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	<title>Comments on: McNuggets: The Raider Monday aftermath</title>
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		<title>By: GrinandTell</title>
		<link>http://broncotalk.net/2009/12/13009/broncos-buzz/five-questions-interviews/mcnuggets-the-raider-monday-aftermath/comment-page-1/#comment-50675</link>
		<dc:creator>GrinandTell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have to hear McD say, &quot;Its not my fault&quot; to sense that he&#039;s still being defensive and willfully deflecting blame (while sounding, or rather, play-calling as egotistically as ever).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McD knows how to talk, but hearing him excuse not passing the ball INTO the end-zone more against the Raiders is a tip-off (if you know how to read between the lines).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, the Raiders are quick and have a lot of talent in their back seven.  But we have guys like B-Marsh and Graham that can run five-yard patterns and box-out the defenders by turning their backs and either heading to the end-zone corner or starting that way and crossing over the middle.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Both are good at catching tight passes in traffic, yet we rarely if ever see McD allowing Orton the green-light to make those throws in our now-inevitable end-zone stalls.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, to toady up to the coach by stating there&#039;s no evidence of his ego is plain nonsense.  Unless your standard is seeing his nose grow or his head inflate to three-times its normal circumference in the post-game presser, all you need do is ask what&#039;s missing from his play-calls (and observe how the same conservatism that helped us when the offenses were getting acclimated to the faster-starting defenses is still shackling the passing that we need to keep red-zone defenses honest).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t have to hear McD say, &#8220;Its not my fault&#8221; to sense that he&#39;s still being defensive and willfully deflecting blame (while sounding, or rather, play-calling as egotistically as ever).</p>
<p>McD knows how to talk, but hearing him excuse not passing the ball INTO the end-zone more against the Raiders is a tip-off (if you know how to read between the lines).</p>
<p>Yes, the Raiders are quick and have a lot of talent in their back seven.  But we have guys like B-Marsh and Graham that can run five-yard patterns and box-out the defenders by turning their backs and either heading to the end-zone corner or starting that way and crossing over the middle.</p>
<p>Both are good at catching tight passes in traffic, yet we rarely if ever see McD allowing Orton the green-light to make those throws in our now-inevitable end-zone stalls.</p>
<p>So, to toady up to the coach by stating there&#39;s no evidence of his ego is plain nonsense.  Unless your standard is seeing his nose grow or his head inflate to three-times its normal circumference in the post-game presser, all you need do is ask what&#39;s missing from his play-calls (and observe how the same conservatism that helped us when the offenses were getting acclimated to the faster-starting defenses is still shackling the passing that we need to keep red-zone defenses honest).</p>
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		<title>By: TheTroglodyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTroglodyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like not using Hillis as much as anyone but you have no idea any more than anyone else why he is not being used. To label it an &quot;ego&quot; problem proves exactly that. It&#039;s an absurd and arbitrary statement people throw around when they don&#039;t like something about McD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t like not using Hillis as much as anyone but you have no idea any more than anyone else why he is not being used. To label it an &#8220;ego&#8221; problem proves exactly that. It&#39;s an absurd and arbitrary statement people throw around when they don&#39;t like something about McD.</p>
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		<title>By: GrinandTell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrinandTell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have to hear McD say, &quot;Its not my fault&quot; to sense that he&#039;s still being defensive and willfully deflecting blame (while sounding, or rather, play-calling as egotistically as ever).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McD knows how to talk, but hearing him excuse not passing the ball INTO the end-zone more against the Raiders is a tip-off (if you know how to read between the lines).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, the Raiders are quick and have a lot of talent in their back seven.  But we have guys like B-Marsh and Graham that can run five-yard patterns and box-out the defenders by turning their backs and either heading to the end-zone corner or starting that way and crossing over the middle.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Both are good at catching tight passes in traffic, yet we rarely if ever see McD allowing Orton the green-light to make those throws in our now-inevitable end-zone stalls.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, to toady up to the coach by stating there&#039;s no evidence of his ego is plain nonsense.  Unless your standard is seeing his nose grow or his head inflate to three-times its normal circumference in the post-game presser, all you need do is ask what&#039;s missing from his play-calls (and observe how the same conservatism that helped us when the offenses were getting acclimated to the faster-starting defenses is still shackling the passing that we need to keep red-zone defenses honest).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t have to hear McD say, &#8220;Its not my fault&#8221; to sense that he&#39;s still being defensive and willfully deflecting blame (while sounding, or rather, play-calling as egotistically as ever).</p>
<p>McD knows how to talk, but hearing him excuse not passing the ball INTO the end-zone more against the Raiders is a tip-off (if you know how to read between the lines).</p>
<p>Yes, the Raiders are quick and have a lot of talent in their back seven.  But we have guys like B-Marsh and Graham that can run five-yard patterns and box-out the defenders by turning their backs and either heading to the end-zone corner or starting that way and crossing over the middle.</p>
<p>Both are good at catching tight passes in traffic, yet we rarely if ever see McD allowing Orton the green-light to make those throws in our now-inevitable end-zone stalls.</p>
<p>So, to toady up to the coach by stating there&#39;s no evidence of his ego is plain nonsense.  Unless your standard is seeing his nose grow or his head inflate to three-times its normal circumference in the post-game presser, all you need do is ask what&#39;s missing from his play-calls (and observe how the same conservatism that helped us when the offenses were getting acclimated to the faster-starting defenses is still shackling the passing that we need to keep red-zone defenses honest).</p>
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		<title>By: TheTroglodyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTroglodyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like not using Hillis as much as anyone but you have no idea any more than anyone else why he is not being used. To label it an &quot;ego&quot; problem proves exactly that. It&#039;s an absurd and arbitrary statement people throw around when they don&#039;t like something about McD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t like not using Hillis as much as anyone but you have no idea any more than anyone else why he is not being used. To label it an &#8220;ego&#8221; problem proves exactly that. It&#39;s an absurd and arbitrary statement people throw around when they don&#39;t like something about McD.</p>
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		<title>By: kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cant get Jake Locker. he is going back to Washington for another year. so we would have to draft Jimmy Clausen or Colt McCoy. McCoy actaully would be decent considering he has a good arm and mobility. maybe Tony Pike also. just not Orton next year. if anything give Brandstater a chance. he cant be worse then Orton but maybe better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cant get Jake Locker. he is going back to Washington for another year. so we would have to draft Jimmy Clausen or Colt McCoy. McCoy actaully would be decent considering he has a good arm and mobility. maybe Tony Pike also. just not Orton next year. if anything give Brandstater a chance. he cant be worse then Orton but maybe better.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about not using Hillis on short yardage! Thats an ego problem. Since when is a 6th round pich held to a higher standard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about not using Hillis on short yardage! Thats an ego problem. Since when is a 6th round pich held to a higher standard</p>
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		<title>By: mangeletti</title>
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		<dc:creator>mangeletti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually think Orton is playing fine. Probably half the quarterbacks in the league are worse than him and the other half are better.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I see is the receivers need to run routes that have a higher percentage of being completed. In other words, don&#039;t make that such a difficult ball to catch. Case in point, that missed TD pass to Scheffler where he has to catch it over the DB and over his shoulder, he missed it. Why not throw that pass to the near pylon? You know that pass that you ran on the playground all the time as a kid, run 6 yards, chuck the guy then turn to the pylon for a high percentage catch. Why don&#039;t we do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think Orton is playing fine. Probably half the quarterbacks in the league are worse than him and the other half are better.</p>
<p>What I see is the receivers need to run routes that have a higher percentage of being completed. In other words, don&#39;t make that such a difficult ball to catch. Case in point, that missed TD pass to Scheffler where he has to catch it over the DB and over his shoulder, he missed it. Why not throw that pass to the near pylon? You know that pass that you ran on the playground all the time as a kid, run 6 yards, chuck the guy then turn to the pylon for a high percentage catch. Why don&#39;t we do that?</p>
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		<title>By: anthony33</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with kerry here... Orton, while not a slug by any means, is not the long term answer or even the mid-term answer.  We need to get a QB in the draft, preferably Locker (one of the few that remind me of you know who).&lt;br&gt;To get Locker you are obviously going to have to move up from the probable 8-10 spot to one of the first 3.  Trade the 8-10 and Marshall to get there.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe Brandstater is the answer, but who the hell knows.  If he still inactive after the fiasco called Simms played, then I would guess he is not the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with kerry here&#8230; Orton, while not a slug by any means, is not the long term answer or even the mid-term answer.  We need to get a QB in the draft, preferably Locker (one of the few that remind me of you know who).<br />To get Locker you are obviously going to have to move up from the probable 8-10 spot to one of the first 3.  Trade the 8-10 and Marshall to get there.  </p>
<p>Maybe Brandstater is the answer, but who the hell knows.  If he still inactive after the fiasco called Simms played, then I would guess he is not the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jestep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jestep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broncos have some very talented players, but when the play-calling prevents them from doing anything or attempting a field goal more than 50 yards, they going to lose every time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Almost every set was, run up the middle, pass backwards to the left, run up the middle again, repeat...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When Orton was allowed to throw down-field, we got first downs and generally ripped apart the defense. This game was like watching internal sabotage. 3-2 on their own 20, QB sneak, good idea....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A 5 year old with a NFL madden game could call better plays than this... Ugh, just painful to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broncos have some very talented players, but when the play-calling prevents them from doing anything or attempting a field goal more than 50 yards, they going to lose every time.</p>
<p>Almost every set was, run up the middle, pass backwards to the left, run up the middle again, repeat&#8230;</p>
<p>When Orton was allowed to throw down-field, we got first downs and generally ripped apart the defense. This game was like watching internal sabotage. 3-2 on their own 20, QB sneak, good idea&#8230;.</p>
<p>A 5 year old with a NFL madden game could call better plays than this&#8230; Ugh, just painful to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orotn isnt a good QB. he never has been and never will be. there are QB&#039;s who can actually make plays and improvise if the O-line and running game arent playing up to par. Orton isnt one of those QB&#039;s. i sure dont want cutler back, but with him we at least had a chance to extend the play or scramble for those yards that we needed. Orton just stands there and if his first read isnt open he throws it away or eats the ball. this guy doesnt even attempt to go in another direction. thats why Royal and Stokley and Scheffler never get involved because Orton never can make a second read. blame the O-line and running game all you want, but Orton isnt anything special and certainly isnt a playmaker at the QB position. hell even Jake Plummer could extend a play or scramble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orotn isnt a good QB. he never has been and never will be. there are QB&#39;s who can actually make plays and improvise if the O-line and running game arent playing up to par. Orton isnt one of those QB&#39;s. i sure dont want cutler back, but with him we at least had a chance to extend the play or scramble for those yards that we needed. Orton just stands there and if his first read isnt open he throws it away or eats the ball. this guy doesnt even attempt to go in another direction. thats why Royal and Stokley and Scheffler never get involved because Orton never can make a second read. blame the O-line and running game all you want, but Orton isnt anything special and certainly isnt a playmaker at the QB position. hell even Jake Plummer could extend a play or scramble.</p>
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