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	<title>Comments on: Cutler and Shanahan Voice Support for Marshall as Suspension Rumors Loom</title>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An athlete in control and sober goes out to dinner with his girl friend and go&#039;s home.  Puts on a game, movie etc.  A person out of control gets DUI&#039;s (being caught 1 time, gettin away with it many times) Its all alcohol or drug related.  The fights with family were all while intoxicated. Like my reference to COPs.  Have you ever seen police at a domestic disturbance where the parties were not drunk?

We fans should not enable him. People shoud stop enabling him. To say its his word against hers is ridiculas because the police did get called which means its at best a big brohaha.  When&#039;s the last time you had cops at your house because of a domestic dispute? He needs to hit rock bottom to realize he is not superman.  He needs to have the privladge taken away.  He needs to NOT be able to afford a lawyer and feel the feeling of really being in Deep do do.  He hasn&#039;t got that feeling yet. Let him go...sink to the bottom and then its up to him to change his behavior. He&#039;s still young enough to change but he has to feel humility

Google Warren Wells WR Oakland Raiders 1980s for a peek at what maybe in store for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An athlete in control and sober goes out to dinner with his girl friend and go&#8217;s home.  Puts on a game, movie etc.  A person out of control gets DUI&#8217;s (being caught 1 time, gettin away with it many times) Its all alcohol or drug related.  The fights with family were all while intoxicated. Like my reference to COPs.  Have you ever seen police at a domestic disturbance where the parties were not drunk?</p>
<p>We fans should not enable him. People shoud stop enabling him. To say its his word against hers is ridiculas because the police did get called which means its at best a big brohaha.  When&#8217;s the last time you had cops at your house because of a domestic dispute? He needs to hit rock bottom to realize he is not superman.  He needs to have the privladge taken away.  He needs to NOT be able to afford a lawyer and feel the feeling of really being in Deep do do.  He hasn&#8217;t got that feeling yet. Let him go&#8230;sink to the bottom and then its up to him to change his behavior. He&#8217;s still young enough to change but he has to feel humility</p>
<p>Google Warren Wells WR Oakland Raiders 1980s for a peek at what maybe in store for him.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy stuckinsd, hardly hear from you anymore.  :)

We pretty much agree on a lot of points, except I think it is a big deal and it&#039;s costing Broncos fans.  He also had the altercation with his dad where he allegedly fired a gun.

Pacman wasn&#039;t charged or arrested all that much.  He was just &quot;involved&quot; with police about 10 times.  It was the sum of all the problems that got him suspended for a year.  Until Marshall truly shapes up, it&#039;s the same road I feel he&#039;s heading down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy stuckinsd, hardly hear from you anymore.  :)</p>
<p>We pretty much agree on a lot of points, except I think it is a big deal and it&#8217;s costing Broncos fans.  He also had the altercation with his dad where he allegedly fired a gun.</p>
<p>Pacman wasn&#8217;t charged or arrested all that much.  He was just &#8220;involved&#8221; with police about 10 times.  It was the sum of all the problems that got him suspended for a year.  Until Marshall truly shapes up, it&#8217;s the same road I feel he&#8217;s heading down.</p>
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		<title>By: andy b.</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>broncfanstuckinsd-- 
I think the concern is, like Rick said, the stuff piling up; if you&#039;re in control you don&#039;t find yourself passing two people on the right shoulder AFTER your name is plastered all over the media for a DUI, which came AFTER a string of DV problems.  Again, it smacks of out-of-control addict behavior, in which case it probably is best for Broncos fans if he DOES get slammed with a serious suspension; the bigger the consequences, the more likely he gets his stuff together right away and the Broncos get him back for real, not just for however long it takes for him to screw up again.
Rick, you&#039;re right that having that kind of money and time must make it a lot harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>broncfanstuckinsd&#8211;<br />
I think the concern is, like Rick said, the stuff piling up; if you&#8217;re in control you don&#8217;t find yourself passing two people on the right shoulder AFTER your name is plastered all over the media for a DUI, which came AFTER a string of DV problems.  Again, it smacks of out-of-control addict behavior, in which case it probably is best for Broncos fans if he DOES get slammed with a serious suspension; the bigger the consequences, the more likely he gets his stuff together right away and the Broncos get him back for real, not just for however long it takes for him to screw up again.<br />
Rick, you&#8217;re right that having that kind of money and time must make it a lot harder.</p>
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		<title>By: broncfanstuckinsd</title>
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		<dc:creator>broncfanstuckinsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am tired of all this. But correct me if I am wrong. On the DV isnt it a he said/she said. And wasnt he not arrested? Sure the DUI is a serious lack of judgement. The passing on the shoulder is stupid, but it does not deserve all the attention its getting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am tired of all this. But correct me if I am wrong. On the DV isnt it a he said/she said. And wasnt he not arrested? Sure the DUI is a serious lack of judgement. The passing on the shoulder is stupid, but it does not deserve all the attention its getting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Henson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Henson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick, if you&#039;ve seen my blog, I haven&#039;t been easy on him, but I&#039;m not hell bent on bringing down the man&#039;s career either. There&#039;s no place in society for domestic violence or even driving while intoxicated.

I also think that he should be suspended four or even five games- and not just for recent incidents. Give him some time to reevaluate those in his life and separate himself from college, he&#039;s not a kid and his actions have real consequences. To me it just seems as if he&#039;s screaming for a role model, someone to tell him all of that and be there to reinforce when he may feel like drifting. 

He&#039;s not making 10 or 20 million, I don&#039;t have his contract info in front of me, but he&#039;s still on his rookie contract meaning that Colbert, Stokley and maybe even Darrell Jackson are making more money than him this season. Eddie Royal probably will be too, when he signs his contract. So you&#039;re looking at a &quot;multi-thousandaire,&quot; who&#039;s facing a possible multiple game suspension. Could hurt him enough to keep him sane for awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick, if you&#8217;ve seen my blog, I haven&#8217;t been easy on him, but I&#8217;m not hell bent on bringing down the man&#8217;s career either. There&#8217;s no place in society for domestic violence or even driving while intoxicated.</p>
<p>I also think that he should be suspended four or even five games- and not just for recent incidents. Give him some time to reevaluate those in his life and separate himself from college, he&#8217;s not a kid and his actions have real consequences. To me it just seems as if he&#8217;s screaming for a role model, someone to tell him all of that and be there to reinforce when he may feel like drifting. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s not making 10 or 20 million, I don&#8217;t have his contract info in front of me, but he&#8217;s still on his rookie contract meaning that Colbert, Stokley and maybe even Darrell Jackson are making more money than him this season. Eddie Royal probably will be too, when he signs his contract. So you&#8217;re looking at a &#8220;multi-thousandaire,&#8221; who&#8217;s facing a possible multiple game suspension. Could hurt him enough to keep him sane for awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy some with addictive nature can be more suceptable to drugs and alchol especially if the have huge ego&#039;s, 10 or 20 million dollars and alot of freedom in the off season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy some with addictive nature can be more suceptable to drugs and alchol especially if the have huge ego&#8217;s, 10 or 20 million dollars and alot of freedom in the off season.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What concerns me is that Marshall is beginning to tally off-field incidents that DONT have to do with his ex-gf.  The altercation with his dad, the DUI, the latest traffic incident - he&#039;s getting into trouble other ways too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What concerns me is that Marshall is beginning to tally off-field incidents that DONT have to do with his ex-gf.  The altercation with his dad, the DUI, the latest traffic incident &#8211; he&#8217;s getting into trouble other ways too.</p>
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		<title>By: andy b.</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m concerned the track record smacks of addict behavior.  Which means it doesn&#039;t change, no matter what, unless the guy hits bottom.  Hopefully I&#039;m dead wrong about that and it&#039;s just been some bad luck and some immature behavior, some anger issues, etc.  If he is dealing with addict issues (and athletes can be prone to this like anybody else) than I doubt this is anywhere near the bottom.  But again, I&#039;d be very, very happy to be totally wrong about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m concerned the track record smacks of addict behavior.  Which means it doesn&#8217;t change, no matter what, unless the guy hits bottom.  Hopefully I&#8217;m dead wrong about that and it&#8217;s just been some bad luck and some immature behavior, some anger issues, etc.  If he is dealing with addict issues (and athletes can be prone to this like anybody else) than I doubt this is anywhere near the bottom.  But again, I&#8217;d be very, very happy to be totally wrong about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea btw Ian, domestic violence isn&#039;t like picking yoose.  Come on don&#039;t minimize these knuckle heads actions....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea btw Ian, domestic violence isn&#8217;t like picking yoose.  Come on don&#8217;t minimize these knuckle heads actions&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else can Shannie do but stand by his troubled receiver. Until another Javon Walker like mishap. &quot;Bad Boys bad boys watcha gonna do&quot;  COPS on lacation in Denver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else can Shannie do but stand by his troubled receiver. Until another Javon Walker like mishap. &#8220;Bad Boys bad boys watcha gonna do&#8221;  COPS on lacation in Denver</p>
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