Henson

    Haha, sorry, spell check and that many updates in one day did me in =(

  • http://nation.theorangepage.com/blog Ian Henson

    Jake Plummer can credit a lot of his success to Ashley Lelie, he's still one of the only players that I've ever seen bend completely backwards to catch a pass. As a Bronco he had seasons of:

    2003- 37 REC 628 YDs, 2004- 54 REC. 1084 YDs* & 2005-42 REC. 770 YDs. * = Jake Plummer Pro Bowl year.

    That's nothing bad at all, I'd take those stats from any second or third year player on Denver's roster.

  • Badmamajama

    Too bad we can't draft coaches in liue of players from time to time. What is upsetting to me is that we already had a good QB and WR before McDumb-Dumb got into a pissing match with them and bought them both a one-way ticket out of town. During the B-Marsh trade interview McDumb-Dumb stated that he is looking for players to match the team he is trying to establish. But in order to have a good team, you have to have top quality players who trust and respect you as a leader to make that solid team you're invisioning. What McDumb-Dumb wants is a group of guys to think and behave the way he thinks they ought to. He has no concept of what makes up a team in the first place. You can have a million players that are A-1 type players, but if you don't set the tone of embracing openness, respect, trust and diversity in your team, then you are just the Oakland Raiders in a different uniform. Winning starts with leadership ability, not with young guys needing to be molded into someone else's way of thinking. Until McDumb-Dumb learns to embrace different personality styles and grasps the concept of valuablity of such players, then no one on that team stands a chance. I am personally sad for Tebow having to work under a man who does not welcome or honor diversity and doesn't know what it takes to be a team. There are so many other coaches out there who could and would make Tebow a star in this league. A guy like Tebow would be better off learning the game from alomost any other coach in league then McDumb-McDumb. The reason I dstill don't have hope for the Broncos again this year is not because of the team, but because of McDumb-Dumb's style and poor coaching. He will never be Shanny because he can't get out of his own way long enough to learn what leadership is all about and the benefits of having diversity on his team. He will learn the hard way that in order to be a great coach, you must recognize your own faults and limitations before trying to lead someone else to victory. It starts with YOU coach, not with your players. When someone finally teaches McDumb-Dumb the ropes of coaching in the NFL, then young players can come in and do what they are getting paid to do. But until then, we will be a average team at best.

  • ocbronco

    Love that. Hard work and intelligence will benefit us if these guys have the talent.

    And you're right, not worried about ILB. Haggan will be great there!

  • ftball0129

    I think it is time for one or two defiant doubters on this board, that you should look at the glass as “half full” instead of “half empty”. It appears McD IS looking into the future, and trying to draft players that are intelligent, creative and leaders. The Broncos' selections were very progressive…and will make you extremely competitive this year and years to come.

  • cant_spell_for_real

    wow mcdumb dumb funny whats realy funny. is a qb that crys when a coach looks to bring in a player or even explores the option of trading the qb dumb or funny or both. cutler cried his way out of denver mcdainels didnt push cutler out. now as far as marshall goes next time he gets in trouble the commish is going to lay the law down hard on him 1/2 a season to a full season and with the money marshall got from the dolphins i wouldn't risk it especial since he will be at home tempted to put his arm thru another tv or something. Marshall was out when mcd came in yes but it was because of mcd it was because of the contract and shooting. lets thank the labor talks for breaking down so we got something in return. now as far as scheffler goes i have no clue maybe that was mcd not liking the guy. hillis on the other hand is way over rated by the fans and i happen to be one of thouse fans that love him but honestly look at his stats he got hurt 2 years ago and came in to a new sceam last year maybe he didnt catch on or adjust to it as well as he could. thankfuly mcdaniels plan for better or worse will play out on the field and all tho this rant seems like a mcdaniels fan war cry.which im realy nutral on him i think nolan made us a good team at the start of the season not mcd but i see some of the reasons behind the moves he makes. this also proves i have piss poor grammer and crappy spelling. but deep within that rant is truth. not un upset person that cant see shanny was done and we needed change 9 years is a long time to go with out getting out of the 1st rd in the playoffs or even getting to the playoffs.

  • jen

    In my view Clausen would have been a better pick if we even really really needed a QB.
    I'm not a Tebow-hater, but for all his status on the NCAA field, he showed that he runs from the pocket under pressure and doesn't stand his ground, which will cost valuable points in the NFL. His “wind up” is readable, he has a bad habit of locking on to one target and doesn't deviate, and his downfield vision is bad.
    I'm not a McDaniels hater either (far from it) I'm only interested in seeing one thing, and that's the Bronco's in the Superbowl. If Josh can't do it for us, then we need someone else. Period. Not only that but we don't need to give him 3 or 4 years before we say enough is enough.
    No play-offs should = no job.

    To the person that said Tebow would fit in because we played the same kind of game as Florida? Listen, playing 60 year old football and hoping it'll work in todays game is crazy. Picking Tebow because that's the kind of game they played in Florida? Crazy again. Let's remember a couple of things-
    1) that we lost so many after being on the winning roll last season, and
    2) that Tebow may as well not have even showed up in the Florida game against Alabama, in which Florida got steamrollered.

    Picking a QB that needs so much work to get him anywhere near right for the NFL game is pointless.
    Carolina had the right idea, and got a decent prospect at a lower cost. To me, Tebow is definately way over-rated, and Mc Daniels showed a lot of immaturity in rushing in to pick him.
    I don't care how many of you Florida-fan-Tebow-lovers there are out there, it was a disappointing pick for me and a lot of other people. Clausen would have done the job with less training.

  • jen

    Yeah susanm72566, your opening sentence said it all didn;t it? You're a gator fan and a tebow lover.
    Not sure how you would even be able to offer an unbiased opinion.
    Besides that you're a charger fan- you should know by now how much us Bronco's fans hate the Chargers.
    We don't care about likeability factors, or christian gushings because someone wants to “spread the word”, that kind of stuff is for off the field, not on it.
    We care about what the guy can do for us, and right now I'm not convinced or happy about the pick. Quite honestly I'd have been happy for the Chargers to take him and for us to have picked Clausen.

    PS – I for one am kind of glad that the Alabama tide did the gators last season too.

  • jen

    Pete,
    As I said in a newer post, I don't hate McDaniels, and I don't necessarily doubt his ability (…yet) but I am concerned as to his picks in the draft. All that I'm concerned about is the Bronco's making the superbowl, not too much to expect as a fan is it? Heck last season we actually end up not even making the playoffs after what was an amazing start? That was an almost mathematical impossibility given just the law of averages to work with… but it happened. Who do you blame? The players? Maybe to a large extent. The Head Coach? Almost certainly. The buck stops with him.
    Something went desperately wrong, especially when teams like the Buccaneers can beat us when they hardly won a game the whole season!
    There I was thinking it was going to be us and the Saints that would be unbeaten, and instead we end up with…. well a big fat zero.

    My point was only this- Clausen would have done the job and probably needed less time spent to do it.
    Whether Tebow matures enough as a QB to play NFL in the next 2 years is really going to be of very little consequence this season if we can't stop the other tam scoring points against us.

  • Big_Pete

    I hear you. Super bowls are the only thing on my mind when it comes to this team.
    Look, we shored up our DL with free agent signing before the draft, so it wasn't the “glaring need” that most wanted it to be.
    We drafted a new Brandon Marshall, just without any character or maturity issues. I would trade Marshall for Thomas straight up because of the character issues. Less we forget that he's been in the NFL for 4 years, and he was suspended from the 1st game 2 times, and he was too busy pouting last years 1st game, and benched for the last. So really, besides his rookie year, this jackass has missed games because of his attitude/maturity. And lets not forget that he gets teammates killed (literally) because of his attitude.
    Tebow may very well take 2-3 years to develop into a starting NFL QB, but so will Bradford, Clausen, and McCoy. The only NFL Rookie QB who ever did anything their rookie year was Dan Marino. Roethlesberger, Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez were all single digit attempt per game throwers. When asked to throw more than 10-15 times per game, they lost almost every single time. The only reason why their teams did decent/good is because of a dominant running game, and very solid defense. The QB position was a non-factor. So because of this, all 4 rookie QB's in this year's draft will take 2-3 years to develop, so why is Tebow the only one getting hammered because of that?
    Also, McDaniels will get 3+ years more with this team because of Tebow. Bowlen knows he won't start this year, so that's 1 year that is given to McD. Bowlen knows that Tebow might start next year, and if he does, that'll be a semi-struggle, cause all 1st year starting QB's struggle out of the gate, so that's year 2 that McD has. Then the next year will be when Bowlen says “ok, show me what you got.” So that's 3 years. Get use to seeing McDaniels on the sideline. I think because of our 6-0 start, we should have hope. Shanahan had 3 straight years of “late season meltdown to miss the playoffs”…. so the same thing happening with McDaniels shouldn't be too much of a surprise.
    Because of that, I do not blame the coach, I blame the players. Maybe the players packed it in and wanted to hit cruise control for the 2nd half of the season. It happened 4 straight years. McDaniels I guarantee recognized this, and started jettisoning player that he saw packing it in (Cutler, Marshall, Scheffler) to name a few. With a new attitude in the locker room, and team first, we will win at all cost players, the sky is the limit, and the late season meltdowns hopefully come to an end. The coach can only motivate so much. These are grown men, not little kids. Motivational speeches only happen in the movies, they don't happen in real life.
    I love our draft, and I love our team. I honestly think that Tebow will help tremendously his rookie year as a wildcat/wildhorses threat. I see us in the playoffs this year. I see Orton being better than last year, which means more playbook for him, and that means bigger plays because he won't be reigned in so much.
    Broncos will be in playoffs this year!

  • susanm72566

    jen…..oh jen…..”roll jen roll”…..OUCH!!!! I guess you got me on the
    Tide wining the national champoinship last year. I gues we now know your
    real issue….Your still bitter that Tebow and the Gators CHOMPED on the
    Tide for so long. I know it hurts, but I assure you, you'll feel better
    soon. BUT then again….I don't know if you will, I mean when has the Tide
    won TWO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS and had a He”15″sman winner. Oh that's
    right….NEVER!

    I also understand your bitterness towards the Charger's right now….I mean
    after all, they have ruined your playoff chances for the last 5 years. So I
    can understand your bitterness. But surely what will probably happen is
    McDaniels will get fired in two years….Tebow will then be traded to a
    worthy team and the broncos will still be in dire straits.

    GOD BLESS!

  • Big_Pete

    My gut tells me that Clausen will be somewhere between Ryan Leaf and Jeff George.
    He has pretty good skills, but he has a piss poor attitude, personality, and work ethic.
    I would rather have Tebow wash out of the league as a bust than have Clausen on our team. Why? Because Tebow wont destroy our team the way Clausen would.

  • FredHeadBill

    9286 yards passing 88 TDs 2947 yards passing 57 TDs

  • FredHeadBill

    Tebow's stats
    9286 yards passing 88 TDs 2947 yards rushing 57 TDs

  • jen

    Hey susan,

    You're way off the mark girl.
    I said I was “kinda glad”, not that I was extatic. To be perfectly honest I don't care for either the Alabama tide or the Florida gators, I just got kind of tired of listening to the hype (from people like you and the media) that the gators always got. So it amused me after hearing everyone say that the gators would win it again, that they got crushed.

    You're the one posting a pro Tebow message on a Bronco's board while admitting to being not only a florida fan, but a Ttebow lover and a chargers fan too. ;)
    My comment was suggesting that you couldn't offer an unbiased view being what you are, and I stand by that.
    I commented using personal opinion about a player that I think was a costly draft pick. Now if Mr McD gets Timmy to prove me wrong and we get to the superbowl because of him, then I'll be jumping for joy… 'cept I don't he will.

    We'll see how many of you gators fans stop following them if they stop winning now that your boy T-bone has come to Denver ;) Guess you'll all be wearing a different shirt this season huh?

    As for the Bronco's being in dire straits? lol I don't think so.
    I think that's more likely to be a problem for the Chargers in the future, that's assuming they'll even exist in San Diego after another couple of years. :D

    Tebow will find that there's only one god in Denver, and that's Mr Elway.

    ~peace out~

  • jen

    I'd go along with the whole maturity thing. Getting rid of people that couldn't cut it because of attitude is fine with me. Did Cutler jump ship? Yes, I think he did. He was happy to go to Chicago.
    I don't know that Cutler “packed it in” necesaarily, I just think he was still a bit immature and needs to grow up into a leader. He could be a great QB if he could overcome the interceptions and work under pressure a bit better.
    I was actually kind of happy to see him leave after it had happened. His end zone conversions were poor compared to Orton, and it's no good having a big throw if you don't haver what it takes to throw the touchdown in the end zone once you get the ball into it. I wasn't exactly happy at what he said about the Bronco fans considering how much slack we all cut him for all the game costing interceptions he threw under pressure, either!

    I still think that Clausen will develop into a better NFL QB faster then Tebow will, but we'll have to see. I see him as a little immature too, and maybe a bit susceptable to pressure, if he can grow up, he'll be good.

    I think Orton will do better this year too, I thought he did well last season considering… come on, it must have been a shock and a bit of a luxury to him, after coming from the bears where he got hardly any time to throw.

    Will we make the play-offs this year? Yes I actually think so too, (hey what do I know anyway) but McD has to get the guys motivated and keep them there tp make sure they keep running at a hundred percent even if we're 6 and 0 again!

    Go Bronco's!!!!

  • Cris

    Jen, are you Mel Kiper's clone? He is also very high on Clausen and was always bashing Tebow. What Clausen did in college? And for Tebow? He just won two championships and a heisman and your still thinking that he is not worthy of being drafted 25th at the first round. Come on, give the kid some chance to succeed. If you are a Denver Bronco's fan, support them.. I can assure you that you will not regret having Tebow on your team because he is someone who will always play hard and never take a play off, someone who hates losing, someone who always refuse to lose and always give your team a chance to win.

  • vikvonn

    yeah, your right. Shannahan was a great coach, despite having full control and 1 playoff win in 10 years. Teams with no discipline are so fun to watch. Good luck Redskins, your disfunctional franchise is a good fit for an over-rated head coach. After all, every player you have is over-rated as well.

  • vikvonn

    Dear Shannahan and Cutler fans, Stop Crying!! The last 10 years of your undisciplined style of football produced a whopping 1 playoff win. ONE!! Get over yourselves, Elway retired long ago. And with it, Shannahans dubious distinction as a top level coach. Why else would he go coach the Redskins? They love to over pay over rated over the hill talent.

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  • Maggie

    First of all, let's get it straight. The Broncos do have more talent then the Skins this year, but which team has a better winning record so far? Thought so! That is all Shannahan my man! Ever since McDumb-Dumb took over as head coach, he has washed out Cutler, Marshall, Hillis, Scheffler, Bly, Weigman, oh, should I continue? There are more players than that! Keep in mind that in Shanny's last season with Denver, we went 8-8 with 24 players out with injuries over the course of the season. Where did McDumb-Dumb take us last year? A powerful 8-8 record with his brilliant little plans! This year, we have won only 2 games and got beat by the Raiders at home in a 59-14 loss. Did that ever happen under Shanny? Hell no it didn't. So before you keep playing in McDumb-Dumbs short ones, you better start looking at some hard facts before falling in love too hard with a guy who will never be a great head coach! McDumb-Dumb will never have the skills that Shanny has, nor will he ever be a great leader. Why? Because he is too stuck on himself and “his system” versus the strengths of the actual players. Any real leader knows that you must acknowledge the strengths of your team and build around your team, not build a system and expect everyone to folow suit. Who does that and is successful at doing that? I invite you to produced some hard facts, over your weak argument and prove me wrong. And by the way, no we didn't do well in the postseason under Shanny over the past 10 years. But keep in mind, he was still able to waltz right in a take us to 2 superbowls and win them with ease under his leadership. What other coach has been able to do that with a team that lost 4 bowl games before? Do you honestly think McDumb-Dumb is going to do that for us? Put down that crack pipe and wake up dude, it's only getting worse from here on out.

  • Maggie

    Hillis is running over fools in Cleavland! You don't think that was a mistake either? What's wrong with these people on this board? Have you guys lost all sight of what is happening in Denver? Or is everybody dumb to begin with?

  • Maggie

    Tell me again what McDumb-Dumb has done for Denver in his replacement of Shannahan? I agree that Shannahan lost his edge after winning the back-to-back bowl games, but do you really think that his replacement has done ANYTHING worth mentioning on this board? Don't think so bro! All I am saying is that Shanny should have left maybe 5 years ago and not when he is was actually fired. He was still able to win games with a new and inexperienced team better than just about anyone in the league. However, yes, his days here were numbered. But don't kid yourself or anybody else about McDum-Dumb being a better replacement, because that's simply stupid! We need Cower or Billick to come in and turn things around. McDumb-Dumb doesn't have the skills to get 'er done!

  • Maggie

    The Skins have 4 wins with hardly any talent and a shitty QB. We have a measly 2 wins and a HUGE loss at home against the Raiders. Wow, this new system is really working in Denver isn't boy?

  • Maggie

    Are you sure about us making the playoffs this year? McDumb-Dumb is not a team first kind of guy. He is a my way or the highway kind of guy and that evidenced by his new roster. Take a look at the great players that are playing for other teams and what we ended up with as a result of McDumb's-Dumbs new system. 2-5 as of today, and it's only going down hill from here, with Orton getting stomped in the pocket and Tebow doing his predictable wild-crap! It's just not working here in D-Town folks! But I said that 6 months ago and no one wanted to come to grips with it.

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