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Published on 10/24/2008 at Fri Oct 24 12:51.
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Stokley

The Bailey brothers and Patrick Ramsey aren’t the only Broncos dealing with injuries. Luckily, the Broncos look to use the bye week to get some of their other injured players back.

We already reported that Ryan Torain says he’s 100% and ready to go — expect his first NFL career action to take place next Sunday against Miami. Meanwhile, Jay Cutler doesn’t expect to suffer any long term effects from his finger injury. Thank your lucky stars there – that would have been a deal breaker.

According to the Denver Post, wide receiver Brandon Stokley is hopeful he’ll be ready for Miami. Stokley suffered a concussion in the Broncos’ loss to the Jaguars in Week 6 and missed the subsequent game in New England.

“If there’s no symptoms I’ll keep increasing it and hopefully be ready to go next week,” Stokley said.

Meanwhile, tight end Tony Scheffler and running back Selvin Young have both missed two weeks with groin injuries. They’re working to get healthy, but there’s no word yet on their return. The Post also reports that running back Michael Pittman suffered a stinger and will see a neurosurgeon as a precautionary measure. Pittman also suffered bruised ribs, which held him out of practice Wednesday, but says neither injury should keep him off the field.

A nice bit of R and R should help our Broncos on the mend. Maybe it’s just me, but I think the fans could use a break for a weekend, too…

  • thomas

    Tony, Selvin, and Brandon are very important pieces to this offense. Whether they can stay healthy or not will be the deciding factor on whether this team makes it into the promised land or not.

  • kerry

    those three are not the deciding factor if we make it to the promised land. first off Selvin Young is about out of a job with Torain coming back and Pittman emerging as a feature back. our DEFENSE is gonna be the deciding factor of this season. we had both Brandons, and Scheffler against the Chiefs and scored a whole 19 points. while our defense gave up over 30. yeah our defense is the deciding factor. and with Shanahan at the helm our defense will fail miserably this year. what am i saying, since the Raiders game they already have.

  • robtink242

    man Kerry shut up. Shanny not to blame. yeh you probaly wanna be the titans, eagles and chargers WHO HAVE NO RINGS. nolan should be a great pick up at DC. he will impliment a proper 3-4.

  • robtink242

    We’ll be Drafting a FS, NT, MLB, CB and TE cause tony likes being sidelined.

  • http://denverbroncosnewsbyjon.blogspot.com Jon

    Hey Klye, what ever happened to the Player Bios??
    I liked them, are they just for the off-season, or what?

  • kerry

    no im not gonna shut up. im speaking the truth. ive been a Broncos fan for 26 years so im gonna say what i wanna say. and yes Shanny is to blame for the bad defense. quit living in the past when we won the rings. those days are over. do i really need to name the reasons why Shanahan is to blame for the defensive woes?? lets see:

    he drafted Jarvis Moss and Passed on safety Michael Griffin who had 5 pics in his rookie year and already has four pics this year. he signed an injury prone Boss Bailey. (we know how that turned out) he traded for Dre (TOAST) Bly. he signed Manuel and McCree who couldnt cover an old lady in a wheelchair. so lets see…who do you blame for all of this?? there is no GM accept Shanahan. so there is nobody else to blame for this atrocious defense but Shanahan. and what does Mike Nolean have to do with anything?? last time i checked he isnt a memeber of the Broncos and im sure you dont have a crystal ball that tells you he will be signed in the offseason. so this talk of Mike Nolan is completely irrelavant.

  • Quicksilver

    Kerry -CP-, it has been clear as of this year that the crappy draft pick ups of the recent past had more to do with the guy we let go then the one that stayed. and only now have you been able to pull this crap out about Bailey, so the guy went down, plenty of guys have been picked up out of injury prone carriers and been fine. and in my opinion M&M have done pretty good, in the Jacksonville game they were beasts. and the same can be said for Bly, its not his fault that he has champ on the other side so QB’s actually go after Bly. watch now that Bly is the number one for a time, paymah or williams will get attacked.

    But -CP-, you blame all this bad on Shanny, and yet you neglect to see the obvious good he has given us THIS YEAR, the two rookie of the year candidates i keep hearing are Royal and Clady, both Broncos, both contributing to one of the most dynamic offences in the NFL, even in our woes right now we can score with the best of them. some of the things we have come up against lately in our low scores have clearly been immaturity issues with our QB, but he will get there, he just needs time.

    The last thing i want to say, is i don’t give two S#$&S how long you have been a Broncos fan, do you think all the rest of us have only been cheering for them for last six weeks? I am so sick of hearing about how long some moron has been a fan and how i should listen to his dribble simply based on that. give me a break, -CP-!

    Edited for violation of BroncoTalk’s comments policy – no direct attacks on other commenters.

  • Quicksilver

    Robtink what you talkin bout with nolan?

  • kerry

    Quicksilver-

    see thats real convenient that you blame sundquist for the draft picks in the past now that he is gone. Shanahan drafts great offensive players but drafts terrible defensive players. not one pick from this year is starting on defense. Williams cant even beat out Paymah and Barrett cant even make it off the practice squad. yeah real good picks there. Shanahan is an even bigger genius when we have defensive problems and he signs Chad Jackson. HAHAHAHA. yeah another great move by Shanahan. and here is something else about Boss Bailey. he had many injury problems in Detroit. never played an entire 16 games in one season. how are those Manuel and McCree signings working 0ut by the way?? whats your excuse for that?? and thats ALL Shanahan. the Dewayne Robertson trade was all Shanahan. does he have a single sack yet?? no didnt think so. the only good offseason signing Shanahan has is Casey Wiegmann. yeah Shanahan is great on offense and completely clueless on how to build a defense. and tell me when was the last time an offensive linemen won rookie of the year? oh yeah thats right. NEVER. yeah i give credit for Shanahan’s offensive ability to build a team. but he has no defensive ability to build a team. 3 D-Coordinators in 3 years?? yeah whos fault is that?? yeah that is Shanahan’s. so go ahead and attack me all you want. it takes a real tough guy to attack someone from the safety of their computer. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. now enthral me with your excuses as to why our defensive woes arent Shanahan’s fault.

  • Quicksilver

    im confused, did you actually debut anything i said, other than the sundquist thing. i didn’t think so.

  • Quicksilver

    and BTW, all the NFL has seen the improvement in picks sans sundquist. not just me. I know its easy for you to spout drivel from the comfort of your RV but come on, at least make an actual point if your going to put that many words on a page.

  • kerry

    ive made my point. you just like the rest of Shanahan’s lapdog press think he is so great when in fact since Elway had left he has done nothing but win one playoff game. here is a debate (not debut by the way genius) M&M have done so well that we have the last ranked pass defense in the NFL. debate that one. debate how our secondary is so bad that he have one INT in the secondary the whole season. give me your excuse for why not one single of our defensive draft picks are starting? id sure like to know this improvement of picks you are talking about? Shanahan making good OFFENSIVE picks are nothing new. just look at Cutler, Marshall, Kuper, Clady, Royal. how is that an improvement when Shanahan is known for drafting good offensive players? where is this improvement on DEFENSE?? there hasnt been a single improvement on defense since Sundquist left. ill debate you when you have something legitament to debate about.

  • Quicksilver

    I meant rebut, not debate, and with the atrocious number of spelling and grammar errors you make in a post i hardly think you should be the one doing any correcting. as for D Draft picks that we are starting im am not sure who you would like to have start for us, our fourth round corner back, ask around and see how many NFL teams will start a fourth round anything let alone a CB, or maybe you would like to start our 5th round DL, Powell, oh wait, he has started, and OMG he even has some sacks!! wow, looks like he could actually be alright, or maybe the guy you want to start is Barrett our 7th round safety, yeah lets see if he can red shirt it to stardom, a team cannot focus on both sides of the ball every draft, so this year we went offense, next year we do what we need to fill some more holes. besides, the problem with guys like you is you cant see the forest for the trees, we have the guys to be a good defense, they are out there. the problem is with the DC, just like rob was talking about, and of course you are not going to have a mastermind coach who is superb on both sides of the ball, all of these guys need an assistant or two that can balance out the areas they don’t focus on, the biggest problem in Denver is that we haven’t found that guy on D, that’s why i was so interested in what rob was talking about with Nolan, that guy is a D stud, if we could get a guy like that maybe he could help us out, at this point it is all about scheme and how you affect it. but YOU cant see that, you still want to blame the draft, and the HC, and lets all just cry about how long you have been a fan without a SB team, boo hoo hoo, dude pay attention to the game, and if you want to complain about a head coach, go be a bolts fan, they at least have something to complain about.

  • kerry

    oh my god -CP-! Powell hasnt started or played in a single game this entire year! he ruptured his achilles before preseason even started! so he doesnt have one single tackle, let alone a single sack!! he has been on the PUP list for weeks now. which means -Physically unable to perform. hence he hasnt played AT ALL!! HAHAHAHAHAHA. and you say i dont know what im talking about. yeah and you say the problem is with the DC. yeah and who is the one who appointed the DC to his position?? huh? any guesses? oh thats right. Shanahan did!! just like Shanahan is the one who fired Coyer. the same Coyer who’s SCHEME worked with the players we had. but Shanahan fired him despite having a top defense and hired Jim Bates. who is the one who hired Bates? Shanahan. do we see a pattern emerging here? yes i know its all of sundquists fault, thats you and everybody else’s excuse. Shanahan brings in Bates and then traded Gerard Warren, who was our best DT. that was Shanahan too. and you say its about the scheme and how you affect it. they change the scheme from the 4-3 to the 3-4 and the defense is worse!! its got nothing to do with the scheme. its the lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball. the thing you absolutely cannot see is that it doesnt matter what defensive scheme you run, if you dont have the talent then the scheme will fail. and can you guess why we dont have the talent on the defensive side of the ball?? yeah thats right, because doesnt know how to evaluate and draft defensive talent. Paymah, Foxworth, Moss, Crowder have all been busts and non factors. i can go back further. Jeff Shoate, Jeremy Lasueur, Terry Pierce, Bryant Mcneil, Ben Claxton, Clint Mitchell, Dorsett Davis, Willie Middlebrooks. ALL BUSTS DRAFTED BY SHANAHAN. are the aforementioned players even still in the league?? no i dont think so. but let me guess, it was all somebody else’s fault why all of these players were busts. not Shanahan though right? he is infalible im i correct? now counter all my points in this post with your in depth knowledge of how to assign blame to everyone else but the man in charge.

  • AKscott

    Jeeeeezuusssss.. so tired of reading all the negativity regarding our FIRST PLACE team.. we have to be the only 1st place team who’s fans are consistently calling for the HC’s head. You want shanny fired, fine.. B!tch about it in the offseason. It would be foolish to fire him right now a game and a half up on the chargers, and its just as foolish to call for his head, and complain about it week in and week out. Like it or not shanny is the HC, so why not actually ROOT for him to suceed? I actually think there are a decent amount of bronco fans that WANT to see this team lose, just to say i told you so. Its sickening.. yes obviously there are major D issues, but take a step back and look at the league.. we are safely in 1st place, in a bad division, have a great young offense, with the toughest part of our schedule behind us. What exactly would firing shanny right now accomplish? — about as much as complaining about it non-stop.. NOTHING.
    Look at the Colts a few years back- most of the season couldnt stop ANYONE on D, Bob Sanders gets healthy, the D gels together and they go win the SB.. Look at the Giants last year.. who wouldve thought that?? All you need to do is get in the playoffs and anything can happen, and as of today we are in great position to get in.. chill out and enjoy it man..

    And Spencer Larsen.. Spencer Larsen has started a few games- so there’s the answer to your rookie defensive pick starting question.. yes as a fullback- but he’s on the field, and making plays on ST’s , and your exact words were — “give me your excuse for why not one single of our defensive draft picks are starting?”

    Go Broncos!!

  • AKscott

    Lets look at the past few years

    Jack Williams – nickel back right now- we’ll see whats he’s got
    Carlton Powell- PUP.. probably shanny’s fault
    Spencer Larsen – started at FB and ST standout
    Josh Barrett- looks promising
    – so 2008′s class considering none were drafted higher than 4th round seems promising

    Moss- hurt rookie season, has had a hard time seeing playing time
    crowder- ugh
    Thomas- Starter
    – 2007′s couldve turned out better of course, but its too early to call it a bad draft- give moss time, this is basically his rookie year

    Elvis Dumervil- what a find in the 4th
    -2006′s only D player.. not bad at all

    Darrent Williams- was gonna be REAL good- he had “it”.. probably somehow shanny’s fault too
    Karl Paymah- our starter this week.. nothing special at all
    Domonique Foxworth- solid when here- cant even complain about this pick.. I’d do it all over again

    so that goes back 4 years of defensive drafts, and besides last year you cant be upset about any of the defensive groups we’ve had really.. and to call moss a bust right now just isnt fair to him. Obviously he needs to step it up though. Whats so bad about these?? We pick a scheme and stick to it and i think we’ll be on the way.. as many people have echoed, we have the talent on D- its putting it together, and filling the holes in the offseason
    The sky isnt falling folks, there’s plenty of time to turn the D around this year.. have faith

  • kerry

    yeah the only reason Larsen is staring is because he agreed to go on offense due to past experience playing FB. he wouldnt even see the field as a starter if he didnt go to offense. so your argument of a rookie defensive player starting is irrelavant. yeah Barrett is so promising that he is still on the practice squad. if he showed any bit of promise at all he would at least be on special teams.

  • AKscott

    Its not my argument.. its yours.. you asked a question, in which the answer was spencer larsen. I like how you try to minimalize his contributions to this team, just to prove a point. I for one love what he has brought to the table to date. He consistantly makes plays on ST’s, was willing to play fullback, and i would bet if he started at MLB would bring the intensity that this team needs. The argument isnt irrelevant, he’s a STARTER, a starter for a first place team , clearly a team first kind of guy, and shanny drafted him. Whats so wrong with that??

  • AKscott

    Look, i understand the complaints, as i think do the vast vast majority of fans.. i hate the vanilla, predictable blitzes we use, i hate the fact that our LB’s consistantly overpursue and then get pushed out of the play, i hate that our safeties cant wrap up anyone.
    The difference is i think that these are adjustments that can be made midseason, now.. obviously we are lacking top end talent in some areas, but there is no reason we should be this bad on defense if you look at our talent.. we DO have the talent here to turn it around. Lets look forward to the rest of the season and enjoy being 1st place in the AFC West

  • kerry

    who said anything was wrong with that? i never said there was anything with Larsen playing FB. im saying that Shanahan isnt good at evaluating DEFENSIVE talent and if he was, he already would have Larsen on the field as a MLB because of the very reasons you mentioned. his intensity. Larson does make plenty of ST plays. no argument there. so why doesnt Shanahan put that intensity and fire on the defensive side of the ball?? especially when Peyton Hillis was already playing well at FB?? it all goes back to Shanahan and his lack of ability to build a good defense or to recognize a defensive player that can improve the defense. he has a good young and intense MLB in Larsen and uses him as a FB.

  • AKscott

    I think the talent (largely) isnt the problem, its execution. Shanny and company saw enough in a defensive player from this years rookie class -Larsen- to draft him, and its worked out pretty well. It goes back to your point of no defensive rookie starting, and spencer obviously has. Also, i wouldnt be surprised if he got a start in the upcoming weeks at MLB, maybe this coming up week.. i dont think much has come out as far as how they are gonna replace boss.. maybe slide webster over and have spencer plug the middle?? I’d like to give it a shot.. Just because he hasnt started yet (same can be said for Barrett) doesnt mean he isnt a talented defensive player.. thats like saying b/c Cutler wasnt starting initially his rookie season he wasnt talented. Sometimes you ease your youngsters in there. Spencer is a good player and a good pick by shanny

  • AKscott

    whats funny is that shanny in the draft did the right thing. He got Jay a tackle to protect his blindside in round 1, round 2 got royal for his KR/PR skills, and also because at the time B-Marsh had many questions floating around him, and no 3rd round pick.. IMO he solidified the offensive side of the ball and it was the right choice. Had he the glaring O-line issues and Jay been hurt this year b/c of awful line play people wouldve never let it down. Now somehow he’s a bad judge of talent b/c his rookies (all 4th round picks or later) havent started on defense by week 7.
    These are the same people that complain that we havent won a superbowl in 10 years.. in that same time span our division rivals have all at one point been either THE worst team in the league, or GD close to it.. yet we go 6-10 and shanny needs to be shown the door.. just unbelievable.. be happy with what we got, which is a consistantly competetive team with a lot of young studs and a bright future.. thank you shanny!

  • AKscott

    hell.. we were 7-9, not 6-10.. always count that viking game as a loss for some reason..
    and i meant to say had he IGNORED the glaring o-line issues

  • kerry

    yeah i know that the Clady pick was a good one. i screamed for an OT in the first round. most of my draft posts on this site declared that i wanted Clady as the first round pick. Clady is exactly who i was hoping for when most hoped for Rashard Mendenhall or Johnathan Stewart. although i wouldnt have cried if we had drafted Jonathan Stewart. but even the thing that bothered me the most about our defensive draft was the fact Shanahan picked Carlton Powell. he is barely 300 pounds and Red Bryant and Frank Okam (both are over 340) were available. now we run the 3-4 and those big guys would have been very valuable at this point. and the thing is, Larsen isnt gonna get a start at MLB this year. thats obvious. otherwise when we were getting blown out in New England, Shanahan would have given him some playing time.

  • AKscott

    you may be right about larsen’s PT this year, but i really hope not. I think Winborn showed he doesnt deserve to start with that moronic face mask penalty and the laughing towards the end of the game..
    We dont even know what powell can do yet, so im not gonna wish we had gotten someone else, regardless of his weight. Doom is undersized and has a motor that doesnt quit, and sam adams was ginormous and worthless.. its not always about size. But regardless he (powell) was a 5th rounder.. at that point you cant really get mad about much b/c the expectations are fairly low. So to say shanny has done a bad job at drafting D talent, and then at the same time say what made you most mad about our defensive draft was a 5th rounder, seems to be a bit of a contradiction. At this point i would rather bring in (as you stated in a previous post) someone like Dre Moore who has very avg size by DT standards but strong as an ox. Then in the offseason, mostly through the draft really focus on solidifying the D side of the ball.
    As i see it, when sundquist was let go, Shanny was bearing full responsibility for the team. Right now he is halfway done w the necessary changes. The O needed to be taken care of first because Jay is our present and our future, he did that, and i expect next year to see some really good defensive picks made that contribute quickly just as Clady and Eddie have done this year.

    Go Broncos

  • kerry

    yeah and Dre Moore is on Tampa’s practice squad and he isnt brought in. absolutely rediculous.