Comments on: The Real McCoy http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/ Denver Broncos Blog and News Source Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jcampb72 http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16023 jcampb72 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:53:55 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16023 maybe winborn too. maybe winborn too.

]]> By: jcampb72 http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16022 jcampb72 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:50:05 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16022 keep everyone on O, as far as running backs I would have torain, hillis, and bell, he played good the last game, probably our only bright spot in the whole game. Hopefully we pick a day 1 running back in the draft but that's wishful thinking. As far as D i would keep thomas, ek, larsen, and thats about it along with your 5 dee. keep everyone on O, as far as running backs I would have torain, hillis, and bell, he played good the last game, probably our only bright spot in the whole game. Hopefully we pick a day 1 running back in the draft but that’s wishful thinking. As far as D i would keep thomas, ek, larsen, and thats about it along with your 5 dee.

]]> By: dee http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16018 dee Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:08:36 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16018 *Notable Omission - Yes I realize I did not add in a runningback but under McD's system and in NE they did not need a dominant running back just a servicable one. I believe the TE is more of a need to make the offense go under McD's system. *Notable Omission – Yes I realize I did not add in a runningback but under McD’s system and in NE they did not need a dominant running back just a servicable one. I believe the TE is more of a need to make the offense go under McD’s system.

]]> By: dee http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16017 dee Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:06:27 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16017 I guess you can tell I'm getting annoyed at that the fact that there aren't any new topics being posted on the site so I'm creating my own...lol Ok so everyone agrees and the offense needs some fine tuning and the defense needs to be blown up..soooo who are the 5 guys on O and D than you would keep on the team .. (I know finding 5 guys on D is tough) ..but lets see if we can get to a consensus..I'll start here are my guys on O and D: Offense (5 guys pretty easy ... I'm hoping) 1.Cutler 2. Clady 3. Royal 4. BMarsh 5.Scheffler Now the defense 1. Champ Bailey 2. Dj Williams 3. Woodyard 4. Barrett 5. Dumervil (I'm not sure whether DOOM can thrive in the 3-4 but he is still our most effective pass rusher so he gets the nod at 5. ) Ok guys let me know you're thoughs ... Have I snubbed anyone? or Is there someone that should be removed? Remember its the top 5 guys on O and D that you would not move off the team. I guess you can tell I’m getting annoyed at that the fact that there aren’t any new topics being posted on the site so I’m creating my own…lol

Ok so everyone agrees and the offense needs some fine tuning and the defense needs to be blown up..soooo who are the 5 guys on O and D than you would keep on the team .. (I know finding 5 guys on D is tough) ..but lets see if we can get to a consensus..I’ll start here are my guys on O and D:

Offense (5 guys pretty easy … I’m hoping)

1.Cutler
2. Clady
3. Royal
4. BMarsh
5.Scheffler

Now the defense

1. Champ Bailey
2. Dj Williams
3. Woodyard
4. Barrett
5. Dumervil (I’m not sure whether DOOM can thrive in the 3-4 but he is still our most effective pass rusher so he gets the nod at 5. )

Ok guys let me know you’re thoughs … Have I snubbed anyone? or Is there someone that should be removed?

Remember its the top 5 guys on O and D that you would not move off the team.

]]> By: Richard http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16016 Richard Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:33:10 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16016 Jordan C Maualuga is an inside guy. If the staff thinks we need a Lolb we could do better with someone like Clint Sintim or converting Larry English from DE. My problem with DJ in the middle is that in a 3-4 he would be required to take on a lot of blocks to stuff the run, and that would not be a good use of his considerable speed. Larson's liability in the middle would be pass coverage and if that is what you are alluding to with "range" I agree with you. Alas, we are all trying to think about rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic, but there doesn't seem to be a simple, obvious fix for our D problems. Jordan C Maualuga is an inside guy. If the staff thinks we need a Lolb we could do better with someone like Clint Sintim or converting Larry English from DE. My problem with DJ in the middle is that in a 3-4 he would be required to take on a lot of blocks to stuff the run, and that would not be a good use of his considerable speed. Larson’s liability in the middle would be pass coverage and if that is what you are alluding to with “range” I agree with you. Alas, we are all trying to think about rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic, but there doesn’t seem to be a simple, obvious fix for our D problems.

]]> By: Jordan C http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16015 Jordan C Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:01:07 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16015 Richard - I think you're right about needing at least 5 new starters. The front three all have to be new. I thought for a while that we had some potential 3-4 DEs on the team, but now I don't think so. From what I've read about 3-4 ILBs, they can be smaller, but have to be good tacklers and drop back into coverage. DJW should be really good at it and I would argue that Larson actually doesn't have the range, but Woodyard does and is also a great tackler. I'm also hoping that either Doom or Moss will have the skills to be the ROLB. I wouldn't count on both, but maybe one of them. I was also pondering this idea - if the Broncos do end up drafting Maualuga, they would move him to LOLB. This position may require the widest skill set of the LBs. He can rush the passer, he and stop the run with amazing tackling, and he's athletic enough to cover tight ends, maybe. According to a Rocky Mountain News article, the LOLB is usually really big, too. Not sure, but this might make sense. Richard –

I think you’re right about needing at least 5 new starters. The front three all have to be new. I thought for a while that we had some potential 3-4 DEs on the team, but now I don’t think so.

From what I’ve read about 3-4 ILBs, they can be smaller, but have to be good tacklers and drop back into coverage. DJW should be really good at it and I would argue that Larson actually doesn’t have the range, but Woodyard does and is also a great tackler.

I’m also hoping that either Doom or Moss will have the skills to be the ROLB. I wouldn’t count on both, but maybe one of them.

I was also pondering this idea – if the Broncos do end up drafting Maualuga, they would move him to LOLB. This position may require the widest skill set of the LBs. He can rush the passer, he and stop the run with amazing tackling, and he’s athletic enough to cover tight ends, maybe. According to a Rocky Mountain News article, the LOLB is usually really big, too.

Not sure, but this might make sense.

]]> By: Socal Den Fan http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16014 Socal Den Fan Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:49:07 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16014 I agree richard we need to completely rebuild the D I just hope we do it the right way and build with youth rather than high priced FA.We need to get players that fit the system and who can play as a team. I agree richard we need to completely rebuild the D I just hope we do it the right way and build with youth rather than high priced FA.We need to get players that fit the system and who can play as a team.

]]> By: Richard http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16013 Richard Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:16 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16013 dee Reloading is what is needed for the Offense. A shiny new running back, a young guard to groom for depth, a tight end to replace Nate Jackson(hopefully), and a mid round wide reciever to replace D. Jackson. A complete rebuild is required on Defense. We will need at least 5 new starters; 2 NTs one to start and a backup to spell the starter,2 starting and 1 backup DEs(I'm hopeful that Carlton Powell is a player but who really knows?) at least one inside linebacker( and I've not heard any arguments to convince me DJ Williams can play either inside or outside in a 3-4), 2 maybe 3 safeties depending on what we get from J Barrett. Free agency and the draft will be interesting for us fans, and hopfully productive. Moving some of our current players to new positions is going to be painful in some circumstances, and pleasantly surprising in others. Pardon my skeptisism, but J Moss and Doom aren't going to make it as 3-4 outside linebackers. Spot duty or situational subs at BEST. I fully expect Spenser Larson to be a pleasant surprise as an inside LB. He has the size, the instincts and toughness to be one. W. Woodyard is a player, but where? Too small for LB, but he did start out at safety at UK, maybe he can Lynch a few running backs from the SS position. dee Reloading is what is needed for the Offense. A shiny new running back, a young guard to groom for depth, a tight end to replace Nate Jackson(hopefully), and a mid round wide reciever to replace D. Jackson.

A complete rebuild is required on Defense. We will need at least 5 new starters; 2 NTs one to start and a backup to spell the starter,2 starting and 1 backup DEs(I’m hopeful that Carlton Powell is a player but who really knows?) at least one inside linebacker( and I’ve not heard any arguments to convince me DJ Williams can play either inside or outside in a 3-4), 2 maybe 3 safeties depending on what we get from J Barrett.

Free agency and the draft will be interesting for us fans, and hopfully productive. Moving some of our current players to new positions is going to be painful in some circumstances, and pleasantly surprising in others. Pardon my skeptisism, but J Moss and Doom aren’t going to make it as 3-4 outside linebackers. Spot duty or situational subs at BEST. I fully expect Spenser Larson to be a pleasant surprise as an inside LB. He has the size, the instincts and toughness to be one. W. Woodyard is a player, but where? Too small for LB, but he did start out at safety at UK, maybe he can Lynch a few running backs from the SS position.

]]> By: David Kircus Made My Tuna Melt Sub http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16011 David Kircus Made My Tuna Melt Sub Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:34:19 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16011 I highly doubt McD would gut the offense. I highly doubt McD would gut the offense.

]]> By: jchase8410 http://broncotalk.net/2009/01/5700/broncos-buzz/the-real-mccoy/comment-page-1/#comment-16010 jchase8410 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:15:03 +0000 http://broncotalk.net/?p=5700#comment-16010 I guess, but it's kind of like reloading a cannon with forks...the defense has 3 good players out of 20ish. There is no way we can tweak the defense and make a difference. The good news is this, of they r ebuild the defense over the next few years, the offense is already set. They only have to make a moderate improvement as far as defense is concerned, and we should be cheering in the playoffs next year. As Arizona has showed, once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Add a pass rush, the Broncos will do big things. These guys are all about winning, so I trust they will so whatever it takes to male this team competative next year. I guess, but it’s kind of like reloading a cannon with forks…the defense has 3 good players out of 20ish. There is no way we can tweak the defense and make a difference. The good news is this, of they r ebuild the defense over the next few years, the offense is already set. They only have to make a moderate improvement as far as defense is concerned, and we should be cheering in the playoffs next year. As Arizona has showed, once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Add a pass rush, the Broncos will do big things. These guys are all about winning, so I trust they will so whatever it takes to male this team competative next year.

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