No matter how you view it, that is just bad team management. Even if you want to move Marshall, Culter, or Picks, as least get value. We are a joke of a franchise at this point.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d810e05b6/Denver-moving-Marshall

the big money contract is not going to happen here . . . .

just one call to Cutler and all the fog cleared in the cockpit . . . .

I was a Shanahan fan until I watched a season were defense took blame for everything. But who was truly to blame? The scheme changed every week telling the players they could not perform, and the message Shanahan sent was play better defense this week, sit the bench and watch as we put back in the players that performed poorly the week before! All of this built off the last couple of years: Pay more money to offensive players, but cut the people on the defensive line (Bertrand Berry, Trevor Pryce etc.) because it is obviously the fault of the secondary.

A good leader delegates, but Bowlen gave all power to one man and made the mistake of telling him no matter what your performance you will always be here. When he saw the writing on the wall, he swallowed his pride and fired his friend. Brandon is just another example of what Bowlen saw. Too many chiefs and no indians!

Shanahan was willing to look at every person with history of injury. Was willing to take chances on a star cornerback with bad character a few years ago, draft a running back with bad character a couple years ago. Draft a defensive tackle with character issues.( Ironically Marcus Thomas may be the only one of this group given a second chance that is trying to take advantage of it) Shanahan repeatedly has stuck up for Brandon, but i have to ask the question. When everyone is pointing fingers his way, can they all be wrong? He watched how Jay acted and I think he paid some attention. Jay did not return Bowlens call and was traded without actually getting anymore money. Brandon is looking for more money so he went to Bowlen trying to set himself in a better light, because his history shows he can’t stay in a good light long, and if his injury is far worse than Denver’s doctors say than he is I think he is a fool to believe that anyone will break the bank to pay him more now. His injury is either an excuse or he has deluded himself into thinking he is still worth more because of who he is and not for what he can do for a team.

I am trying to read between the lines on Josh. I like the philosophy i am seeing. Look at character and look for talent that may have been hidden by poor motivation and scheme.

A body builder may look impressive, but does not have the flexibilty to be an all around athlete. Fans say offense perfect gain lots of yards Josh say they did not score enough fans say defense bad gave too many yards Josh say did not get enough turnovers see so easy a caveman could do it!

I mean come on, how much of a phoney does this guy look like now? All that BS about the team and being a leader, and confidence in Coach McDaniels after Cuntler was traded? Give me a break, can we trade him to Buffalo for Lee Evans? That way both TO and his illegitimate son BABY TO can cause a black hole via their egos and be sucked into the abyss they’ve created. Honestly, if this guy doesn’t want to be a Bronco, get the f**k out of here, just make him suffer as much as possible. Is it the Broncos fault he likes to beat women so that’s why they are afraid to extend him? Let’s remember how much of a jerk this guy is, who started the shit at the New Year’s party that spelled the unfortunate death of D-Will? I love the way he plays the game, but if he showed up to take my daughter to the prom I’d tell him to get the f**k off my property. He’s a piece of shit human being who thinks because he can run fast and catch a ball (sometimes) that he should be rewarded. I’m sick off this and don’t let me get started on Donte Stallworth, 30 days in jail for DUI vehicular manslaughter. The double standard for pro athletes has become such a joke. Why do they deserve privilege? They don’t contribute anything of relevance to society, but we should excuse their felonious behavior, the same behavior that would see anyone of here who posts immediately thrown into jail without question.

Screw Brandon Marshall, screw Plaxico for all of you who say to sign him (54+ unreported fines while on the Giants, I live in Jersey, they reported this last year). Give me players who want to be Broncos. I get it, McDaniels, and OBVIOUSLY Bowlen are re-making the image and culture of this team, wiping out the Shanahan past. It hurts. This season may hurt alot, I don’t know, but it takes time to re-build a team, and let’s be honest, if Marshall is traded, that’s what we are witness to, re-building.

LOL NICE! T-Money!

LOL, okay, let stop there..

There’s got to be a line in there somewhere. You took a VERY well respected franchise…fired the well known coach…brought in an in-experienced head coach…traded the franchise quarterback…undercut everything this franchise once stood for…and are now looking at one most rock bottom off seasons in NFL history. and it’s not even over. That’s something that winning wont fix.

Ian- I don’t want Plax. He’ll play this year and then it’s off to cell block C. I would rather get some defensive star and let him mold into the defense. However I feel that if we sit of BM he’ll play. Hold outs only lessen your trade value.